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On 2016-08-09 22:08:11Show this Author Only
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There a little trick that people forget or just don't think about: "retreat".
When your team is losing, just "retreat", you'll get back your char even the dead one.
Rethink yur strategy and then retry. That way you'll have nearly all or all yur chars full life ready for the big battle.
Even if it's a strong opponent, you'll have 3 times more firepower than him.
So yes, it's difficult to fail.
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On 2016-08-09 22:10:27Show this Author Only
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Higher level survival pretty much requires 3 good teams.

I typically end up easily getting to map 2 + a couple stages with one alt healer team.

Then make it to last stage with my second team being pretty beat up, so you just try and do as much damage as you can to last stage by retreating early a couple times if needed.

Then you just mop up with your last team.
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On 2016-08-09 22:21:39Show this Author Only
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Alot of people posting here havent got high levels yet.

Yes its nearly impossible to beat the 12th stage when youre going against one of the top players on the server who is 3 levels higher than you using an Iruka/clone team where all 12 of your ninjas cant even get pass the shields/clones.
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On 2016-08-10 04:34:35Show this Author Only
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  • FG3000 On 2016-08-09 22:21:39
  • Alot of people posting here havent got high levels yet.

    Yes its nearly impossible to beat the 12th stage when youre going against one of the top players on the server who is 3 levels higher than you using an Iruka/clone team where all 12 of your ninjas cant even get pass the shields/clones.
THIS

is what i'm saying.

Lvl55 char that has all the bonus skills, passives, etc etc, 4* IRUKA (yes, 4 star) and 5k pwr difference...even 50 ninjas, summons and formations wouldn't save you from that.
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On 2016-08-10 04:47:00Show this Author Only
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I'm 12th on the power ranking on my server. Generally my 12th node is higher power and usually level than me - meaning top 11 ^^''. I clear the trial every day and about 85% of the time I have not a single ninja die. It's all about the formation and the RNG + Retreat spam until you get a favorable outcome. It's only worth killing off a squad if you're ABSOLUTELY SURE you cannot win and you want to sacrifice some pawns (meaning not your main 4) to kill off 1 or weaken the team overall.

A good tip is to keep ninjas like 9 tails chakra naruto, Karin, Shizune and Kankuro on your sides for the poison/ignition spread. It's a great way to weaken strong teams if the going gets dire.
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On 2016-08-10 07:46:35Show this Author Only
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  • RiusSensei On 2016-08-10 04:47:00
  • I'm 12th on the power ranking on my server. Generally my 12th node is higher power and usually level than me - meaning top 11 ^^''. I clear the trial every day and about 85% of the time I have not a single ninja die. It's all about the formation and the RNG + Retreat spam until you get a favorable outcome. It's only worth killing off a squad if you're ABSOLUTELY SURE you cannot win and you want to sacrifice some pawns (meaning not your main 4) to kill off 1 or weaken the team overall.

    A good tip is to keep ninjas like 9 tails chakra naruto, Karin, Shizune and Kankuro on your sides for the poison/ignition spread. It's a great way to weaken strong teams if the going gets dire.
My final boss in Survival Trial has been a fire main every single day since the server started and I can tell you I had no trouble until today. Fire counters Earth so * it isn't even funny but I was still able to get around it with some cheap tactics, but today I'm ranked 23 in power and my opponent is ranked 8 and is you guessed it another fire, I can beat him but at this point I'm bored with it, and the fights take more effort than the reward is worth. This post was last edited by Tezu at 2016-8-10 08:05
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On 2016-08-10 17:48:54Show this Author Only
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  • RiusSensei On 2016-08-10 04:47:00
  • I'm 12th on the power ranking on my server. Generally my 12th node is higher power and usually level than me - meaning top 11 ^^''. I clear the trial every day and about 85% of the time I have not a single ninja die. It's all about the formation and the RNG + Retreat spam until you get a favorable outcome. It's only worth killing off a squad if you're ABSOLUTELY SURE you cannot win and you want to sacrifice some pawns (meaning not your main 4) to kill off 1 or weaken the team overall.

    A good tip is to keep ninjas like 9 tails chakra naruto, Karin, Shizune and Kankuro on your sides for the poison/ignition spread. It's a great way to weaken strong teams if the going gets dire.
It's easy to give advices when you're among top10 (spenders) and you have a wide range of toons at your disposal. Also, top 10 players are, 99.9% 3+ levels ahead of "normal" ones. So you cannot compare yourself with 95% of the playerbase that's not even in theory close to your power.

Today for example, i'm 53, facing lvl 56 op lihgtning meta team on the last node. The guy has all talents unlocked, lvl 5 gems, full purple gear, purple pets, last but not the least, 3.7k pwr more than me...

He is doing 500dmg with basic attacks to me. I am doin 44dmg with basic attacks to him. If i get the chance not being floor wiped on the first turn, that is.

It will probably be "fair" on hihger levels when the gap won't be that big. But for now, it's too imbalanced. This post was last edited by kejmo at 2016-8-10 17:59
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On 2016-08-12 04:35:21Show this Author Only
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I'm on the second to last round of it. Three ninjas left because the last team killed Kakashi xD. And this team is lvl. 57.
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On 2016-08-13 04:44:38Show this Author Only
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so, I'd appreciate if you can suggest 2 long lasting team with some good ninjas. A team that can tank as well as deal dmg while not being seriously hurt till atleast stage 9.
Been going after Kimimaro and kidomaru. Kimimaru gets even better buff at *3 and kidomaru get auto-shield each round. Should work well with kabuto's self inflicted injury.
Some other good suggestion?
Also, if you dont clear level 12, is it certain you wont be able to sweep?
I'm not a spender, so if you can suggest a team with easy to get ninja, I'd appreciate that. At level 57 right now.
Please don't suggest some hard to get ninja. I always have worst luck with seal/tendo treasure. Very rarely I do get any ninja there and even if I do, those I already have. Only good that that ever happened there is giving me kakashi before starting 7-day, enabling to get him to 4 star. After that. it's been temari, tenten, Lee (all of them I had already by then). Recently drew 10 tendo treasure atonce(been saving them for a while) and gues what, I got Normal asuma, and I already had him by then, so tada, 20 fragment :(
I'm sick and tired of this seal treasure thing. With fire main, wanted to build the bomb team, but that seems impossible at this moment. And this game becomes ruthless day by day. The later you start, more unfavourable is it for you.
Also, with fire main, which ninja's do you suggest to go after at shop. Please suggest for all category(group, ranked, survival, arena). Going after tobi now. Do you think Hidan and kakuzu is a good character to keep?
This post was last edited by ind***@gmail.com at 2016-8-13 04:47
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On 2016-08-21 21:39:07Show this Author Only
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Got lvl 65, 4k pwr stronger, +3 characters guy on which i spent all 12 toons without even breaking the guy's shield. Abnormal advantage from the last node guy whos main almost 1shots my toons (well, since they have cca 4.2k hp he needs 1 combo more) because he does about 4k dmg with his mistery.

Normal attaks vs. me are 700-1000 dmg. My attacks vs. him are 60-120 dmg. So what is the point ?

I really don't see the point in making the impossible last node. For what? Frustrating people or make them pay to succeed ?

I'm lvl 61 btw with +2 guys. Not nearly close to the power this guy has with 4lvls advantage. I mean, really.
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On 2016-08-21 22:00:05Show this Author Only
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yes the only people who think survivals difficulty isnt an issue are either the low ninjas who dont have to deal with the high p2w players blocking them, or the high p2w players who have the advantage so theres no reason for them to complain, if youre below level 30-40 or youre in the top 20 overall ninja on your server, then of course you dont see a problem

every single trial i do i get to the second to last fight in practice with my first team having no health taken, and i end up against a p2w team that kills that team, kills my second team, and then on the last fight its a p2w player 3 levels higher than me and i only have 1 team left, usually my main team and i can get maybe 1/4 of their health down before dying, thats reduced to 0 if im facing an earth main with that op ass double standard mystery shield standard combo.

the only way high level players can survive trial practice is if theyre in the top ninjas overall and/or p2w players f2p players have very small chance. its too the point that the extra paths that unlock at level 40+ are irrelevant to me because with the level gap keeping increasing theres not a chance ill be able to get to the point where ill be able to even try those paths, because you have to finish the trial practice each time you want to even open those new paths back up.
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On 2016-08-21 22:01:42Show this Author Only
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  • kejmo On 2016-08-21 21:39:07
  • Got lvl 65, 4k pwr stronger, +3 characters guy on which i spent all 12 toons without even breaking the guy's shield. Abnormal advantage from the last node guy whos main almost 1shots my toons (well, since they have cca 4.2k hp he needs 1 combo more) because he does about 4k dmg with his mistery.

    Normal attaks vs. me are 700-1000 dmg. My attacks vs. him are 60-120 dmg. So what is the point ?

    I really don't see the point in making the impossible last node. For what? Frustrating people or make them pay to succeed ?

    I'm lvl 61 btw with +2 guys. Not nearly close to the power this guy has with 4lvls advantage. I mean, really.
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Too many tears, from you. If you can not win, just throw it. I spent some hours developing a strategy for this guy. You just cry, but every top make an effort to obtain power.
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On 2016-08-21 22:03:09Show this Author Only
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  • Karito_S10 On 2016-08-21 22:01:42
  • http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/22k.1471787398.png

    http://ipic.su/img/img7/fs/taken.1471787417.png

    Too many tears, from you. If you can not win, just throw it. I spent some hours developing a strategy for this guy. You just cry, but every top make an effort to obtain power.
you have iruka, obviously youre a p2w player, so your advice for f2p players is to pay to have a chance, nice
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On 2016-08-21 22:22:20Show this Author Only
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  • Keife191 On 2016-08-21 22:03:09
  • you have iruka, obviously youre a p2w player, so your advice for f2p players is to pay to have a chance, nice
At lvl 100 do not be a difference who your team. Now gap and levels of government play a role. This game is not free. Those who want to get all completely free just a fool. Man on the screen top 1.

I advise you to use brains, iruka only one my paid ninja.
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On 2016-08-21 22:28:21Show this Author Only
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ummm level 100??? this isnt arena. were talking about survival trial practice, and the levels and ninja you have do make a serious difference

and regardless of it being a p2w game, they still have to make it enjoyable for f2p players or there wont be enough player base to keep the p2w players happy and theyll leave, which ends up losing the makers money.

for starters making all the events p2w is a good way to lose players, not everyone can be p2w, some of us have families to support or debts to pay, etc.

as a f2p player i dont expect to be the top players, but to not even have a chance at the basic daily events, thats when it gets to the point where i think why bother?
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On 2016-08-21 22:34:09Show this Author Only
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It wouldn't be a problem if the last team isn't in the "milestone" group, meanin, he is 65 (new stuff, new awakening etc etc) and i'm way, WAY lower with stats. I could, and i regularry do beat higher levels and finish the trial (yesterday finishing it against lvl64 dude with only 3/12 dead) but no chance against this.

4 lvls, new milestone...that makes it kinda impossible. The things will become way easier when we cap levels, for sure, but this creates unfair advantage.
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On 2016-08-21 22:42:26Show this Author Only
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I agree with you keife i hate being a 14000 ninja having to face 18000 ninjas with 1 or 2 teams left
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