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[ Bugs ] TEST of earth main's SHIELD + MINATO/HIRUZEN featuring iruka xD

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On 2016-12-10 17:26:53Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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sup all
sooooo I was curious how minato and hiruzen can affect shield makers so I have made some tests today, results are interesting:

1st test: Earth main, Iruka and Minato

resist of iruka without minato's buff

5825 => 2912 shield to all konoha ninjas in team, well it is +/- like that

after minato's buff 40% it should be 8155 => he should make 4077p shield on all konoha ninjas in team
result:

yep ! shield to all konoha ninjas is 4077 thanks to minato :victory:

2nd test: Earth main + Minato

earth main's resistance

he should make shield base on his resistance, but it is for 2 targets so it will be 50% for each = 3435
now add there minato's buff 40% = 9619 resistance => 4809
result:

:o huh ??? wtf ? first of all he has lower number than it should be and for second why is minato not boosting his resistance ???? animation clearly showed that he got resisst buff from minato before start of combat

ok lets try this passive on earth main =>

proc on earth main to make 2x shield
result:

so he should make 2x shield and what happened in reality ? instead of seeing 2x 3405 = 6810 shield on both targets we see 1923*2 = 3846 shield. ?????? his didnt get 2x standard attack (shield) only animation, but his nubmers were divided lets say by 2 and then he goes 2x ???? really ?
not to mention we have minato in team and his buff clearly not working on earth mains resistance, but it is working on iruka ???

another test with mystery which granting 2x attack for whole team

result:

earth main did properly 2x shield = 3298 (should be 3405) 2x = 6596 (that number 9896 -3298 coz shield was applied once more before mystery of earth main)
still no minato effect on shield

Would like to know your feedback on this and also explanation from moderators/ppl who are responsible testing chars why minato is not affecting earth main but ressistance buff is working on iruka,
thank you

Killua:P

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On 2016-12-10 19:09:09Show this Author Only
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Well, the Earth Main's skill says it applies based on his "own" resistance so could it be possible that minato's resistance buffs won't apply to the main's skill since it's not his own resistance but a boosted one from Minato? I see that Iruka's shield doesn't mention the part of it being based on his "own" resistance but just general resistance.

Maybe someone with Hiruzen (3rd Hokage) can test it and see if it's only Minato's resistance buff that isn't working for Earth Main's shield.


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On 2016-12-10 19:30:00Show this Author Only
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just tested Ao and also Mabui, both of them getting resistance buff from minato and their shield is bigger this way.

also I was asking about earth main's passive boulder jutsu, if that passive proc on main and he goes 2x. why his shield is divided again by 2, so at the end he apply same shield (on both targets) as if he went only once
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On 2016-12-10 19:34:43Show this Author Only
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  • Reignal On 2016-12-10 19:09:09
  • Well, the Earth Main's skill says it applies based on his "own" resistance so could it be possible that minato's resistance buffs won't apply to the main's skill since it's not his own resistance but a boosted one from Minato? I see that Iruka's shield doesn't mention the part of it being based on his "own" resistance but just general resistance.

    Maybe someone with Hiruzen (3rd Hokage) can test it and see if it's only Minato's resistance buff that isn't working for Earth Main's shield.


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and now I tested minaot with gaara, he has same description as earth main

and he gets shield increase when minato is with him, there is difference in numbers
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On 2016-12-19 05:21:47Show this Author Only
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ok I did another tests for hiruzen + minato + iruka in 1 team....only 1 resistance buff is working on iruka's shield boost. thats another bug in game....it should be from boosted from both 3rd and 4th hokage, not only 1.
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On 2016-12-19 05:48:19Show this Author Only
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another test with minato + hiruzen + kurenai
so according to description of her mystery she should give shield on 1 person based on her resistance....
on pictures you can see her resistance is 4318
she is in team with minato +40% resistance and hiruzen +40% resistanace.... she should give one
ninja shield of value = 8463


but result is 3022 !!!! just for info that number is from 4318 *1,4 / 2
(her resistance multiplied only by one bonus 40% resistance and divided by 2)
this gives absolutly no sense....
bug for not getting 2x buff and then really bad description of mystery or bug in counting numbers or what ???




please run a tests on your test server and repair these shield and resistance problems, ppl paid $$$ for these ninjas
and they are not working properly. these are serious bugs and game mechanic problems.....
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On 2016-12-19 05:59:09Show this Author Only
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Hey

Thanks for conducting the tests. I'll make sure the team knows.

On a side note. Ran a similar test in a 3v3 setting. Minato placed on one team. and Hiruzen on the bottom. Iruka shield promptly worked fine. However, in a PVP setting with both on the same team, it acts up with the %.
Again, Thanks for running your own tests.
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On 2016-12-19 06:35:23Show this Author Only
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  • Hasahyo On 2016-12-19 05:48:19
  • another test with minato + hiruzen + kurenai
    so according to description of her mystery she should give shield on 1 person based on her resistance....
    on pictures you can see her resistance is 4318
    she is in team with minato +40% resistance and hiruzen +40% resistanace.... she should give one
    ninja shield of value = 8463


    but result is 3022 !!!! just for info that number is from 4318 *1,4 / 2
    (her resistance multiplied only by one bonus 40% resistance and divided by 2)
    this gives absolutly no sense....
    bug for not getting 2x buff and then really bad description of mystery or bug in counting numbers or what ???




    please run a tests on your test server and repair these shield and resistance problems, ppl paid $$$ for these ninjas
    and they are not working properly. these are serious bugs and game mechanic problems.....
Kurenai always gave 50% of her resistance as shield, the only bug i see here is the resistance buffs aren't stacking, she is only getting 40% not 80%.
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On 2016-12-19 06:53:42Show this Author Only
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Also your earth main test looks fine, the only bug i see there is buffs not stacking again.


Earth main shield is 40% of his res and he has 6871 res by default so ;

Shield normaly should be 2748.
Shield with Steel Body (it gives 20% resistance) should be 3298, which is what you got, it didn't stack with Minato.
Shield with Minato but no Steel body should be 3847, with boulder jutsu it's halved to 1923.

Why it's halved? I don't know but it always was in all versions, i think they made that so they aren't invincible if they are left last in pvp, can you imagine earth shielding himself for 5k+ every turn and shield from Super Stone Fist Jutsu every other turn.
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On 2016-12-19 17:48:24Show this Author Only
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  • Dym On 2016-12-19 06:53:42
  • Also your earth main test looks fine, the only bug i see there is buffs not stacking again.


    Earth main shield is 40% of his res and he has 6871 res by default so ;

    Shield normaly should be 2748.
    Shield with Steel Body (it gives 20% resistance) should be 3298, which is what you got, it didn't stack with Minato.
    Shield with Minato but no Steel body should be 3847, with boulder jutsu it's halved to 1923.

    Why it's halved? I don't know but it always was in all versions, i think they made that so they aren't invincible if they are left last in pvp, can you imagine earth shielding himself for 5k+ every turn and shield from Super Stone Fist Jutsu every other turn.
already talked to them, they confirmed all bugs I found, also it is nice that kurenai is giving only 50% but description of skill is "based on her own esistance = whole resistance not halve"

pretty difference when you should have +80% resistance or +40% resistance, also earth main is not getting even 1 of that buffs...he is missing all resistance buffs
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On 2016-12-19 17:59:01Show this Author Only
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Are you adding the characters to your team in the correct order? Sometimes i forget to drop kankuro down before temari so it causes her not to shield his puppet. But if i drop kankuro onto the team and then put temari then his puppet will get the shield too.
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On 2016-12-19 18:09:43Show this Author Only
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ofc lol, I am not noob
anyway testers confirmed these bugs and they sent it to devs.
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On 2016-12-19 22:08:37Show this Author Only
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  • Hasahyo On 2016-12-19 17:48:24
  • already talked to them, they confirmed all bugs I found, also it is nice that kurenai is giving only 50% but description of skill is "based on her own esistance = whole resistance not halve"

    pretty difference when you should have +80% resistance or +40% resistance, also earth main is not getting even 1 of that buffs...he is missing all resistance buffs
He is getting 20% buff from Steel Body and that stops Minato buff from working on him. If you do your test with Unyelding passive, you will see Minato buff work on him, he will get 3847 shield if you still have same resistance. All the numbers you got were normal. Only bug there is, 2 buffs to resistance don't stack.

For your tests you assumed Kurenai does 100% of resistance and Earth Main does 50% which is wrong, Kurenai does 50% and Earth main does 40%.
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On 2016-12-20 02:26:49Show this Author Only
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  • Dym On 2016-12-19 22:08:37
  • He is getting 20% buff from Steel Body and that stops Minato buff from working on him. If you do your test with Unyelding passive, you will see Minato buff work on him, he will get 3847 shield if you still have same resistance. All the numbers you got were normal. Only bug there is, 2 buffs to resistance don't stack.

    For your tests you assumed Kurenai does 100% of resistance and Earth Main does 50% which is wrong, Kurenai does 50% and Earth main does 40%.
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you obviously have problems with reading, dont you ? I want them to repair description of skill or mechanics of skill.

also that doesnt matter he gets 20% from steel body, he is not getting any buff from minato or hiruzen and thats a bugs in game, not talking about stacking both, he is not getting either minato's or hiruzen's 40% buff.

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On 2016-12-20 04:56:22Show this Author Only
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  • Hasahyo On 2016-12-20 02:26:49


  • you obviously have problems with reading, dont you ? I want them to repair description of skill or mechanics of skill.

    also that doesnt matter he gets 20% from steel body, he is not getting any buff from minato or hiruzen and thats a bugs in game, not talking about stacking both, he is not getting either minato's or hiruzen's 40% buff.

    This post was last edited by mad***@gmail.com at 2016-12-20 02:28
Where does it say 100% in there? Almost all shields says they work on resistance, if they don't give you an amount don't just assume it's 100%. Enma has that exact line, he does 50% of res, Gaara also has that exact line and he does 20%.

And you literaly proved that Minato worked in your screen shots, with the boulder jutsu one.

6871 x 1.4 = 9619

9619 x 0.4 = 3847

Earth main is does 40% not 50% of his res as shield. And if earth main is under Boulder Jutsu from passive, he does half shield, you got 3846 in the end, off by 1. If you do that test but with Unyeild passive you will get 3847 and it shows that Minato works. Only the first resistance buff works, Minato will work with earth main if you aren't using Steel Body. This post was last edited by Dym at 2016-12-20 05:05
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On 2016-12-20 06:04:35Show this Author Only
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So is steel body bugged?
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On 2016-12-20 06:55:14Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-12-20 06:04:35
  • So is steel body bugged?
No, the only ''bug'' there is, is when more then one thing is buffing resistance only the first one works. And i say bug in brackets cause i suspect it's intentional, they don't want you to have more shield, earth main already gets nerfed in future , with 2.0 he makes less shields.
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On 2016-12-20 17:59:18Show this Author Only
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  • Dym On 2016-12-20 04:56:22
  • Where does it say 100% in there? Almost all shields says they work on resistance, if they don't give you an amount don't just assume it's 100%. Enma has that exact line, he does 50% of res, Gaara also has that exact line and he does 20%.

    And you literaly proved that Minato worked in your screen shots, with the boulder jutsu one.

    6871 x 1.4 = 9619

    9619 x 0.4 = 3847

    Earth main is does 40% not 50% of his res as shield. And if earth main is under Boulder Jutsu from passive, he does half shield, you got 3846 in the end, off by 1. If you do that test but with Unyeild passive you will get 3847 and it shows that Minato works. Only the first resistance buff works, Minato will work with earth main if you aren't using Steel Body. This post was last edited by Dym at 2016-12-20 05:05
"Minato will work with earth main if you aren't using Steel Body"


and thats obviously a BUG in game, minato's buff has to work with steel body too....in 2.0 all shields will be nerfed by decreasing value by 10% I believe


also minato + hiruzen in team should be +80% resistance, not only that one buff is working, when earth has steel body then not even 1 is working, this is not how it shoud work, if yes that will be huge problem coz WE paid fot that ninjas and there were nothing about exceptions


it cant work like this without proper descriptions and explanations, when you purchase something with clear description, owner cant just ADD there oh I forgot that this and this will not gonna work with this and in this situation, thats nonsense.

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It sounds like you are making mountains out of molehills. If anything Earth will be even more OP with the new mystery.
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