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On 2019-04-16 07:19:06Show this Author Only
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  • Broken Screen On 2019-04-16 06:19:45
  • Like you meant that you need to raise your own power, to finally be able to have some decent fight?


    Nearly 6.0, players are still crying about f2p being food to p2w.

    You will NEVER catch up to p2w.

I am not saying we need f2p events where we can catch up to p2w I know. My own power is 213K among the top 10 on my own server, pretty decent for being f2p and I still can have some decent fights.

What I said was, sage, matasuri and bonds should have matching according power not level so everyone has a fair chance.

If there are 30 people in sage and 6 of them are 350K-550K, and rest are 190-250K then yeah f2p or low spenders are still food for p2ws if it was balanced no one would have a 30 win streak and a 30 second battle.

Make these events have power brackets that are less than 50-75K and/or more than 50-75K your power so everyone gets a fair chance.




This post was last edited by BlindMosquito on 2019-04-16 07:21:46.
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On 2019-04-16 07:56:37Show this Author Only
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  • BlindMosquito On 2019-04-16 07:19:06
  • I am not saying we need f2p events where we can catch up to p2w I know. My own power is 213K among the top 10 on my own server, pretty decent for being f2p and I still can have some decent fights.

    What I said was, sage, matasuri and bonds should have matching according power not level so everyone has a fair chance.

    If there are 30 people in sage and 6 of them are 350K-550K, and rest are 190-250K then yeah f2p or low spenders are still food for p2ws if it was balanced no one would have a 30 win streak and a 30 second battle.

    Make these events have power brackets that are less than 50-75K and/or more than 50-75K your power so everyone gets a fair chance.

If you are expecting full balancing, that will never happen as sage brackets depend on who signs up and the amount needed to fill up a bracket.

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On 2019-04-16 08:59:24Show this Author Only
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Yeah, except China has balanced Sage. XD So loads more people actually do it, I would think.

Granted, some here would throw a total fit, but in my limited experience in China's Sage, everyone's level 100, I'm thinking maybe only ini carries over--again, not sure, Sage over there is at a weird for me locally time--and it's down to the ninja you have and the skill with which you use them.

My totally F2P team over there spanked a Pos 1 Edo Hiruzen team. What would normally be a one shot, my team took, and then won. That said, I still only had a 3 win streak that time, and it's a good team. My team was limited to around 2.5k power as a result, and the bulk I fought were around 2.6k. My power isn't the highest there by any means, but not that low, I assure you.

I'm fairly sure there's still the difficulty of finding a more fair fight in Bonds or Mat, as was brought up. Not sure at the moment about stuff like Training Grounds, need to hit it more over there. Arena still has crazy matching. But the 3vs3 bug is fixed. lol

Also, it is kind of a thing not seeing us getting Tsunade's SB book shop as definitely coming. Or the Anbu guy's kosher official partial auto complete tasks menu (take that advertising bots, Anbu guy is official and free consumable cards via doing stuff to use him).

Or the East Konoha shop with, among other things, good ninja frags like 2 to 5 at a time (just got my Anbu Kakashi there that way, and Cheongsam Tenten not long before that), and 20 frags per deals for those with Jonin medal (and not garbage ninja either, think Edo Tobirama, think G. Kakuzu and such). Like, it's not game balance breaking there, I don't know that the absurdly good books can be pulled, but rather bought in her shop for coups or seals, depending. And some of the more rare books are still in events. Command flags aren't in shops, but events or event shops for an average of 2,000 coupons. Just like all Myoboku items and Training Potions are in Grocery shop, but not training pills or command flags.

People who can't save still will have issues there, so whales can relax about that if it all came over, but it's not a game breaking chasm. Whales can still whale away and have their contests in Space-Time hitting 1 million in power, etc etc etc, casual players can have fun and be enticed to spend here and there.

Also, free 5 star GNW Konan on login for a certain grouping of days was a thing. Got 80 frags per, 3 day trial Jonin medals each time, command flag frags, and your basic coins. Not game breaking, GNW Nagato and Yahiko weren't like that, either coups or ingots I believe (one or both may have on debut been ingot only, but nothing outlandish per frag), as with Ibiki, ingots at first in event, then later on 150 coups per frag in events contrasted with free by event 3 star Mizuki. Not like everything gets handed to you on a silver platter, whales still duke it out with crazy power and rare ninja, but more people can do more events, not get too discouraged, and still get some decent stuff.

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On 2019-04-16 09:10:31Show this Author Only
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Wellp, time to save for Naruto [Ronin]. I will not spend a coupon until he's out!

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On 2019-04-16 10:02:58Show this Author Only
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  • Kittn. On 2019-04-16 09:10:31
  • Wellp, time to save for Naruto [Ronin]. I will not spend a coupon until he's out!

Yes sir!!!! But they will sell him with recharge event first.

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On 2019-04-16 10:12:41Show this Author Only
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@Danzō: From what I have noticed, there are 2 or more different sages at a time but definitely 2, both are cross-server and have the same server ranges that you have in Space Time and Training Grounds (some 180-200 servers more or less) and no the time you sign up doesn't matter as I have signed up right when registration opens or is about to close and I end up on the same sage. Sage brackets depend on levels. Level 104-105 from your server are placed together with other 104-105 for certain. Bonds and Arena however, are fully cross server where you can find opponents from S1 to S1248.

Its not about crying, or to git gud. To put it simple, you (generalizing) maxed out your position 1 refinement, and some on position 2, you paid for it or collected from sage or saved coupons or some aliens came down and handed it to you. Why not fight others who did the same or are near that or something along those lines. Others are still grinding for it and its getting harder to grind. It still wont be fully fair if you do power brackets instead of levels as there are people who are 150K and have 22K ini, use specific ninjas and most certainly win most fights. But grouping even a 250k (100K position 1 personal BP) with a someone who has 500K (200K position 1 personal BP) is just unfair.


@⚙Lexa: Thank you for your post.






This post was last edited by BlindMosquito on 2019-04-16 10:13:57.
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On 2019-04-16 10:43:36Show this Author Only
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can you give us the rest of hidans skillbreaks already

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On 2019-04-16 10:50:41Show this Author Only
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  • BlindMosquito On 2019-04-16 10:12:41
  • @Danzō: From what I have noticed, there are 2 or more different sages at a time but definitely 2, both are cross-server and have the same server ranges that you have in Space Time and Training Grounds (some 180-200 servers more or less) and no the time you sign up doesn't matter as I have signed up right when registration opens or is about to close and I end up on the same sage. Sage brackets depend on levels. Level 104-105 from your server are placed together with other 104-105 for certain. Bonds and Arena however, are fully cross server where you can find opponents from S1 to S1248.

    Its not about crying, or to git gud. To put it simple, you (generalizing) maxed out your position 1 refinement, and some on position 2, you paid for it or collected from sage or saved coupons or some aliens came down and handed it to you. Why not fight others who did the same or are near that or something along those lines. Others are still grinding for it and its getting harder to grind. It still wont be fully fair if you do power brackets instead of levels as there are people who are 150K and have 22K ini, use specific ninjas and most certainly win most fights. But grouping even a 250k (100K position 1 personal BP) with a someone who has 500K (200K position 1 personal BP) is just unfair.


    @⚙Lexa: Thank you for your post.



At the moment, a sage bracket need a certain amount of players to be considered full for the sage day. It is somewhere between 30-90 players per bracket depending on how many signed up for sage. The system won't make one bracket full and leave the other basically empty (like less than 5 per field unless someone can prove otherwise). I believe they try to evenly distribute the players to different brackets since sometimes I move to the top bracket as I barely get huge increases in power.


Clearly, there won't be 30-90 players that are high in power and so seeing a 500k beat a 200k will happen regardless. What would happen if sage focused on power first is that the players in the top bracket that they leveled to fast and not focused on power are going to move down to a lower bracket and level freezers in lower brackets are more likely to move up to the top brackets. It would be better than what we have but expecting that everyone will get a fair balance is unrealistic.


Now, I'm not sure if you expect change or just venting as I'm sure some people here already know by know that they aren't going to change the criteria for the regular sage. The only upside is that Tencent added the "Arena Sage", which is apparently for one day of the week, where only initiative is considered so that helps a little in terms of balancing.




This post was last edited by Danzō on 2019-04-16 10:57:55.
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On 2019-04-16 11:35:24Show this Author Only
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Probably won’t be able to get any of them.


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On 2019-04-16 12:56:15Show this Author Only
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Reward for Nature Training

reward

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On 2019-04-16 16:35:42Show this Author Only
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  • Danzō On 2019-04-16 07:56:37
  • If you are expecting full balancing, that will never happen as sage brackets depend on who signs up and the amount needed to fill up a bracket.

All the problems come from the fact they want 90 people per field.

Cut them to 36/45 per field, increase the rewards for being top10 and add a rotation that swaps every time who is not top10 with top3 of a lower field and you'll get way way better matching and fights while also removing any reason to level freeze.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-04-16 16:41:28.
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On 2019-04-16 19:35:56Show this Author Only
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So just more op ninjas to get shat on by and even more power systems to fall behind at.

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On 2019-04-16 20:59:50Show this Author Only
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  • momohiu On 2019-04-16 10:02:58
  • Yes sir!!!! But they will sell him with recharge event first.

Can someone sell naruto ronin to me? without seeing him in action just reading his skills I cant see what the big deal is

Sure his attack stacks is impressive, but with no dodge, no interrupt, no useful debuffs, no suppress super armour, no immunities he sounds atleast very easy to counter 6p, kcm,agk,sasuke rinne,itachi sus, itachi edo, fire main,anbu yamato could all hard counter him no?


Plus with over 90 percent of players having a p1 that is either naturally immune a dodger or has super armour, whether ronin has the higher init or not I wouldn't have thought he could pose that big a threat before you can take him down




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On 2019-04-16 22:22:02Show this Author Only
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  • -Zaku On 2019-04-16 20:59:50
  • Can someone sell naruto ronin to me? without seeing him in action just reading his skills I cant see what the big deal is

    Sure his attack stacks is impressive, but with no dodge, no interrupt, no useful debuffs, no suppress super armour, no immunities he sounds atleast very easy to counter 6p, kcm,agk,sasuke rinne,itachi sus, itachi edo, fire main,anbu yamato could all hard counter him no?


    Plus with over 90 percent of players having a p1 that is either naturally immune a dodger or has super armour, whether ronin has the higher init or not I wouldn't have thought he could pose that big a threat before you can take him down

just type him on Yt, u will see him in action, spreading mayhem on everyone all around- truth is tho, that they got % tactics there so dmg will always be higher to look at




This post was last edited by TotallyNotKuram on 2019-04-16 22:26:03.
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On 2019-04-16 22:28:41Show this Author Only
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  • BlindMosquito On 2019-04-16 03:44:35
  • Will there be an update where f2p have a chance to fight and win and not be a fodder for p2ws? i.e. SWB, matasrui, bonds where 150-220Ks fight 360-600K

agree

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On 2019-04-16 22:37:43Show this Author Only
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are you fricking kidding me

i just upgraded asuma wb to 5 star. he better be a trial one.

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On 2019-04-16 23:13:57Show this Author Only
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  • -Zaku On 2019-04-16 20:59:50
  • Can someone sell naruto ronin to me? without seeing him in action just reading his skills I cant see what the big deal is

    Sure his attack stacks is impressive, but with no dodge, no interrupt, no useful debuffs, no suppress super armour, no immunities he sounds atleast very easy to counter 6p, kcm,agk,sasuke rinne,itachi sus, itachi edo, fire main,anbu yamato could all hard counter him no?


    Plus with over 90 percent of players having a p1 that is either naturally immune a dodger or has super armour, whether ronin has the higher init or not I wouldn't have thought he could pose that big a threat before you can take him down

Ronin naruto is a sword ninja so most people run him with lm for root immunity so unless u have a control that can remove immunity, won't do much. Also I believe his standard hits 4 units with the added bloodthirsty. So if it kills a unit it'll get more standards, which can be troublesome if u have a weak pos 4 or lots of clones. The typical team for him is ronin pos 1, edo itachi pos 2, lm pos 3, bee pos 4.

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On 2019-04-17 00:30:21Show this Author Only
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(Lightning training will open April 18th, Water Training April 20th and Earth training on the 22nd). The mode will open for one week.



This means 6.0 drops on Thursday? Sounds legit

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On 2019-04-17 02:57:43Show this Author Only
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  • MinatoNаmikaze On 2019-04-15 22:37:56
  • Where is Tsunade NPC?

This.

Fix it already.

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On 2019-04-17 12:48:03Show this Author Only
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look nice, but think before launch 6.0 we need the others features and fix the bugs from 5.0, but looks nice the preview

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