Hey guys!
I wanted to share some info and testing to you guys and also to better explain how his passive works.
Buff:
First off his buff is the first buff to come into game that's exact same as Main Characters one, 40% for 5 rounds.
It's very versatile with the fact that he can buff 9 units which means it can be used also in GNW /bond arena and it will buff up your team mates, and especially the fact that he buffs EVERYONE.
The buff DOESN'T STACK with:
-Main Character enhancement buffs
-Wind Dance, Warrior Killing Intent
-Basically any buff that has atk/nin in desc
Therefore if you want to fully buff Edo Hiruzen you must use Earth Main with his shields buff.
Anbu Tactic, Ninjutsu Urge, Guidance also work but they are not as good buffs.
5 Element Passive:
What this part of the passive means is that Edo Hiruzen is considered to be a full 5 element ninja which means:
-You can buff him with ANY element barrier (e.g. Darui, Gaara)
-You can shield him with ANY element type of shield (e.g. Mabui, Toroi)
-You can give him an additonal attack with Pakura
Comparing damage between Danzo and Darui barriers:
Thanks to Rezi for helping with the test
Darui Barrier:
Non-crit = 11 -12k
Crit = 21-22k
Danzo barrier:
Non-crit = 11-12k
Crit = 21-22k
As you can see there is 0 damage difference between the Darui and Danzo barrier even though Darui barrier isn't supposed to buff him , but it does thanks to the passive.
Only the Danzo barrier screenshot he was luckier with criticals
Mabui Shield:
As you can see even though Mabui passive says "shields Lightning and Water units" she will shield Edo Hiruzen also thanks to his passive.
Bonus picture of Edo Hiruzen dabbing
Hope it helped and cleared some misunderstandings, have a nice day guys!
His buff does stack with Red Lotus Secret. It doesn't stack with Warrior's Killing Intent. Tested this on Kakashi Clones, my FM did 3.8-4.2k without Red Lotus and 5.3-5.8k with Red Lotus.
EDIT: Probably it doesn't work with 5 round buffs, but works fine with 3 round ones.
His buff does stack with Red Lotus Secret. It doesn't stack with Warrior's Killing Intent. Tested this on Kakashi Clones, my FM did 3.8-4.2k without Red Lotus and 5.3-5.8k with Red Lotus.
EDIT: Probably it doesn't work with 5 round buffs, but works fine with 3 round ones.
Ah I am sorry , I kept thinking about the fact that it doesn't buff him
But yes it does stack with Red Lotus Secret, will edit that now
Are you sure about Wind Dance? I have seen hiruzen used quite a bit with that talent and it's quite strange that so many people in CN (even higher spenders) couldn't realize that the buff isn't working.
the 40% buff to resistance still gets applied, only the 40% to nin no, and considering he self buff resistance that's an huge impact on the damage he would suffer from the enemy.
Warriors might need some testing, cause i know it will not help edo hiruzen since hes not a sword user, but unsure of if same applies to say lightning main in this setup.
Yeah it won't help Edo Hiruzen, but for example if you are using LM-Shisui-Edo Hiruzen, Shisui won't get the bonus damage from warrior killing intent if you use it
Are you sure about Wind Dance? I have seen hiruzen used quite a bit with that talent and it's quite strange that so many people in CN (even higher spenders) couldn't realize that the buff isn't working.
Yes I am sure since both have 40% nin for 5 rounds in the buff desc
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