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Would it be possible to maybe update the number of packs for Great Ninja War? (Even if the packs added would only be 5 scroll packs) It would help alot of players not to get shorted.

For example, my group on Fugako (S135) Has over 25 members that go to every war THIS week, and next week we are expecting closer to 40 members in, so that leaves nearly 30 Ninjas without a reward (short of group coins) for their time.

Right now my group leader has a do*ent that they go through to cycle who gets rewards so that everyone will get rewards EVENTUALLY. But it's not a perfect system, because what about the people right now? or the week that they were supposed to get a reward they were out of town/no internet?

Will there be a possible fix in the future for this? Without it alot of ninjas would be losing the chances to get rewards consistantly.

Thank you for your time~
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On 2016-11-27 13:34:38Show this Author Only
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Gather some strong players, like 10 including yourself and make a new group for resource gain.
At first it maybe rough because you will lose your power because group skill is gone and you have to build your group from scratch. But as time go you guys can enjoy your free packs everyweek also give more chances to people who stay at your original group to get packs.
It's a win win for everyone, when the merge come you guys may just disband and go back to your original group.
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  • Kouka On 2016-11-27 13:34:38
  • Gather some strong players, like 10 including yourself and make a new group for resource gain.
    At first it maybe rough because you will lose your power because group skill is gone and you have to build your group from scratch. But as time go you guys can enjoy your free packs everyweek also give more chances to people who stay at your original group to get packs.
    It's a win win for everyone, when the merge come you guys may just disband and go back to your original group.
that really doesn't fix the problem if 54 people can play in the great ninja war why not up the packs to at least 15, the 5 scroll pack is a good idea, your way is not indicative of a team player your suppose to help your group mates not cut and run so you get better reward
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  • GrimDarkstar On 2016-11-27 14:22:54
  • that really doesn't fix the problem if 54 people can play in the great ninja war why not up the packs to at least 15, the 5 scroll pack is a good idea, your way is not indicative of a team player your suppose to help your group mates not cut and run so you get better reward
It will fix a lot of problems. Tell me exactly what benefit from stay in a crowded group and need to wait month for pack? All I can see are :
1. Power because more people, more group fund to upgrade group skill.
2. 5k group points everyweek assume that you win all the fights.
3. So you can be called a winner in GNW.

And that's all. A bunch of people who do not dare to stand out then cry about no competition in GNW and beg for merge. While if you dare to stand on your own there are benefit :
1. You can get packs everyweek.
2. Since you and some other members left your old group it's mean they has less people => easy to obtain packs for them too.
3. Creat competitive environment.
4. Test your limit.

I'm not talking nonsense. Take me as example : I was a member of the strongest group in my server. We never lose any GNW fight and forced our rival group core members to rage quit and ran to another server. But after awhile I feel bored because just like you guys I don't see any competition, I don't see any goal. Also my old group is using the gnw point bet system for packs which I find not fit my taste. So I left with a few members to build my own group. After 1 first week of preparation now we get packs everyweek and I can proudly say we're the second strongest in the server (We has 6 groups). I lose 4k power after that, I suffer greatly in other activities like sage, matsuri, world boss where I normally can get full rewards (seals, coin, exp) but it can be fix with your group effort. Now my group skill is lv 6 after 1 month, I start to gain seal from sage, matsuri again. Be able to stand toe to toe with a p2w player who has 5k power gap, etc... In short, I'm doing fine and my members are also doing fine collecting our free packs everyweek from now on. Also be able to crush people who stay in strong group but dont get seals in the future when the merge hit us.

Everyone get rewards for attend GNW. It's group points. All important stuff can be buy with group points. For now it's Deidara, Kisame, Med Refine. Later it will be Konan, Sage Jiraiya, Sage Naruto, etc... So I don't see any reason to increase the number of packs anymore.
You want extra rewards? Stand up and make it happen. High risk high reward. Instead of posting this on forum because it won't help. This is not the first thread about this problem but do you see any change come from the dev? No, adapt to the flow and grow strong.
Cheer This post was last edited by Kouka at 2016-11-27 14:08
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On 2016-11-27 15:45:46Show this Author Only
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  • Kouka On 2016-11-27 15:04:36
  • It will fix a lot of problems. Tell me exactly what benefit from stay in a crowded group and need to wait month for pack? All I can see are :
    1. Power because more people, more group fund to upgrade group skill.
    2. 5k group points everyweek assume that you win all the fights.
    3. So you can be called a winner in GNW.

    And that's all. A bunch of people who do not dare to stand out then cry about no competition in GNW and beg for merge. While if you dare to stand on your own there are benefit :
    1. You can get packs everyweek.
    2. Since you and some other members left your old group it's mean they has less people => easy to obtain packs for them too.
    3. Creat competitive environment.
    4. Test your limit.

    I'm not talking nonsense. Take me as example : I was a member of the strongest group in my server. We never lose any GNW fight and forced our rival group core members to rage quit and ran to another server. But after awhile I feel bored because just like you guys I don't see any competition, I don't see any goal. Also my old group is using the gnw point bet system for packs which I find not fit my taste. So I left with a few members to build my own group. After 1 first week of preparation now we get packs everyweek and I can proudly say we're the second strongest in the server (We has 6 groups). I lose 4k power after that, I suffer greatly in other activities like sage, matsuri, world boss where I normally can get full rewards (seals, coin, exp) but it can be fix with your group effort. Now my group skill is lv 6 after 1 month, I start to gain seal from sage, matsuri again. Be able to stand toe to toe with a p2w player who has 5k power gap, etc... In short, I'm doing fine and my members are also doing fine collecting our free packs everyweek from now on. Also be able to crush people who stay in strong group but dont get seals in the future when the merge hit us.

    Everyone get rewards for attend GNW. It's group points. All important stuff can be buy with group points. For now it's Deidara, Kisame, Med Refine. Later it will be Konan, Sage Jiraiya, Sage Naruto, etc... So I don't see any reason to increase the number of packs anymore.
    You want extra rewards? Stand up and make it happen. High risk high reward. Instead of posting this on forum because it won't help. This is not the first thread about this problem but do you see any change come from the dev? No, adapt to the flow and grow strong.
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This is exactly what i've been asking people to do.

Break from the Band Wagon and enjoy the packs.
Why you all need to * in a Group just because you are winning it now?

Make new group get packs every week and live a competitive server day in day out.
There will be no more:-
1. People rage quit due to 1 group hoarding everything
2. People rage quit due to boredom of p2w team with all other strong f2p in it.
3. People shouting their server is dead please merge, just to know it will be dead again if "Group Hoarding" still happens after that.

Why you all need to be no.1 when there is not enough cake for everyones. When you can,
Be no.2 and get the same slice of cake every week or Even be no.3-no.8 and get a slice of Cake every week instead of not getting any for 1 month.

Now people will come and say they are playing this game to win, but really? why is there a number 1-10 in the first place if everyone wants to be no.1.

Slowly gather your resources and once you've powered up the no.1 will be yours. Don't cry being plundered as you aren't losing the game just few points that you c*ways make up later on.

Break up, grow, patience is virtue the system is there for you to reap the resources, instead you are asking for more when there is hardly 5 group per GNW.

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On 2016-11-27 16:37:53Show this Author Only
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I would love to have more GNW packs to distribute. My group is a rather large one on my server. We always have 54 participants with the exception of maybe the first round on Wednesday. The trouble becomes when you win the GNW you only have 9 packs to distribute instead of 10 that the second place has. And when you have 54 participants that breaks down to 1 pack every six weeks. A lot of my members are selfless and have given up receiving packs so that others can get them more often. But why is this the case? Why not have the amount of packs you receive go up depending on group level? When you have 110 members 9 packs just ain't gonna cover that.

And of course we could do as some have suggested on this thread and split up and Take L's to get packs more often. But I ain't about that life, I ain't never been about that life. I'm not bringing this up for my benefit because I never take GNW packs, but I plead for my members who bust their asses to be the best only to get shafted in the end because they are the best. I don't mean that to sound arrogant either, I just think that hard work doesn't deserve to take a back seat to someone taking an L so that they can get packs weekly. Maybe I am the only one who feels that way, but I don't think that I am. This post was last edited by Beji at 2016-11-27 16:39
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  • Beji On 2016-11-27 16:37:53
  • I would love to have more GNW packs to distribute. My group is a rather large one on my server. We always have 54 participants with the exception of maybe the first round on Wednesday. The trouble becomes when you win the GNW you only have 9 packs to distribute instead of 10 that the second place has. And when you have 54 participants that breaks down to 1 pack every six weeks. A lot of my members are selfless and have given up receiving packs so that others can get them more often. But why is this the case? Why not have the amount of packs you receive go up depending on group level? When you have 110 members 9 packs just ain't gonna cover that.

    And of course we could do as some have suggested on this thread and split up and Take L's to get packs more often. But I ain't about that life, I ain't never been about that life. I'm not bringing this up for my benefit because I never take GNW packs, but I plead for my members who bust their asses to be the best only to get shafted in the end because they are the best. I don't mean that to sound arrogant either, I just think that hard work doesn't deserve to take a back seat to someone taking an L so that they can get packs weekly. Maybe I am the only one who feels that way, but I don't think that I am. This post was last edited by Beji at 2016-11-27 16:39
actually i feel so gross when there are lots of afk in GNW but b/c they have more ppl and stronger members
they win and they get full rewards ?
i actually oasgame should make this rule that afk in GNW shouldnt get a full reward or cant get GNW pack.
i know some ppl try hard but cant get anything other than coins but some ppl get full rewards even they are afk in GNW ....
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Yeah I see where you are coming from but if they sign up for GNW they clearly aren't completely afk. Some people just don't know how to fight so they put on auto battle.
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On 2016-11-27 16:54:09Show this Author Only
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  • Beji On 2016-11-27 16:48:07
  • Yeah I see where you are coming from but if they sign up for GNW they clearly aren't completely afk. Some people just don't know how to fight so they put on auto battle.
i m not talking about doing auto.
ppl who just stay on " leave" sign and do other things while GNW
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"Wah, wah, wah, we want things given to us! Its not fair!" Thats kinda what you sound like.
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  • Beji On 2016-11-27 16:37:53
  • I would love to have more GNW packs to distribute. My group is a rather large one on my server. We always have 54 participants with the exception of maybe the first round on Wednesday. The trouble becomes when you win the GNW you only have 9 packs to distribute instead of 10 that the second place has. And when you have 54 participants that breaks down to 1 pack every six weeks. A lot of my members are selfless and have given up receiving packs so that others can get them more often. But why is this the case? Why not have the amount of packs you receive go up depending on group level? When you have 110 members 9 packs just ain't gonna cover that.

    And of course we could do as some have suggested on this thread and split up and Take L's to get packs more often. But I ain't about that life, I ain't never been about that life. I'm not bringing this up for my benefit because I never take GNW packs, but I plead for my members who bust their asses to be the best only to get shafted in the end because they are the best. I don't mean that to sound arrogant either, I just think that hard work doesn't deserve to take a back seat to someone taking an L so that they can get packs weekly. Maybe I am the only one who feels that way, but I don't think that I am. This post was last edited by Beji at 2016-11-27 16:39
Just for you know the one who take L is the one who work hardest. Because we barely got 10 members and all suffered from power lost. We have to work our asses up to recover from that, not to mention to actually get improve. 1m2 coins per day from all members to the group fund mean we can't actually improve anything for over the past month, we are just recover while people stay in strong group can improve themself easily.
I dont think those who stay in large group are hard workers. At least when you compare them to people who break out and stand on their own.
Like I said everyone get rewards, it's group points. Packs are just extra rewards for the strongest and contributed a lot for the group. They let the leader distribute packs manually for reasons.
Some will left to take risk and gain more. Some will stay just to have an easily life. It's fair. If someone choose an easy way they need to wait longer than others who took it the hard way.
Again, packs are just extra rewards and no reason to increase the extra rewards.
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  • Kouka On 2016-11-27 17:15:25
  • Just for you know the one who take L is the one who work hardest. Because we barely got 10 members and all suffered from power lost. We have to work our asses up to recover from that, not to mention to actually get improve. 1m2 coins per day from all members to the group fund mean we can't actually improve anything for over the past month, we are just recover while people stay in strong group can improve themself easily.
    I dont think those who stay in large group are hard workers. At least when you compare them to people who break out and stand on their own.
    Like I said everyone get rewards, it's group points. Packs are just extra rewards for the strongest and contributed a lot for the group. They let the leader distribute packs manually for reasons.
    Some will left to take risk and gain more. Some will stay just to have an easily life. It's fair. If someone choose an easy way they need to wait longer than others who took it the hard way.
    Again, packs are just extra rewards and no reason to increase the extra rewards.
I don't think that people who stay in smaller groups work harder but that is just my opinion so let's agree to disagree. Speaking from experience tho, I see my people sacrifice for our team more often then not. And we are okay with getting less packs. That being said just because someone is okay with a burden doesn't mean they should have to be. Like tolerating a broken pinky finger for example "Yeah this broken pinky finger *s but I'm okay with it." But at the end of the day you don't want that broken pinky finger.

When people have left my group to attain more packs we see that as greed and it's not looked at very well. But just to point something out, speaking objectively, what you say about group contributions could be viewed at in the same light as how you view GNW packs for large groups. That being said, I understand your point of view.

But atleast the people in my group, they are always trying to get stronger and there is one or two other groups on my server that have people as hard working and dedicated as my members. And they aren't small groups. I'm sure the small ones work hard as well so I'm not trying to turn this conversation into a * contest.

I'm just saying when you get 1st place in GNW you shouldn't have only 9 GNW packs to distribute. At the very least you should have 10. I know one of them technically goes to the leader for first place but all that contains is a title. And you say its easy being in a big (competitive group), IMO its a hell of a lot easier just to show up to GNW and take an L.
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There's 10 packs though?

If your leader is taking one every week that's not good LOL we had a leader of a group in our server who did that and he was insulted by so many people for doing that because welp it's not an excuse for your leader to say 'I can get it because I'm the leader'. Lots of people left his group because this leader wasn't good, I won't say it's because of greed but more of the leader being a dictator.

In our group we have a system to distribute where we go by your total donations, so depending how long you've been loyal to the group and the amount you donate daily, you can get packs.
Top donators get L.
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  • Beji On 2016-11-27 19:00:09
  • I don't think that people who stay in smaller groups work harder but that is just my opinion so let's agree to disagree. Speaking from experience tho, I see my people sacrifice for our team more often then not. And we are okay with getting less packs. That being said just because someone is okay with a burden doesn't mean they should have to be. Like tolerating a broken pinky finger for example "Yeah this broken pinky finger *s but I'm okay with it." But at the end of the day you don't want that broken pinky finger.

    When people have left my group to attain more packs we see that as greed and it's not looked at very well. But just to point something out, speaking objectively, what you say about group contributions could be viewed at in the same light as how you view GNW packs for large groups. That being said, I understand your point of view.

    But atleast the people in my group, they are always trying to get stronger and there is one or two other groups on my server that have people as hard working and dedicated as my members. And they aren't small groups. I'm sure the small ones work hard as well so I'm not trying to turn this conversation into a * contest.

    I'm just saying when you get 1st place in GNW you shouldn't have only 9 GNW packs to distribute. At the very least you should have 10. I know one of them technically goes to the leader for first place but all that contains is a title. And you say its easy being in a big (competitive group), IMO its a hell of a lot easier just to show up to GNW and take an L.
This is the issue of Leader of the Top Group.

1. They can't agree to have more group to take up their ranks, as GNW is never a game for 1 person despite how powerful you are.
2. Nobody participate in GNW just to L, the Ling part is a process in order to create a better competitive server at the end of the day.
3. Nobody like to L, so if they break up to smaller group just to get more packs it is not GREED as this attitude actually creates a better environment for every player name it new or old.
4. New environment due to new players will have more successful or competitive group to join in The long run.
5. Competitive environment, just in case the current Top Group lead left or being an ass to others, they can simply left to another active group that isn't new but "Comparable".
6. The point you highlighted so others can have more packs when winning, the truth is at the end of EVERY GNW there is 80 packs available for grab, unfortunately ppl keep going for the 10 or 9 pack, so again is the game being stingy about packs? the answer is NO. BUT are the players being lazy to put effort to gain what they want? the answer is YES in your case.

Lets change new/old players mind set make every server more competitive.

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  • On 2016-11-27 19:11:33
  • There's 10 packs though?

    If your leader is taking one every week that's not good LOL we had a leader of a group in our server who did that and he was insulted by so many people for doing that because welp it's not an excuse for your leader to say 'I can get it because I'm the leader'. Lots of people left his group because this leader wasn't good, I won't say it's because of greed but more of the leader being a dictator.

    In our group we have a system to distribute where we go by your total donations, so depending how long you've been loyal to the group and the amount you donate daily, you can get packs.
    Top donators get L.
The leader automatically gets a "Pack" that only contains the Ninja Gods title. It doesn't have any seals and it automatically goes to him.


I guess we just come from two very different places. I was in a small group when the game first started so I remember the struggles of being in one. But ultimately our top twelve members or so decided to merge with the 3rd strongest group at the time. The reason being we wanted to be more competitive. Anyway, I meant no disrespect to the small groups I merely wished to ask for the same amount of packs to give my people then any other group. But don't get me wrong, coming in first in GNW has it's own perks too outside of silly packs. I just hate not being able to provide for my family as well as they deserve.
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  • Beji On 2016-11-27 19:00:09
  • I don't think that people who stay in smaller groups work harder but that is just my opinion so let's agree to disagree. Speaking from experience tho, I see my people sacrifice for our team more often then not. And we are okay with getting less packs. That being said just because someone is okay with a burden doesn't mean they should have to be. Like tolerating a broken pinky finger for example "Yeah this broken pinky finger *s but I'm okay with it." But at the end of the day you don't want that broken pinky finger.

    When people have left my group to attain more packs we see that as greed and it's not looked at very well. But just to point something out, speaking objectively, what you say about group contributions could be viewed at in the same light as how you view GNW packs for large groups. That being said, I understand your point of view.

    But atleast the people in my group, they are always trying to get stronger and there is one or two other groups on my server that have people as hard working and dedicated as my members. And they aren't small groups. I'm sure the small ones work hard as well so I'm not trying to turn this conversation into a * contest.

    I'm just saying when you get 1st place in GNW you shouldn't have only 9 GNW packs to distribute. At the very least you should have 10. I know one of them technically goes to the leader for first place but all that contains is a title. And you say its easy being in a big (competitive group), IMO its a hell of a lot easier just to show up to GNW and take an L.
You didn't consider other activities aren't you? You think it's easy just to break out and show up to get packs while people actually need fight to win. Yes I can manipulate the result and I order my members to lose on purpose sometime to make sure we get the 2nd place for best rewards. At the same time we're trying our best to beat the strongest group. We set it as a goal and the strongest also has a goal to defend their throne. It's created a win-win situation for the server.
It's need calculation to run a small group with just 10 members, we can recruit more but I refuse to do that. Because there won't be enough packs for everyone and I don't want anyone in my group to feel unsatisfied after a rough week. It's not easy as you think it is to run that kind of group.
And it's not just GNW alone you need to see it in a wider view. Sage battlefield, Matsuri, World boss will be a lot harder for people who stay in small group. But if we can keep up in the long run it will reward us.

It's easy to make a ghost group, show up knowing they will lose and not trying anything, get crushed in all other activities. But it's not easy to stand on your own and help your members stay competitive. This post was last edited by Kouka at 2016-11-27 19:48
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I can't argue with that my man! Your conviction is solid, * to it and you will not fail!
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  • Beji On 2016-11-27 19:17:40
  • The leader automatically gets a "Pack" that only contains the Ninja Gods title. It doesn't have any seals and it automatically goes to him.


    I guess we just come from two very different places. I was in a small group when the game first started so I remember the struggles of being in one. But ultimately our top twelve members or so decided to merge with the 3rd strongest group at the time. The reason being we wanted to be more competitive. Anyway, I meant no disrespect to the small groups I merely wished to ask for the same amount of packs to give my people then any other group. But don't get me wrong, coming in first in GNW has it's own perks too outside of silly packs. I just hate not being able to provide for my family as well as they deserve.
    This post was last edited by Beji at 2016-11-27 19:28
That's just a title, only ever had it once haha

Yup, I have a monthly rotation schedule, but I only have around 18 people who attend war regularly and donate so those are the pack receivers. :)

I wanna provide the best for my family too. I love them very much.
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  • Kouka On 2016-11-27 13:34:38
  • Gather some strong players, like 10 including yourself and make a new group for resource gain.
    At first it maybe rough because you will lose your power because group skill is gone and you have to build your group from scratch. But as time go you guys can enjoy your free packs everyweek also give more chances to people who stay at your original group to get packs.
    It's a win win for everyone, when the merge come you guys may just disband and go back to your original group.
by far the *est idea ever. did u know group skills are the most important feature of all? u are saying u are willing to let go of lv35+ group skills to lv1 and donate all your coins again to that new group for contribution, just for 5 seal scrolls? losing so much
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  • On 2016-11-29 15:07:24
  • by far the *est idea ever. did u know group skills are the most important feature of all? u are saying u are willing to let go of lv35+ group skills to lv1 and donate all your coins again to that new group for contribution, just for 5 seal scrolls? losing so much
Sorry I did let go a lv 9 group with 45 group skills to do that.
We take turn to receive different packs. Average all my members received 20+ packs/month just from GNW alone. Didn't count sage, matsuri, weekend chase, events or survival drop. While you hide behind your strongest group and receive like 5 per month because it take turn for everyone. Good luck surviving when your server get merge, I'd love to be merge with your server later.
I do it because I can and I have a plan. After 1 month now we're sitting at lv 6 group skills a.k.a 30 level already, not to mention I told my members to stop donate for like 2 weeks because 8 gates inner fuction was out. What make you think we can't process more than that in the future?
It's just you being a coward doesn't mean it's the *est idea.

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