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On 2016-11-27 13:34:38Show All Posts
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Gather some strong players, like 10 including yourself and make a new group for resource gain.
At first it maybe rough because you will lose your power because group skill is gone and you have to build your group from scratch. But as time go you guys can enjoy your free packs everyweek also give more chances to people who stay at your original group to get packs.
It's a win win for everyone, when the merge come you guys may just disband and go back to your original group.
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On 2016-11-27 15:04:36Show All Posts
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  • GrimDarkstar On 2016-11-27 14:22:54
  • that really doesn't fix the problem if 54 people can play in the great ninja war why not up the packs to at least 15, the 5 scroll pack is a good idea, your way is not indicative of a team player your suppose to help your group mates not cut and run so you get better reward
It will fix a lot of problems. Tell me exactly what benefit from stay in a crowded group and need to wait month for pack? All I can see are :
1. Power because more people, more group fund to upgrade group skill.
2. 5k group points everyweek assume that you win all the fights.
3. So you can be called a winner in GNW.

And that's all. A bunch of people who do not dare to stand out then cry about no competition in GNW and beg for merge. While if you dare to stand on your own there are benefit :
1. You can get packs everyweek.
2. Since you and some other members left your old group it's mean they has less people => easy to obtain packs for them too.
3. Creat competitive environment.
4. Test your limit.

I'm not talking nonsense. Take me as example : I was a member of the strongest group in my server. We never lose any GNW fight and forced our rival group core members to rage quit and ran to another server. But after awhile I feel bored because just like you guys I don't see any competition, I don't see any goal. Also my old group is using the gnw point bet system for packs which I find not fit my taste. So I left with a few members to build my own group. After 1 first week of preparation now we get packs everyweek and I can proudly say we're the second strongest in the server (We has 6 groups). I lose 4k power after that, I suffer greatly in other activities like sage, matsuri, world boss where I normally can get full rewards (seals, coin, exp) but it can be fix with your group effort. Now my group skill is lv 6 after 1 month, I start to gain seal from sage, matsuri again. Be able to stand toe to toe with a p2w player who has 5k power gap, etc... In short, I'm doing fine and my members are also doing fine collecting our free packs everyweek from now on. Also be able to crush people who stay in strong group but dont get seals in the future when the merge hit us.

Everyone get rewards for attend GNW. It's group points. All important stuff can be buy with group points. For now it's Deidara, Kisame, Med Refine. Later it will be Konan, Sage Jiraiya, Sage Naruto, etc... So I don't see any reason to increase the number of packs anymore.
You want extra rewards? Stand up and make it happen. High risk high reward. Instead of posting this on forum because it won't help. This is not the first thread about this problem but do you see any change come from the dev? No, adapt to the flow and grow strong.
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On 2016-11-27 17:15:25Show All Posts
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  • Beji On 2016-11-27 16:37:53
  • I would love to have more GNW packs to distribute. My group is a rather large one on my server. We always have 54 participants with the exception of maybe the first round on Wednesday. The trouble becomes when you win the GNW you only have 9 packs to distribute instead of 10 that the second place has. And when you have 54 participants that breaks down to 1 pack every six weeks. A lot of my members are selfless and have given up receiving packs so that others can get them more often. But why is this the case? Why not have the amount of packs you receive go up depending on group level? When you have 110 members 9 packs just ain't gonna cover that.

    And of course we could do as some have suggested on this thread and split up and Take L's to get packs more often. But I ain't about that life, I ain't never been about that life. I'm not bringing this up for my benefit because I never take GNW packs, but I plead for my members who bust their asses to be the best only to get shafted in the end because they are the best. I don't mean that to sound arrogant either, I just think that hard work doesn't deserve to take a back seat to someone taking an L so that they can get packs weekly. Maybe I am the only one who feels that way, but I don't think that I am. This post was last edited by Beji at 2016-11-27 16:39
Just for you know the one who take L is the one who work hardest. Because we barely got 10 members and all suffered from power lost. We have to work our asses up to recover from that, not to mention to actually get improve. 1m2 coins per day from all members to the group fund mean we can't actually improve anything for over the past month, we are just recover while people stay in strong group can improve themself easily.
I dont think those who stay in large group are hard workers. At least when you compare them to people who break out and stand on their own.
Like I said everyone get rewards, it's group points. Packs are just extra rewards for the strongest and contributed a lot for the group. They let the leader distribute packs manually for reasons.
Some will left to take risk and gain more. Some will stay just to have an easily life. It's fair. If someone choose an easy way they need to wait longer than others who took it the hard way.
Again, packs are just extra rewards and no reason to increase the extra rewards.
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On 2016-11-27 20:31:52Show All Posts
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  • Beji On 2016-11-27 19:00:09
  • I don't think that people who stay in smaller groups work harder but that is just my opinion so let's agree to disagree. Speaking from experience tho, I see my people sacrifice for our team more often then not. And we are okay with getting less packs. That being said just because someone is okay with a burden doesn't mean they should have to be. Like tolerating a broken pinky finger for example "Yeah this broken pinky finger *s but I'm okay with it." But at the end of the day you don't want that broken pinky finger.

    When people have left my group to attain more packs we see that as greed and it's not looked at very well. But just to point something out, speaking objectively, what you say about group contributions could be viewed at in the same light as how you view GNW packs for large groups. That being said, I understand your point of view.

    But atleast the people in my group, they are always trying to get stronger and there is one or two other groups on my server that have people as hard working and dedicated as my members. And they aren't small groups. I'm sure the small ones work hard as well so I'm not trying to turn this conversation into a * contest.

    I'm just saying when you get 1st place in GNW you shouldn't have only 9 GNW packs to distribute. At the very least you should have 10. I know one of them technically goes to the leader for first place but all that contains is a title. And you say its easy being in a big (competitive group), IMO its a hell of a lot easier just to show up to GNW and take an L.
You didn't consider other activities aren't you? You think it's easy just to break out and show up to get packs while people actually need fight to win. Yes I can manipulate the result and I order my members to lose on purpose sometime to make sure we get the 2nd place for best rewards. At the same time we're trying our best to beat the strongest group. We set it as a goal and the strongest also has a goal to defend their throne. It's created a win-win situation for the server.
It's need calculation to run a small group with just 10 members, we can recruit more but I refuse to do that. Because there won't be enough packs for everyone and I don't want anyone in my group to feel unsatisfied after a rough week. It's not easy as you think it is to run that kind of group.
And it's not just GNW alone you need to see it in a wider view. Sage battlefield, Matsuri, World boss will be a lot harder for people who stay in small group. But if we can keep up in the long run it will reward us.

It's easy to make a ghost group, show up knowing they will lose and not trying anything, get crushed in all other activities. But it's not easy to stand on your own and help your members stay competitive. This post was last edited by Kouka at 2016-11-27 19:48
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On 2016-11-30 13:50:58Show All Posts
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  • On 2016-11-29 15:07:24
  • by far the *est idea ever. did u know group skills are the most important feature of all? u are saying u are willing to let go of lv35+ group skills to lv1 and donate all your coins again to that new group for contribution, just for 5 seal scrolls? losing so much
Sorry I did let go a lv 9 group with 45 group skills to do that.
We take turn to receive different packs. Average all my members received 20+ packs/month just from GNW alone. Didn't count sage, matsuri, weekend chase, events or survival drop. While you hide behind your strongest group and receive like 5 per month because it take turn for everyone. Good luck surviving when your server get merge, I'd love to be merge with your server later.
I do it because I can and I have a plan. After 1 month now we're sitting at lv 6 group skills a.k.a 30 level already, not to mention I told my members to stop donate for like 2 weeks because 8 gates inner fuction was out. What make you think we can't process more than that in the future?
It's just you being a coward doesn't mean it's the *est idea.

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On 2016-12-01 08:03:35Show All Posts
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  • Fiyuri On 2016-12-01 01:55:05
  • would be nice if everyone participating would get seal scrolls in the mail every step of the way.
    Participated once? ok here's ONE Seal Scroll + some group victories(+win/loss)
    Participated twice? ok here's ANOTHER Seal Scroll + some group victories(+win/loss)
    three times? oh! you get TWO Seal Scrolls now! + above ^
    four times? very nice! you get THREE Seal Scrolls! + above ^
    5times?! You deserve another THREE Seal Scroll! + above ^

    lol of course it should include some refine runes there and stuff....but if we had something like that would be easier on the leaders that have a lot of players that join in the GNW. Leaders wouldn't be blamed because Xmember didn't get Seal Scrolls this week. Everyone could get something. 70 people join? they were all able to participate 3times? they all get 4 Seal Scrolls :O total of 280 seals!!
    50 people...all able to participate all 5 times...won/lost they all get 10 seal scrolls! :O total of 500 seals~
    Of course this would mean groups have to build up their power so they can participate more but this also means that EVERYONE has a chance at getting SOME Seal Scrolls every week.

    Personally I don't struggle as much because I give them out based on the weekly participation per person. Alts get no seals UNLESS that week we had very few people in the GNW.
    If you participate 4-5 times then you are guaranteed a Seal Pack. 3 times? and you get one after all the people that helped 4-5 fights in GNW. 2times? don't ask for seals :(
    New person participating in 4-5 fights for the first time = Legendary Pack(idc about power lvl, usually donates some)
If that is the case then each player can get 40 seals/month just from GNW alone and believe me none publisher or dev want that to happen. Seal scroll is expensive for reasons, they will NEVER give out that for free or that easily.
That also reason why they only give 10 packs because if they give out too much even just like 2 seals per member who participate GNW. That's 8 seals per member/month and now multiply it to every active players in your server. They will be like : "nahhhhhhhhh"
People rarely buy seal scrolls from them already, so give out more free seal scrolls won't be good for their business. Don't ask for impossible thing like that. If be forced they will just delete the packs and screw all of us. Everyone get reward for GNW like I said it's points, packs are just extra rewards and believe me delete the extra reward is easier than creat a lot more extra reward for everyone.
But I heard they are discussing about increase the number of packs after server merge. That maybe the case. This post was last edited by Kouka at 2016-12-1 07:16
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