Oh I agree one hundred percent. They should make it so only Seniors and Leaders can place people and know where everyone is placed.

Make it so there is a giant list on the side and the leaders and seniors click the name to the land in question. This removes spying. If you can't trust your seniors who can you trust?

One should not have to do the last ten second change up. If spying is ok, then allow a caught spy to have permanent player death or some terrible fate happen to them.

Yes, and then we should have the chance to punish spying other than kicking them out. Like a 2 day ban on the account in the other group.

Instead of saying how to get around spies (Not only failing at trying to fix it) Explain why having a blank screen and the Seniors and Leaders can move people around is a bad thing?

It gives everyone a fair chance and by the way I'm level 72 with over 31k power. Some groups will never win unless they get lucky with who they place in certain locations.

A majority of people who are saying spying is ok... I bet you are in the dominant group of your server right? So spying doesn't matter.

And spies can be permanently killed off or arrested and exiled for years. Your point?

So what would the problem be to make it so only seniors and leaders see and move people around? Nothing.

Any people not allocated would be randomly placed. (Gotta love auto) And it may not bother YOU but what is your group called?

And by the way my group that I am in-- is the dominant group in the server. We don't lose. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't implement things that prevent others from having fun. How many people leave because they feel they can't win because of spies. More than you care to admit.

And spies when caught are killed? Are we allowed to permanently kill a character? Mmmkay. Stop using a logical fallacy to try and prove a point.

Spoken like someone who is in the dominant group of the server, where it doesn't matter if the spy is relaying information. But in the op's server his group can win if the tactics are aligned correctly. Each server has their own problems.

What may not be a problem for you could be a very serious and server destructive problems.

1) Banning players is not absurd (Perception and Opinion)
4) Limiting vision of lower ranked members and removing vision would reduce the amount of people willing to join by some degree (Speculation, could very well increase it as it would prevent spying and thus create a more level playing field.)

If you consider removing spying to be ruining the gameplay then once again opinion.

How is spying mandatory function of gameplay? Please answer that one.

Everyone gets 9 packs.

If you bothered to read my previous posts, I am in agreement with you. I have no idea why you were quoting me.

And condoning is reprehensible. Next.

Does not promote competition that is just a perception. Spying has ruined servers, based on mutliple accounts saying it has. Yes, Anecdotal evidence but the same evidence that it promotes competition is anecdotal. But how does Spying promote competition? If you took spying out would there still be competition? In fact there would be MORE competition rather than less.

Don't try and claim your opinion as fact. You never answered the question though. Nice deflection by the way

(( How does spying promote competition that is normally not there normally? )) You can't answer that one without subverting your position.

We all line up anyways, the competition will always be there. Oh, and what exactly would be the problem if Seniors/Leader are the only one's who can see the board and place people? If you answer is catering to laziness then you are part of the problem on why there is toxic nature in the game and why people will leave. They get pressed into losing conditions over and over and so they leave. By the time you get to the point where Spying is useless they are already the dominate group in the server. If you check the server where I belong. We don't lose, it doesn't matter how many spies they send.

But as per the Op's story, which until prove otherwise is legitimate. We have to take into account the toxic community destroying nature of spying. Spying doesn't build a community to game on.

You may like to see where you are getting paired with but since people have abused this function for so long, people are speaking up. Ever thought of why there is so much server bleed is because of the toxic nature of spying? Close games lost because someone passed on information that should never have been passed on.

If they did condone spying there would be an in game mechanic that had a chance of failure.

Ah the logical fallacy of bandwagon.

Which you deflected from the question on the toxic nature of spying.

You also avoided the question how does it promote competition that is not there normally.

And you answered with laziness and thus contributes to the toxic nature of spying in the game. You say it would be laziness and why exactly would it be laziness? Please defend your statement. The competition is still being done, it is not like people won't go into the GNW if they don't have all the knowledge beforehand.

Also Hilarious

how does it promote competition that is not there normally.


Here allow me to break it down easier for you on what you are NOT answering.
So if there were no spies how would it effect GNW, would it be any different overall?

So nothing would change other than it would remove spying which is a toxic act. Just saying.

You call it an easy way out, but people have left the game because of it. I call it a way to help stop the bleeding of the community. Nothing helps the community more like the ability to not trust people right?

Equating easy way out with a moral code, I see what you did there...

I call that making the game more user friendly and to stop some of the toxic nature of the GNW. You know so people don't leave the game with disgust.