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On 2016-11-19 20:27:26Show All Posts
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  • On 2016-11-19 19:28:40
  • This isn't about me taking a loss personally like it seems to be the assumption. I'm angry that my group has to resort to having to counter act this kind of garbage in the first place. When your on your high horse of "Well we win every time" crap it just makes you look arrogant and clearly miss the entire point of why spys are a * bag "tactic" in the first place. Wait till your group is under someone else's boot every week then tell me how I had no reason to get angry. Until your in that position you have no idea how aggravating it is to watch people just quit cause there is no way to compete with a trust fund kid with cheat codes. The spy crap shouldn't be just accepted as part of the game and by saying yeah we have spys in other groups you know you just openly admitted to cheating in the game on the forums of which they have mods and your account is tied to right? So if the mods turn this over for it to be looked into you not only screwed your self but your group as well. Just a bit of thought for you while your on that high horse.
Of course, this isn't about you taking a loss personally. I did not imply anything about that. Nobody said that. I wondered why you are being so defensive, since I'm just suggesting solutions for you.

You assume that I am on my "imaginary high horse" about winning, which you also assume that it makes me look arrogant, but you also missed that I used it to proved my point that these "*bag" spies tactics and counter-spies strategies works. I try to tell you that to improve your chance of winning, you should use spies, but if you don't, then it's up to you. However, you will be the one continue losing, because this tactic is used in every servers, every games, and every regions ever. Also, I know that my accounts and forums are tied, thanks for caring. I'm not scared to admit the usage of tactic that I deemed to be acceptable.

If you want the spy tactic to be unacceptable, then why are you making this "anyone have any ideas to solve this problem" topic? Go on and make a thread about spying is unacceptable in suggestion forums. Anyway, if you really feel that offended to my words and my suggestions, I'll just go away, since you are so defensive and so prideful about not using these "*my" tactics against people who used it against you. At the very end, your so-called "pride" of not counter-acting and doing nothing will be your own fall.
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On 2016-11-19 21:42:05Show All Posts
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  • On 2016-11-19 21:29:05
  • Ok the spy thing might be easy for you and your group to deal with cause I'd guess your in a large group on a fairly populated server with more then 3 people over level 80 and have close to 80 members? Smaller groups have no chance against people who spend a ton of money and the only thing they have going for them in the way of a fair fight is the war set ups. So when your already down cause the cash cowboys flock together and have to cheat on top of that. Your fighting a loosing battle and I really don't see how that's so hard to understand unless you have never been in that spot. Clearly I'am not alone in this based off other responses.Send in a spy of your own isn't a valid tactic that free to play players c*e. I'm one of the strongest people on my server in the top 5 actually. There is only one group that have ran the server from day one and the only loss they have was to my group. Shortly after is when the spy crap started and the fact that the other top 4 people on my server are all in one group and drop insane amounts of money like yesterday pulled all three of the kazakage people in a row in less then 5 mins. Now explain to me why a group that over powered needs to cheat. There is only 3 groups in gnw every week on this server cause people have just quit over the spys and in short fighting a battle they can not possibly hope to win with the only weapon they had taken away. Im not trying to pick a fight just more interested in the logic you are using and how sending in a spy of your own would work in that case.
Thanks for clarifying, your current situation is now understandable. I agree and sympathize with most of what you said, however I have some of my own opinions.

Why do overpowered groups need to use spy
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On 2016-11-19 22:53:35Show All Posts
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  • On 2016-11-19 22:19:18
  • I had 30 people in my group for the last war which almost filled the slot lowest levels are other members alts at around 70. We had beat this group on several occasions for the qualifiers and flat out beat them one time for war with less people then I have now we practily doubled in numbers. Now that fallowing week we had a spy enter and has been a thorn in my side since. My group has only got stronger so its not a issue of power its a issue of placement. I have one 3 man team that will whip the crap out of there top 3 guys hands down forming a pain wall with tendo being the crowning jewel of it. That's how we beat them was tactics and working together as a group. So when your only weapon against that kind of money is taken away cause of a spy and that group boots people who cant meet the cash requirements they become god on the server. They effective nutter the spy system and over power everyone and still cheat to boot so its a seal clubbing every war when they can avoid the guys that beat them. That's why I get so angry over spies and the fact that I am one of the only 5 people on the server not in that group over level 80 I take the cheating my guys out of a fair fight more seriously. I could understand losing if it was just a power issue but obviously that's not the case. Cause 30+ people over level 70 shouldn't get destroyed every week and the only level 80 in the group is tracked like a hawk and forced to fight every other level 80 at once EVERY TIME. This crap and that group has turned a once full server into a ghost town.We only have 3 groups in gnw now so we have no choice but to face them every week and my group is the only one strong enough and active enough to do anything. The only hope that server has is the devs make to where only the top 3 people see the set ups,ban spies or the server is dead and people get boned out of the money and time they invested into it.
Then it should be even more effective for you to use counter-spy tactic. You can see what they are placing, and you just avoid their strong players or matched them with your strongest.

Although did you stack your players on 10/8/7 fields? If you won those 3 fields, you'd win regardless since all them combined give high points. Another solution is to weed out spies. If you know your members well, it would not be hard to rid the spies out.

Other than that, I still support my own point that counter-spy tactics will be the best for you now, considering you can beat top players with your combos. Just match your combos on their fields. You c*so tricked them by placing your teams carelessly while changing at last 10 seconds or so to match them.
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On 2016-11-19 23:30:53Show All Posts
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  • On 2016-11-19 23:04:35
  • They more or less have the server on lock cause no one can keep up with there demands money wise. and on a server so small if we merg groups one more time it will basicly make the server pointless. I guess we just have to accept the server is on its last leg and were just stuck pushing the car up hill until server merg and hope the cash cowboys join.
If you said that there is nothing you can do, then the only thing you can do to react is to kick the spies. Put minimum requirements or some sort to the group to effectively label alts and spies, then kick them. My group uses minimum donation and overall online time to divide spies from normal members. If you talked a lot with your members, this shouldn't be much of a problem, I think.
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