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On 2016-11-07 07:34:03Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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The Arena need some real balanceing work, i'm tired of fighting people who have one or 2 more stars than me, thats easily 15% more stats in all areas...they need it to balance out on stars not levels
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On 2016-11-07 07:36:51Show this Author Only
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The arena matchmaking is more or less balanced of your arena rank even if you are waiting in a q if you are higher rank you are unlikely to meet weaker players unless there is absolutely noone else in the q. That tends to work pretty well overall.
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On 2016-11-07 08:40:55Show this Author Only
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  • Belerephon On 2016-11-07 07:36:51
  • The arena matchmaking is more or less balanced of your arena rank even if you are waiting in a q if you are higher rank you are unlikely to meet weaker players unless there is absolutely noone else in the q. That tends to work pretty well overall.
I find this to be very untrue. I have like 4500 grade points into Six Path Sannin, and yet if I wait for more then about a minute, I tend to get matched with far lower levels then me. I hate getting matched against people that are ranked Student with 1/2 star Team 7. I feel like a bully.

I will say, that even against 1 or 2 star Team 7, with the Arena 'balancing' things, they still can hurt if used correctly. But lets face it, they don't have the control the later team comps offer, and even if I don't use any skills, my team combo's so well, can causes so much damage/debuffs/control that there is nothing their team can do about it.


On the flip side, even being able to match with players of lower ranked, some times the wait time is way to long (10+ minutes) for a match that requires you to sit there and start at the match making screen the whole time. I'm even on Server 2, so I know I don't have the problem alot of other people have on newer/less used servers.

Anyways, all and all, I think there needs to be some tweaks to the system, mostly the match making.
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On 2016-11-07 08:46:28Show this Author Only
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This will most likely be resolved once servers are merged .
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On 2016-11-07 08:47:41Show this Author Only
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the thing is people jsut dont do arena that much, they do their daily's and stop. It would be impossible to for them to match people based on ninja stars. Once u get that high in rank u will only get someone if they have waited for like 5 mins. I had to queue my second account vs myself casue no one does arena....
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On 2016-11-07 08:50:02Show this Author Only
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  • Varz On 2016-11-07 08:47:41
  • the thing is people jsut dont do arena that much, they do their daily's and stop. It would be impossible to for them to match people based on ninja stars. Once u get that high in rank u will only get someone if they have waited for like 5 mins. I had to queue my second account vs myself casue no one does arena....
Yes arena is just not very interesting at the moment. We dont have any of the arena features like China for examples where they get trial ninja for a week in arena based on their rank to try out etc.I personally hate doing arena and dont even finish the 3 daily for quest as long as i got my arena points.
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On 2016-11-07 08:55:15Show this Author Only
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Exactly, i do my daily get my coins done and thats all. After getting six path there is nothing to do in arena, sometimes soem group mates queue up to test our teams when even but thats it
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On 2016-11-07 10:13:00Show this Author Only
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Actually starts don't matter in terms of stats, just in terms of skills. In Arena 2 star Hinata has exact same stats as 5 star one.

The biggest advantage is having lvl 55 for third passive and access to summons, the only way to fix it is level lock Arena so it only unlocks after 55.
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On 2016-12-11 02:01:30Show this Author Only
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Would it be better if they pit us against people in the same Arena rank? Since people want to get the Arena awards, I doubt they would lose on purpose to stay in the lower ranks. And adding an AI could better help test ninja teams than going against another player who is possibly stronger than you.
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On 2016-12-11 13:13:56Show this Author Only
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  • Natsu Scarlet On 2016-12-11 02:01:30
  • Would it be better if they pit us against people in the same Arena rank? Since people want to get the Arena awards, I doubt they would lose on purpose to stay in the lower ranks. And adding an AI could better help test ninja teams than going against another player who is possibly stronger than you.
Ranks doesn't matter one bit, just your ninja pool (and your level, up to 55). A lv 55 ptw with some rare ninjas at student level can easily * a lv 85 at 3 star six path if the latter doesn't have rare ninjas of his own(thou somewhat unlikely at that point)
At the same time, if a lv 70s only do the arena daily quest and missions, he might be of lower rank than someone who is 60 but actively climb arena but is stronger due to better collection of ninja.

The fact that people have to do the annoying arena missions also mean that many will be running around with sub-optimal teams, that can be taken advantage of if you wish to climb.

55 is what you need to be, both because main char summon/skill and also your collection toward the standard ninja sets. Generally speaking getting all ninja to 3 star to access their upgraded versions, where applicable, is all you need on that aspect.
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On 2016-12-11 14:29:35Show this Author Only
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Arena queue work like this :
In the first 60 seconds you will looking for someone who has closest rank point compare to you.
After 60 seconds you will be match with ANYONE at ANYRANK.
So if there are only you and a ninja student queue at the same time. Congratz you will meet him for sure after 60s. There is nothing wrong with the queue system.
The problem are there is no goal to do arena
- After you get to sage of six path there is no use to trying in arena.
- Few thousands exp daily? Meh I can pass that and still leveling fine.
- Arena shop sux. Itachi is good but only when skill book come.
- I can just make a clone, stack 8 arena missions and fini* all in couple minutes every 4 days.

What they need to do is revamp arena reward, give players a purpose to do it daily. If they reset ranking rewards everyweek believe me you will get match with people around 10 seconds of queue at anytime. Who doesnt love coupon?
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On 2016-12-14 02:50:04Show this Author Only
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  • PraiseLuka On 2016-12-11 13:13:56
  • Ranks doesn't matter one bit, just your ninja pool (and your level, up to 55). A lv 55 ptw with some rare ninjas at student level can easily * a lv 85 at 3 star six path if the latter doesn't have rare ninjas of his own(thou somewhat unlikely at that point)
    At the same time, if a lv 70s only do the arena daily quest and missions, he might be of lower rank than someone who is 60 but actively climb arena but is stronger due to better collection of ninja.

    The fact that people have to do the annoying arena missions also mean that many will be running around with sub-optimal teams, that can be taken advantage of if you wish to climb.

    55 is what you need to be, both because main char summon/skill and also your collection toward the standard ninja sets. Generally speaking getting all ninja to 3 star to access their upgraded versions, where applicable, is all you need on that aspect.
I'm not ptw, so I don't have many rare ninjas. So it all depends if someone is stronger than me or not.
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