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On 2016-10-27 19:41:29 ｜ Show this Author Only ｜ Descending Order

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I'm curious how who goes first is determined. I have higher refines than most of the people I go against and will be 10 levels higher than someone yet they continually go first. Even if I'm matched up against a team the same as mine. Buying refines is starting to look like a waste of money. Several youtube videos on this game even point out that someone with level 5 refines still goes before someone with level 8 and 9 refines. Is this a bug? is something happening I'm not aware of? I've tested it against a level 65 Fire main both teams setup the same in formation and he has 0 refines and yet he still goes before me. Someone please explain to me what's going on. It's pointless to spend money on this game if all it does is boost bp without any of the other advantages that are supposed to be there.

Main character: Level 69 Scarlet Blaze
Refine Level: All are 5+
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UchihaHenkk

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On 2016-10-27 20:15:06 ｜ Show this Author Only

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If you have higher initiative you go first when you're in the same move position. Is this on Survival trial? because its different there.

Rin kagura

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On 2016-10-27 20:58:01 ｜ Show this Author Only

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if your move 2 and they are move 1 they go faster if your too slow to click skills they go faster simple

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On 2016-10-27 22:07:18 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Rin kagura On 2016-10-27 20:58:01
if your move 2 and they are move 1 they go faster if your too slow to click skills they go faster simple

That's the thing, I spam the hotkey and am move 1 most of the time. That's the thing that gets me. It's not as simple as being in the wrong movement order most of the time.

Daiske

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On 2016-10-27 22:30:34 ｜ Show this Author Only

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On 2016-10-27 22:07:18
That's the thing, I spam the hotkey and am move 1 most of the time. That's the thing that gets me. It's not as simple as being in the wrong movement order most of the time.

Is your mystery skill prompt skill ?

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On 2016-10-27 22:38:30 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Daiske On 2016-10-27 22:30:34
Is your mystery skill prompt skill ?

Dragon Flame Jutsu (Prompt) as well as Sasuke 3* skill. Sasuke seems to have a bit better luck. I've tried both configurations in putting them both in the one and two slots for testing with the same result. Going first against people with similar power could be the difference between Victory and Defeat which is why it's so frustrating.

Daiske

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On 2016-10-27 22:45:50 ｜ Show this Author Only

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On 2016-10-27 22:38:30
Dragon Flame Jutsu (Prompt) as well as Sasuke 3* skill. Sasuke seems to have a bit better luck. I've tried both configurations in putting them both in the one and two slots for testing with the same result. Going first against people with similar power could be the difference between Victory and Defeat which is why it's so frustrating.

It is on Survival Trial ?

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On 2016-10-27 22:50:44 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Survival Trial and still prominent on pvp such as plunder, sage etc though to a slightly lesser extent if that makes sense.

Daiske

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On 2016-10-27 22:52:14 ｜ Show this Author Only

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On 2016-10-27 22:50:44
Survival Trial and still prominent on pvp such as plunder, sage etc though to a slightly lesser extent if that makes sense.

Well .. and what is the difference between opponents Battle armor and your armor ?

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On 2016-10-27 23:04:49 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Daiske On 2016-10-27 22:52:14
Well .. and what is the difference between opponents Battle armor and your armor ?

My BA is rank 3 with Total upgrade level of 16. Besides myself and the other top 3 on my server they are all rank 2 and below. Most of the people don't bother with battle armor on my server since most are free to play players that can't get through Strong Approaching without serious help for the top players. I've carried plenty through SA. I'm in the top 4 of my server constantly battling for 3rd between another. That's why I said with my refines and battle armor it doesn't make sense. I constantly hear people on my server complaining of the same thing. It's not just an isolated occurrence.

demigod543

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On 2016-11-05 22:14:24 ｜ Show this Author Only

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i agree wonder why we are both disame refines and ninjas yet he always come 1st in Matsuri and Sage war and im higher lvl than him im lvl 69 and hes lvl 67 i have higher magatamas than him it really makes me wonder he always beat me in pvp coz he always come 1st.

With this setup

ronaldfranklint

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On 2016-11-05 22:27:16 ｜ Show this Author Only

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demigod543 On 2016-11-05 22:14:24
i agree wonder why we are both disame refines and ninjas yet he always come 1st in Matsuri and Sage war and im higher lvl than him im lvl 69 and hes lvl 67 i have higher magatamas than him it really makes me wonder he always beat me in pvp coz he always come 1st.

With this setup

His battle armour is probably better. Can you provide pictures of both yours and his refines?

demigod543

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On 2016-11-05 22:30:08 ｜ Show this Author Only

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hes battle armor is rank 2 and mine is rank 3

Daiske

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On 2016-11-05 22:32:13 ｜ Show this Author Only

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demigod543 On 2016-11-05 22:14:24
i agree wonder why we are both disame refines and ninjas yet he always come 1st in Matsuri and Sage war and im higher lvl than him im lvl 69 and hes lvl 67 i have higher magatamas than him it really makes me wonder he always beat me in pvp coz he always come 1st.

With this setup

It also depends on your and his position.

demigod543

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On 2016-11-05 22:33:55 ｜ Show this Author Only

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we use disame ninjas and position read my 1st post its stated there

ronaldfranklint

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On 2016-11-05 22:37:11 ｜ Show this Author Only

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So your ninjas are the same as his? Can you provide me a picture of his gear, his positioning and his ninjas please?

demigod543

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On 2016-11-05 23:12:47 ｜ Show this Author Only

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disame ninjas and position

ronaldfranklint

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On 2016-11-05 23:19:57 ｜ Show this Author Only

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No but I want to see his lineup and what ninjas he uses. As well, pictures of his refines. Just because h e has Earth main doesn't mean he doesn't have higher refines or better placements.

Daiske

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On 2016-11-06 05:07:34 ｜ Show this Author Only

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demigod543 On 2016-11-05 22:33:55
we use disame ninjas and position read my 1st post its stated there

You stated : "we are both disame refines and ninjas yet he always come 1st in Matsuri and Sage war and im higher lvl than him im lvl 69 and hes lvl 67 i have higher magatamas"

There is no information about his or yours position.

Could you screen for me all of yours and his refines. Magatamas are not important since they are not deciding who is going to attack as first.

demigod543

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On 2016-11-06 05:18:49 ｜ Show this Author Only

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Like i said we use disame ninjas and refine are disame and my battle armor is advance than him...
is its hard to understand because we planned it to test about initiative we make disame setup but difference is my battle armor is advance than him but why he always come first???

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