Both of these formations are PVE only, they wouldn't stand a chance in pvp. Your main combo starters in these formations are : Main , Kakasi or Sasuke. First of all Sasuke needs a barrier first and you have no guarantee the enemy wont overlap your barrier with one. 2nd. You have no mistery combo starters on Position one in the formation , so the enemy will always hit first regardless of ur initiative. 3rd. Having Kankuro's summon to tank makes him a liability for the next round. And trust me, you ain't one shooting anything in round 1 with that team.