if you talking about me yeah im a hater for pointing the obvious :L

if you disable the earth main the shield doesn't matter and scarlet blaze can do it by its own and if he has chars to help with that its even worse,he does way too much damage for a ninja that can interupt so much here is the top from the most op mains to those not so op:
1:Scarlet Blaze 2:Crimson Fist 3:Midnight Blade 4:Breeze Dance 5:Azure Fang
anyway I'll stop arguing with you guys until I get banned or something lol
This post was last edited by We*er at 2016-10-15 22:43 This post was last edited by We*er at 2016-10-15 22:44

Go look at top level players on any server on CN and you'll see them playing Earth.

This is a L2P issue on your end.

Sleep only stops him if the fire main is faster and in the same lane. If the earth main is faster he get;s his shield off first and the sleep is not nearly as good. Any healer or someone that removes debuffs will also remove it before the next round.

Fire mains Mystery can be interrupted and he will most likely be in place #3 or #4 if he takes it over his good combo starter so It's very easy to counter him. You where talking about buying Iruka, get him he is very good for this.

As was said earlier, cleanser in team counters fire main, and we have plenty of those guys, all mains have their weaknesses, I personally dislike Earth because I do lots of Survival, and I care about doing Survival the most... Earth is the biggest nuisance for me there.

I also find Lght mains annoying, since I play around comboing a lot, and have squishy ninja in the back. He paralizes, and goes after lowest HP characters, with 3xstandard attack.

All mains have their perks, with Breeze Dancer being now the most underused.

but if I get a healer in my earth team I will lose a lot of damage that earth class lacks of..this is why im saying there's no real way to counter fire as earth,tried and I lose a lot of damage to sacrifice one of my chars with a healer

Damage isn't everything you know, if you survive longer you can do more damage than you would if you were to survive 2 rounds.

Look at any other game, most of the time their metas are focused around tanks because surviving longer means more damage dealt.

Earth is clearly better.

Fire main is definetly too OP. I mean 2 controls in 1 round. I hate when im matched against him :)

Fire main is far better early game and then loses out as people get further. He is only far better when he has a modest power lead because he is built around nukes. Earth isn't meant to do damage if you don't have that power lead, he is meant to stall, just like water. Anyone who says any one class is broken is just bad at the game as a whole. If you can't find a single way to beat one of the main characters on equal footing just because of the skillset they are using then you are doing something wrong.

Also, can we listen to We*er and just have him removed from forums. It's pretty annoying seeing him in EVERY single post whining about something. -_-

Let the kid gain some attention yo.... he needs it. :lol

i agree on fire main is annoying but i don t think he is that op.

if fire main is a main dealer, its not that hard to deal with but if fire main is a support, its kinda hard to win against.

I do understand, it can be annoying at times especially if you doing a mirror match but they aren't difficult to deal with. Now when facing a Midnight Blade, beware of the Root of Warrior for you may have to hope your team can survive the two rounds the opponent sword-bearing ninja are immune. So reflecting a debuff during those two rounds may be utterly pointless if it lands on a sword-bearing ninja. Crimson Fist, it's all depends if I can either A. break through his shield and do high damage, thus taking him out before he shield again or B. out last him which I am capable of doing with a team with no healer. His Steel Body is annoying though. Azure Fang, her heals are annoying. Like seriously, half the time it takes me longer to beat an AF team than a CF team because of all the heals. Luckily I can reflect back the first chaos back but if another ninja uses a debuff before AF, well, someone on my team is getting chaos. Breeze Dancer, I have a higher win ratio against this class than anything else. It's all depending on what team they use. Now a BD, Konan, Animal Path, and 1 other ninja is trouble. Because Konan will shield herself and Animal Path while BD shields all three of them with her Flower Guard. And Scarlet Blaze, it all depends on who get's their Debuff off first. After that, it's really about how your team is built. Just make sure SB doesn't sleep your Main or seal them.