Well fighting against an earth...not shocked at all

still this just proves how broken that class is compared to others,earth is not as broken,he just have that shield that is not so hard to deal with,it just only take a long time to defeat him but fire is super broken

Try this team when you get the chance and you will see how broken earth main can be.

http://i.imgur.com/ODvI8gd.png

dont make me slap you with some broken fire teams please :P

Fire is really not that hard to deal with... You simply 2HKO him with combos, nothing more to it. Only really high power Scarlet will survive that, and even if, 3rd is a guaranteed kill

Earth Main on the other hand, has a shield that sometimes reached 25k health... No way this is "not that hard to deal with"

duh earth only has that shield and nothing else when fire has so many things you have to deal with,what's the point of you dealing high damage when you get disabled,once idk how but a fire managed to disable all my chars in first round so ggwp,it doesn't matter your damage if this happens.

So what if you are disabled? Earth, Fire, Lght, all of those can disable opponents without problem.

Also, strong armor, and the passive that disables any damage to your shield first round kinda is a problem too ;p

Fire Main CAN'T start combos with his standard attack, that is a huge disadvantage that nobody seems to notice... only his crappy taijutsu attack can start a combo, and nobody uses it.

If Fire disables all chars in one round, it is probably a lineup about Itachi Ningendo Ino, or sth like that. Again, all mains can manage that with appropriate lineups.

Why do you think 90% of top players abandoned Fire main to switch to Earth and Lght?

earth can only interupt not disable and no one use that interupt in pvp because its not that good,idk on my server most people are fire and they doing good idk what you talking about when saying that just because he cant start a combo with his normal attack is disatvantage but the opposite,the standard attacks that cant start combo have other advatages like sleep and the other skill can attack through imunity and he also causes repulse.
Attacks the front enemy and has a chance of Quintuple Combo and .
Attack all the front enemies and has a chance of .
Attack front enemy and cause . The skill is not subject to the defense skills of opponent.
so you want the sleep to also start a combo?give me a break
if position right with fire main you can beat anyone even stronger players,and im not the only one that says scarlet blaze its not overpowered
the second standard skill of fire main c*so go through ninja imunity and cause repulse to start combo
you say there's nothing to nerf yet all his skills are insane
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You can't target with your sleep, which really minimalizes it's usefulness. I am not saying that it is not useful, but not as useful as it could be.

Fire is now 3rd least and most used on S1 from what I see. Earth is most used, Lght is second.

I am not the only one who says Earth is overpowered as well. Fire Main does almost nothing without Tobi or p2w characters. And with Tobi is easy to counter...

All mains are overpowered after 4th skills are released, so I fail to see the problem xD

I fail to see your point,you keep saying that and trying to prove he is not broken but you lying to yourself making the other chars sound more overpowered than they really are,as I said before earth only has that shield,fire is the most used char if you take all the servers in consideration..I get it you like the char but seriously you must be kidding with what you just said.

To judge if a class is broken or not please consider yourself this : Are you already reach the peak of your class?
And by peak I mean you better be max level and at least stay in top 50 to said so, know everything about ur class and the class you consider it broken. Try the "broken" class and see if it's really broken. Also try to look at his gears to see who is faster. Speed is critical stat that determine who win and who lose. At least it is for now.
If you don't qualified that you don't have the right to say anything. If you can then please show proof. Screenshot of the broken team, ur team, ur gears, his gears, etc... here and people will help you defeat them.

I love Fire Main, do not get me wrong, I faithfully stay with him from beggining of the game, but it slowly loses his usefulness because of Earth and Lght. Earth has not ONLY shield, but also Strong Armor, and immunity to damage in first round. Fire Main has crappy first line of passives except Genjutsu Mirror, which you can replace with some characters like Kurenai, Kakashi BS, or Ningendo.

I personally do not find any character especially overpowered, BUT if anything Earth is definitely more useful than Fire late game.

As said above, I am talking ONLY about late game, because early game Earth is crap, fire is 2nd best. It's at 70s that Earth starts to win against all other characters.

And as for making some chars sound more overpowered... people on this forum do that to Fire Main and Tobi all the time xD

Trying not to get dragged into the whole "what class is more broken/OP", I'm just going to comment on the picture from the OP:

My gut feeling? The Earth main didn't know what he was doing. That, or the power difference is crazy between the two. With that line up, if the Fire main was running sleep as his standard attack, Gaara would wake the Earth main up each turn with how they are lined up. This means the Earth main should be able to get his moves off in the rounds he wants to. The Fire main's mirror only bounces one debuff, meaning one of the ignites from Kankuro should still be dealing damage each turn. So as long as the Earth main was targeting the Fire main and not Gaara, he should have had no problems winning. The only real downside to the Earth's team is he is running Sakura... who in my opinion is one of the worst healers as her standard heal removes no debuffs. Meaning you are taking your own ignite damage every turn Sakura doesn't have her mystery up.

In my opinion, even with some of the classes being stronger, the only way anyone should win a 2v4 match is if the power difference is crazy, or the person they are facing doesn't know what they are doing (whether that be targeting the wrong ninja, or putting together a team that doesn't combo/work). This post was last edited by Maroner at 2016-10-15 19:32

you are blinded by your love for fire main which is kinda annoying reading your comments that are full of b.....but whatever your opinion,if you fail to see the reality is your choice,fire main is the most overpowered and most used character,you can try and make other classes more overpowered all you want but truth is fire is broken. This post was last edited by We*er at 2016-10-15 21:15

"fire is broken" is also just an opinion, that might be caused by the fact that you hate facing that main in battle though... Which is also confirmed by how offensive you have just become towards me, and my opinion. Let's at least break the most used part:

S1 is probably the most populated server, and when I last checked there were 2 fire mains at most in most of the rankings... The rest consisted of maybe 1 wind, and tons of earths/lghts

nice harambe ^^

well that's true,scarlet blaze in my opinion is the most disgusting class in the game or at least on my server,anyway I have nothing againts you but more againts this class that has no balance

No it's not quit spamming the forums with BS all day and play the game.

Ningendo his reflect/immobilize on chase and his Mystery can cause Chaos. He is one of the most OP ninja in the game atm and most likely the reason you where completely shut down.

I main fire but soon as I get lucky and get Ningendo/ Kakashi I will be changing to earth or Lightning. The best part (and the main reason he is strong) about fire is his reflect passive which also increased damage to targets with ignite.

His sleep attack is a good ability but it's very easy to counter and only a couple of weaker players I fight don't have counters for it. All you need is a clone/puppet/healer that removes debuffs/any ninja that removes debuffs or a way to become immune. Even if all fire mains where removed from the game you would need nee clones to stop ninja that have a 100% attack/combo chance.

His Mystery that seals you for a turn has a 3 turn CD and can be reflected /removed with a healer/ninja that remove debuffs. You play water so something like this should be no problem for you, get a ninja with interrupts if you get counted so easily.

Lastly his reflect very good passive but not OP. The main reason it's so strong is because we have too few ninja with reflect passives that are not rare. With reflect any debuff team can screw themselves.

An earth main with power around mine can shield 2.3k each turn on two ninja. Another 2k+ every two turns when he uses an ability. or he can take the mystery that let's him attack two times one turn for another 2.3k x2.

Can become immune to damage turn one is ok but what really makes him OP is the shield + immune to chase.

Lightning mains can attack the weakest ninja on your team which is not too bad but they also have a very high combo chance which let's them kill a ninja in the back row turn one depending on the teams/power.

Anbu black ops buff that gives your team (everyone in 12v12) the ability to heal a % of there Tai attacks damage which is very nice if you deal plenty of Tai damage.

Can deal two stranded attacks every turn or become immune to debuffs with 3 sword ninja for two turns with a 20% attack buff.

As for mystery ability's he has some of the best. The main weak point of Lightning mains is the lack of a reflect. If a Paralyze get's throw on him it can ruin his combo.

Water mains have very OP healing, when I changed to water I was healing 1500's and 2000+ if I used my Mystery I'm not going to go into this class that much but all they need is some good ninja and they will be just as OP as earth.

Please a mod close this thread ._. There's tons of haters here, that are crying for everything. :L