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[ Player Guide ] [Scarlet Blaze] [F2P] The Birth of Tobi-Shika-Blaze Formation

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On 2016-11-04 23:58:58Show this Author Only
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this team is so hard to use against any team with a healer T_T
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On 2016-11-05 03:32:28Show this Author Only
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good day sir, what moods are you using in in shika-tobi?

if theres kankkuro/sasuke or kank/kakashi , which target should i choose first?

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On 2016-11-05 10:56:55Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-11-04 23:58:58
  • this team is so hard to use against any team with a healer T_T
hi,

if you face healer, make sure to kill the healer first in second round using the death combo. :D

good luck and see you again
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On 2016-11-05 10:59:10Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-11-05 03:32:28
  • good day sir, what moods are you using in in shika-tobi?

    if theres kankkuro/sasuke or kank/kakashi , which target should i choose first?

    This post was last edited by 113***@facebook at 2016-11-5 03:35
hello,

it depends, whether you can kill the puppet or not in round one. if you cant kill kankuro, if you can kill the other first.

about mood, i use mood like these.
scarlet : +life -att
tobi : +life -att
naruto : +nin -att
shikamaru : +nin -att

hope this help, good luck and see you again,


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On 2016-11-05 11:14:19Show this Author Only
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  • XYZDream On 2016-11-05 10:59:10
  • hello,

    it depends, whether you can kill the puppet or not in round one. if you cant kill kankuro, if you can kill the other first.

    about mood, i use mood like these.
    scarlet : +life -att
    tobi : +life -att
    naruto : +nin -att
    shikamaru : +nin -att

    hope this help, good luck and see you again,


    This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-11-5 11:01
Hello !

i understand that scarlet would be the most probable target in round 2 so +life would be suitable i guess.
But how about a +nin ?
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  • AfterEffects On 2016-11-05 11:14:19
  • Hello !

    i understand that scarlet would be the most probable target in round 2 so +life would be suitable i guess.
    But how about a +nin ?
Hi,

if you want more offensive output, you can change all to +nin -att

also, i kind of guy who decide to choose +life -att mood for all the main char. its because hp is universal stats. i mean, it can be apply to other main simply because i like to have my MC stay longer on the field and attack is not so important for at least 3 main (fire, earth, water).

hope this help, see you again
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On 2016-11-05 13:38:23Show this Author Only
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About the root of warrior setup, this is the typical form:



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On 2016-11-05 17:45:14Show this Author Only
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  • XYZDream On 2016-11-04 18:00:44
  • hi,

    first can you give me full formation of that setup? like how the positioning, what is the other talent. who is in move 1,2,3 and 4?
    without that, i cant really give you much advice. since magic immune is the natural counter for control team

    see you soon
1) MC 2) Kimimaro 3) Tobi 4) Sasuke

Chidori blade, Taijutsu, Rai Giri, Enhancement of Lightning Style, Root of Warrior

Summon White Snake

Thanks. He generally aims at my fire main, which isn't all that robust.
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On 2016-11-06 12:16:24Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-11-05 17:45:14
  • 1) MC 2) Kimimaro 3) Tobi 4) Sasuke

    Chidori blade, Taijutsu, Rai Giri, Enhancement of Lightning Style, Root of Warrior

    Summon White Snake

    Thanks. He generally aims at my fire main, which isn't all that robust.
hello, sorry for late reply.

uhm, i have to admit, this is a hard counter for tobi-shika-blze line up.
i can only give a few advice to help you "win" this line up. i myself is not sure that i can beat this line up without good RNG,

here we go :

first. change your main 3rd passive to death mirage.
now that you have death mirage, pray that it will clean the right target when needed ;P:victory:

round 1.
- immediately pay attention to enemy main (MB) and your tobi, watch closely who act first. and remember it
- if sasuke cast his mystery, interrupt it with your main seal curse.

round 2.
- remember who faster between enemy main (MB) and your tobi. if your tobi faster, aim enemy main and cast tobi mystery on him. (you have to be fast, chidori blade have almost no delay, if you late a few second, you are screw.) if enemy main is faster, do not activate tobi mystery, activate naruto mystery and aim MB. (let enemy combo on your main for this round, and i hope you main is tanky enough to withstand the combo).
- i hope in this round 2 good things happen. 1, tobi evade enemy MB mystery. 2, death mirage clean paralyse debuff from your main and shikamaru. if not it's pretty much GG. :lol

round 3.
- here come the hard choice, it's between to cancel tobi or kimimaro ult. if i were you, i will cancel tobi. but i dont know which one is btter choice :P
- if you manage your main to suvive after kimimaro combo on him (consider he aim you main), then you will win the game. if not, simple. you lose the game.

now, before i close my post, i want to give one last advice.
if your server is filled with people who abuse debuff immune, change your style from control to damage style. if it only one guy who use this line up, it is okay to lose to one guy. you still can win over other guy

that's all advice i can give, hope this help you.
good luck and see you again.
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  • Sourav On 2016-11-05 13:38:23
  • About the root of warrior setup, this is the typical form:



hi,

that line up is far easier to handle than the one the other guy give (which include tobi and exclude hinata).

round 1, see who activate mystery, the seal him with fire main seal. note even if hinata activate her mystery first, the shield will be gone if she get immobile.

round 2, its either finish hinata or cancel lightning main mystery with my round 2 death combo. (immobile will interrupt mystery). since tobi is move 1 and LM/MB in move 2, it will be easy to pull combo.

round 3, finish kimimaro.

win the game, yeay :lol:victory:

see you again This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-11-6 12:25
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On 2016-11-06 15:00:29Show this Author Only
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  • XYZDream On 2016-11-06 12:16:24
  • hello, sorry for late reply.

    uhm, i have to admit, this is a hard counter for tobi-shika-blze line up.
    i can only give a few advice to help you "win" this line up. i myself is not sure that i can beat this line up without good RNG,

    here we go :

    first. change your main 3rd passive to death mirage.
    now that you have death mirage, pray that it will clean the right target when needed ;P:victory:

    round 1.
    - immediately pay attention to enemy main (MB) and your tobi, watch closely who act first. and remember it
    - if sasuke cast his mystery, interrupt it with your main seal curse.

    round 2.
    - remember who faster between enemy main (MB) and your tobi. if your tobi faster, aim enemy main and cast tobi mystery on him. (you have to be fast, chidori blade have almost no delay, if you late a few second, you are screw.) if enemy main is faster, do not activate tobi mystery, activate naruto mystery and aim MB. (let enemy combo on your main for this round, and i hope you main is tanky enough to withstand the combo).
    - i hope in this round 2 good things happen. 1, tobi evade enemy MB mystery. 2, death mirage clean paralyse debuff from your main and shikamaru. if not it's pretty much GG. :lol

    round 3.
    - here come the hard choice, it's between to cancel tobi or kimimaro ult. if i were you, i will cancel tobi. but i dont know which one is btter choice :P
    - if you manage your main to suvive after kimimaro combo on him (consider he aim you main), then you will win the game. if not, simple. you lose the game.

    now, before i close my post, i want to give one last advice.
    if your server is filled with people who abuse debuff immune, change your style from control to damage style. if it only one guy who use this line up, it is okay to lose to one guy. you still can win over other guy

    that's all advice i can give, hope this help you.
    good luck and see you again.
    This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-11-6 12:25
Thanks for the tips.

I know this is a little off topic but would you be able to help me setup something for fire main that can counter this setup? The root of warrior setup is being used by 1 person in the server but he has been unbelievably annoying since I knocked him from top spot in ranked battle. I'm hoping to fend him off in Sage battle and hopefully he will use some other thing.

Thanks again.
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On 2016-11-07 18:28:10Show this Author Only
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  • On 2016-11-06 15:00:29
  • Thanks for the tips.

    I know this is a little off topic but would you be able to help me setup something for fire main that can counter this setup? The root of warrior setup is being used by 1 person in the server but he has been unbelievably annoying since I knocked him from top spot in ranked battle. I'm hoping to fend him off in Sage battle and hopefully he will use some other thing.

    Thanks again.
hi, again, sorry for late answer XD

maybe something that deal long combo will take down enemy main in first round.
root warrior setup is run by neglecting defense (only kimi to tank)
so if you can proc combo MB and be faster than his MB, i think you will win.
if you have someone like SM naruto, things will be easier :D

good luck, and have fun
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On 2016-11-07 19:40:38Show this Author Only
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ok thanks ^ ^
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On 2016-11-15 00:07:36Show this Author Only
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Naruto or Hinata as a better choice .
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  • XYZDream On 2016-10-11 15:10:24
  • Current Team Weakness
    1. Generally this team weakness is facing an immune enemy. as you may know my play style is about controling people. if i can't control him, than i'm screwed XD2. Dealing with people who have power 5k above you is hard. I am sure i dont need to explain this to you, right? :|3. in my server there are 1 team that i cannot defeat yet with this line up. his formation consist of Sage naruto, Iruka, Sage jiraiya, and scarlet blaze who take first mystery and death mirrage. i dont know why, maybe i'm just to noob for him. RIP me
    i think its enough weakness for now, i will add more if people in my server kill me so much that i think this line up become useless in my server.
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    Shikamaru Mystery Damage
    This section will cover mainly for shikamaru damage. Note that this test was done on kakashi clone. The purpose of this section is to let you know how much damage shikamaru can deal to a single target.
    1. Damage done to normal enemy (no debuff)
    2. Damage done to enemy under immobile status
    3. Damage done to enemy under immobile and ignite status + amplify by fire main passive on ignite enemy(note: ignore the hit count, i get 11 after the other and shikamaru hit kakashi clone)
    Do you see the difference in damage? yummy ;P
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    Alternative Team
    In case you do not want to use naruto, you c*e this following line up as *ternative team to use. I will add a few note for each line up.1. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Kisame (dont forget to change the summon to Kyushoku Deer and change the 3rd passive to Death Mirrage)this line up offer more offensive style to you. With kisame and Tobi, you get guarantee 1 immobile enemy each round as both tobi and kisame mystery cause knockdown. Kisame can stand there alone and be just fine because he can gain his healt back to almost full thanks to his samehada which absorb chakra and get 10% his life each time the party get additional chakra. The reason why i not run this formation is because kisame is just 3 star. his healt gain is not that amazing to stand alone in 1 row. especially if you meet enemy with ninja in bottom and middle row and get comboed, kisame will just die in round 1. Also, kisame can proc accupunture to enemy with his standard attack.
    2. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Kurenai (talents and summon is the same with current line up)Kurenai can give HP (much HP) and shield to front liner (tobi or oboro clone). Her chase will not affect combo if you pur her exactly like the formation.
    3. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Hinata (Take death mirrage as 3rd passive, change summon to tonton or chameleon)Hinata can absorb almost any hit in round 1 and guaratee accupunture if you proc combo. But with the GNW kankuro being this month sign in reward, i doubt that she will be usefull as kankuro standar attack will just ignore or pierce through her shield.
    4. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Asuma WB (same with number 3)Actually i dont know if i can list him here, as the title said, this guide is for F2P player and Asuma WB is considered Rare here. Anyway if you ever get him, you can replace naruto with him and get more output damage as long as your healt bar stay full. But i think he is more fragile than kisame. On top of that, he cannot gain life :/ Your choice.
    5. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Kabuto (same with number 2)If you like healer on your team, this he can replace naruto
    6. Tobi-Shika-Blaze + Shino (same with number 2)i've tried this only one, and i must say that i regret cultivating him (RIP cult rune and awakening material). i though his mystery cooldown is 2 round. well guess i have to * it up :p
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    For now i will end my guide here, if you find this guide is good and want an upgrade for this guide, please do commend in the commend section and tell me your opinion about this formation. I will add more staff like battle simulation or maybe another alternative team. if you have an idea to upgrade this line up, just say it in the commend. See you soon guys :kiss:

    This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-10-11 15:30 This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-10-12 13:53 This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-10-21 13:38
what you mean w/ same as number 2, is number 2 refering to the tobi shika blaze naruto line up or to kisame?
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