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1＃ Go ToIs it just me or does itachi cs sound awful?I have heard buzz about him and I know some people have rushed to buy him even though he doesnt work yet but I am struggling to see why he is so sought after.
2 mysteries per round are nothing new and his have no control, no interrupt, no increase chakra cost, no cd increase. He is not good enough to be a pos 1, even if shisui wasnt our current me
ta and as a support he already sounds inferior to edo itachi and indra. All cs can do is use chakra to cause amaterasu, but he causes that with his standard anyway so his mysteriesare just fluff, unless he is able to stack amaterasu and in turn stack its stat decreasing but i am sure that is not the case. Edo itachi can control and increase mystery cost and indra has 2 different mysteryies 1 suppresses immunity and interrupts and the second damages and weakens resistance. So both ends of the spectrum widely accesible edo itachi and recharge only indra both sound more useful instantly. He has a chance of causing irremovable ignition but indra always causes it to units attacking him, even if he dodges the attack.
Fear is a great tool these days against shisui, tendo, 6p but the only way itachi can cause it is via chase meaning he cannot cause it to 6p and its a case of very hit and miss odds if he will be able to land it on shisui
He buffs himself but only his attack and the only skill he has that is pure tai is his chase, so his mysteries get subpar buff, his standard gets no buff and the trade off for buffing 1 chase of 1 character is that he weakens the ninjutsu for any character in your own team causing repulse or high float, making him more of a hindrance than a support.
His last passive is decent sure but that's all he has? He cant be targeted for mysteries but since he is a support character whether he is targeted or not he will die just as fast to the aoe damage of literally any pos 1 in the game, all this passive does is mean his immunity cant be suppressed easily but thats hardly a big deal.
So can anyone tell me what I seem to be missing because he really seems inferior to edo
Edo
+ multiple strong control mysteries
+ can increase mystery cost
+ individual reflect mirrors
+ dodge
+ weakens incoming nin damage significantly
- chakra cost/ cd can be a weak point depending on sb's equipped
Chinese style
+ amaterasu, it is a plus but its a very slow way to weaken a team that likely isnt going to make a difference tbh, he cuts 1% off of 6p's 15% scaling, shisuis 6%, madaras 30%? big whoop
+/- buffs self/ but only 1 skill and weakens everyone else in exchange
- no means of control
- only skill that does anything of merit is his chase ( fear and interrupt)
If you ran him pos 1 and generated enough chakra to use both msyteries round 1 then maybe you could use him if you only attack people with significantly lower power than yourself but at a power gap big enough to make this viable you could just run kisame/kimi halloween/edo hiruzen etc, I don't get why people seem so excited for him.
Looking forward to any replies, thanks
This post was last edited by 0b1t0 on 2022-07-31 07:14:22. -
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I'm sorry but what are you talking about? edo itachi is clearly the better support for shisui and cs doesnt deal any damage ba
sed on life at least not as far as our in-game desc ription or konoha proxy shows and as we both acknowledged he is a suport character not a main so outside of arena the damage his mysteries will do are not gonna swing things in your favour. The only thing he can consistently land is amaterasu which as said only cuts 1% off the enemies scaling which is negligble at best, a 6p scaling at 14% per attack instead of 15 or a shisui scaling at 5% per attacak dealt and 6% per attack suffered , they are still gonna do a ton of damage and the scaling will still heavily heavily outweigh itachi's amaterasu. It decreases def/res when they take damage but by a tiny amount so using it with a multiple attack ninja like shisui or tendo is a moot point since everytime shisui uses a standard or chase and every time tendo uses a mystery itachi cuts their damage by 15% overwriting the tiny amount of stat decrease the opponent has. Lets talk about a few commonly faced characters and what each itachi can do against them to try and explain my train of thought.
Vs shisui
Edo itachi:
can increase mystery cost so he shisui cant mystery and lock one of your units down
His chase works very well with his own shisui and doesnt weaken him in the process
Itachi cs:
Amaterasu
Vs 6p
Edo itachi:
Increase mystery cost
Cut damage from first 3 incoming standards in half
Reflects the control of his chase
Itachi cs:
Amaterasu
Vs Madara edo tensei release
Edo itachi:
Increase mystery cost
Interrupt/control sasori
Reflects his chases immobile
Itachi cs:
Amaterasu
Fear but only if your team triggers a chase on madara ( which shisui wont do becasue madara is a front row character) before madara can mystery and give himself super armour
Vs edo Zabuza
Edo itachi:
Can cause dream, shutting zabuza down completely
Can intterrupt/control sasori/fire main, supprting characters that are there to remove debuffs from zabuza
Itachi cs:
Amaterasu
Fear but only if the zabuza isnt supported by a mangetsu
vs Oro gnw
Edo itachi:
Can cause dream, preventing oro from summoning more kages turning him into a piece of furniture
Can reflect his mystery's immobile
Itachi cs:
Amaterasu
Vs jiraiya toad chant
Edo itachi:
Can interrupt barrier or failing that can cause dream so jiraiya cant cause extreme chaos
Can dodge chases to cut all these jiriaya chase-blitz teams short
Reflects potentially both of jiriayas extreme chaos targets
Itachi cs:
Amaterasu
Fear, if you target jiriaya with a specific mystery
Against both stacked carry characters and back row supports edo itachi is a sure fire thing. His mystery combines control with mystery cost increase and is unavoidable, while he himself has a dodge, grants team wide mirrors, cuts first incoming nin damage in half, shisui leads into his chase with no downside.
Whereas itachi chinese style seems to be purely decorational, all flash but no substance amaterasu is the only thing he has that you can rely on him landing, other than that the one and only useful tool in his arsenal is fear but it is impossible to land on 6p or shisui and can only affect madara if itachi lands a chase before madara gets to mystery and get super armour. His mysteries are a useless waste of chakra as all they do is inflict a debuff that his standard already deals to multiple units and you are using a character that weakens your own team more than he weakens the opponent and what do you get i exchange for playing with anchor holding you back? you get a character who buffs just 1 of his skills and it is the same skill that is useless against any pos 1 we currently encounter. So either you build your team around itachi cs, a subpar support character or you will have a team whose "support" character is actually a liability holding your other characters back, unless the team is tailor made for itachi and itachi alone then he is like a spy for the opponent because he does more to benefit them than he does his own team because his skilset is such a poor trade off.......... I really do not see the upside
This post was last edited by 0b1t0 on 2022-07-31 20:42:30. -
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