funny how whoever disagrees with you is a spender...

lemme put it simple there is no strategy when meta exists, trying to "strategize" when there is no flexibility is hitting yourself for no reason

funny how you keep repeating what i said that everyone plays for their own reason but thats not strategy thats simply people minding their own business and doing their own thing, do they play good? no, is it good for them? maybe, everyone have their own reason, but using that as a base of an argument is kinda.... since the game is driven by meta not by what little timmy tries to do when he discovers that his enemy with bigger injury crits him harder and not knowing why because he collected all the ninjas and spent all his keys to get power but with 0 care for substats or whatnot...

now bottom line:

for a f2p player to spend their coupons on a pepega ninja is what we call "bad decision"

you talk about how wrong i am for saying that what the events was offering was very bad thy you never made an actual counter argument, like tell me why was good then? and dont reply the nonsensical "oh but some wants to get xyz" no as a f2p you cant afford to throw coupons left n right mindlessly...

i start to think that you actually dont know how to play as a f2p...

Yes. For at least 2 different weeks, Obito 10t was available for 1,250 coupons per frag.

I think you are confusing my breakdown (lisk) of some possible reasons why people play the game. even put etc in both sides. That is not part of the strratey that I was taking about. I have given different examples of different types of ingame strategy this game has to offer, as seen in my previous comments.

Regarding your arugment that "whoever disagree with me is a spender" well ofc I know the backgrund of some people, esp those who think highly of themselves. Read some post here and there that ties them as being spender. Both of you two said it yourselves. Bbefore you were ask by someone (not sure if last year) and you responded that you never claimed to be an f2p, then came your other comments. Or were you lying all along, either way, I don't see you as an f2p cause even the f2p side of things you seem not to know. else you wouldn't claim about the non existence of overused word in here (strategy). And for the other person, I knew all along that he is a spender, I remember him simply because I letcured him before regarding his wrong inputs in a certain discussion.

Substats are ofc very important, nd the overall stats of each ninja. A game having a meta doesn't restric people from thinking of different ways in order to reach their goal, ergo they strategize. lemme give you another e*ample.

Moons vs sun (ofc at the time of writing)

See original post here:https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-34464-1.html?thread_anchor=4#4

Tell me if any of these require meta

As for Moons/Suns consumption here is what I do:

1. Moon - During early game (first 1-3 weeks i guess) I knew I couldn't make it to full 1k key rebate (since every week we only have 40k-50k limit due to low level) so I only traded moons for basic/medium refines. It is very crucial in the beginning of the server that you keep up with the everyone else while also managing your items properly. With that being said, I rushed refines in this way:

a. 1st month refines: I made my pos2-pos4 ninjas at lvl4 during the first week of refine rebates

Note:

Pos1 ninja tools remain at lowest level - do not touch them (in the mean time, use lvl4 tools on your pos1 and leave the lvl1 for pos4)

b. 2nd month refines: I made sure to get my pos1 3 equipments from lvl1 up to lvl7 or lvl8 each

c. 3rd month refines: I made sure my pos1 get all the remaining 2 equipments from lvl1 to lvl7orlvl8

d. skip until ready for lvl10 upgrade (or you can do 100 refines for each level 7 so that you can still claim the rebate rewards. But totally up to you)

Simultaneously

A. 1st month cave rebate: ignored the incomplete cave-keys - due to time constraint

B. 2nd month rebate: I was able to hit 1050 this time

C. 3rd month rebate: I was able to hit 2100 this time

D. 4th month rebate: I was able to hit 2100 this time

E. not yet available: I was able to get 3k atm

Note: there are alot of ways to collect keys. Before, I thought that it is not doable to hit 2k consecutively but it is actually achievable (with all the event key freebies and stuff) ***and also with the help of my incomplete fuku spending 15k coupons hehe

2. Suns - During early game I didn't touch my suns. I keep on collecting. Your target should be atleast 250 charms or 500 if you can. For refines it is advisable to go for lvl7/lvl8 to level10 for pos1 so that you can still be competitive. (tho this is debatable)

Even for Merchant, I only trade in the beginning for Summon accessories (summon cultivation) until I unlocked some useful Summon Mystery. Shiba, Pakkun.

After that I only claim advance refines there. Same with monthly rewards, I only claim either charm or refines depending on the needs per month.

What I am trying to say is, if you do not use moons/suns on ninjas and use them for cavekeys+advance refines+charms instead then you would not have any problem in the long run. Your stats will still catch up to the actual full potential of a typical strong player.

Cause ninjas, you can just collect through daily grinds in the events or coupons/fuku deals. Say you recruit nagato/naruto sage/chojuro [using moons/suns] then another good ninjas come around (sometimes free) and you have to replace them in your lineup. The resources you used to recruit those ninjas via moons/suns would go to waste. Not totally wasted tho but a little bit that way. hehe

Now why did I tell you all of this you might ask? This is because this set-up is not applicable all the time. Say I registered in another new server and it happened that during the first cave rebate I can collect 1050 keys, then I would rather do it than refines. Per month you should aim 1050 keys, much better if you can do 2100 so you c*ready use the power-ups and be competitive. At the same time you would want to rush your refines also but always prioritize cave keys :)

As always, adjust to the game. Adapt to your surroundings and have fun!

And take note, each people have their ways/strategies. And each people in each server do not have to do the same exact thing as the other. And that's the good thing about strategy games, they require people to think,

"you talk about how wrong i am for saying that what the events was offering was very bad thy you never made an actual counter argument, like tell me why was good then?"

What I am trying to ask you is that how can you possibly tell if a certain event/redeemable/offers are relevant or irrelevant to every players playing the same game as you? It is your generalization that is off. As for the argument, the focus in on the newer servers... along with that, other redeemables may or maynot be available in the succeding weeks. So that as well should be taken into consideration.

Remember my post regarding 6p? (https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-52010-1.html) If not, then here's the gist, my dilemma back then was to spend 15k cps since anytime our server will merge with the other servers. Tho at the asme time, I am in a good position where I don't need a higher tier ninja than I currently have. But since there came a better deal in that week, I had to make a choice. Cause anytime, next month or so my ninja goal could be off of the fuku and I won't be able to BT him in time before merging. And that is all part of the game, risk of spending to early or risk on letting go of good opportunity. Hence another great example of ingame related strategy that isn't even related to meta (considering I am talking to my Desired ninja and not the actual meta ninja)

As an F2p we have to first set our primary team, a team who can carry through the first few months of the game, then plan for either long term OP ninja (but would take more time hence during the time of having a weak team for many months collecting hard earned cpns, daily rewards will suffer-plnder-sage-matsuri-etc. Or we can take another temporary secondary team who can catchup with server's activity (daily/weekly) and then collect for powerups/long term OP ninjas (but could result to even longer time period).

This part is what differentiate f2ps with spender. Cause planning your early-mid-team while also managing your equipments, upgrades will surely be challenging,

Another good point, whatever free ninjas that the early servers are getting will be of great help to those who are just adjusting with the game and are not that familiar with rebates and stuff. While these toxic people continues to rant and demand for better ones (not saying you are 'those' people just tying up the issues with this example). So people claiming that they are giving/offering (redeemables and/or free) Tra.sh/irrelevant/use.less ninjas at a certain week don't know that the early servers needed them, same as they did back when they were staring with the gam in their ownn servers. And then again, as what is bein observed, new servers are favored to entice new set of people to join and whales to spend in an active server.

Altho ofc, not all will need those, expert f2ps and expert p2ws already know what to get right from the start so not much of a problem, even at early stages of the server...

What I am asking you is to answer my simple questions yet nothing still.

Why do you play, who did you stay (for more than a year if you are not happy with the game overall and that you feel the management don't care about community feedbacks? It is actually the comment that you replied in, in the first place.

There are a lot of strategies/considerations in this game. And if people don't see any, and claims it is not a game of startegy, then from there we can tell who really knows the game and who only relies on money to play...

All you can do is throw tantrums and irrelevant insults since my actual argumentts you can't take. I ahve perfectly lined it up for you, but unlucky for you I am not just some pushover that you can trick. you got exposed and for that reason, you try so hard to insult others to distract them from your earlier flawed reasonings and arguments. Remeber you calling me an impostor whale, even tho I proudly claim to be F2p. When you call me delusional for thinking that Naruto online is a strategy game, while infactt I have presenteed too many examples where stratgey is taking place. And pretty much your all other nonsense comment, which exposed how deep (or rather SHALLOW) youur knowlede is when it comes to playing the game itself.

Even before I always say, I can show respect to people, but for arrogant people like you, I c*ways make some adjustments. I reply based on the responses I am getting.

I could've writen 2-3 liners but if these long sentences you can't understand, what more if I say less, you would flood me with nonsense quesions until you realize you were wrong all along.

I haven taken a lot of space and time for dear readers (if there is any LOL). My whole weekend is about lecturing these experts and now it is monday all over again. A tiring weekend this is, now back to reality.

Well, I am not always active so always be careful of people acting like they know a lot while infact they are just pretending. Take away their ingots and they won't even know how to start, given that for them this game is not a ame of strategy. LOL

The X, don't bother with him, He is just a complete noob that is sub 150k power forget 1m range I was talking before. (assuming his account is top1 lol)

Someone just got exposed, my bad kid go back to your cave.

LOL that was taken a year ago. I even went to my previous servers.

What seems to be your focus is the power yeet it is the knowledge and tthe implementation in the game that counts.

As said many times, I had to go on and off cause I have important things to attend to. But when it comes to knowledge abut the game, you won't even compare to what I know.

Well, a 2-4M player without any idea of how to strategize in a game of strategy is much more sus than a few hundered Ks or even 5 digits with more knowledge and has more substance. Your fake achievements wont matter to real players whoknow how to play the game.

Exactly it was taken year ago and power is from today so it PERFECTLY SHOWS that your implementation and game knowledge = 0. Strength of an account and ninja count shows if you are good player or not instead of being forum spammer. I can respect that JS3 dude but like I said you are just a meme to me.

Show us your main account then mr expert don't hide behind "I don't have time to play otherwise I would be top goat".

LOL investigate further and you'll see why.

Well that is, if you know how to investigate.

I don't need to tell you what my current stats are. All you need to know are the things I have presented above, how I got those ealy pic stats s in that server (the timeframe, stats, ninjas for an f2p = you would be surprised how I did it, those where even the times when infiniteillusion were not a thing). Look for what my requests there when it comes to xserver events and so on. Oh wait, you can't assess cause you don't know how the game works without your precious ingots.

Actually just visited that account for a month recently, to see the activity there. Anyway, my goal there was done so nothing else to do there.

Have I never had to leave and stayed there, I could've reached so much more. Real life obligations are more important than a game. But then I came back, tho to the old one. You wouldn't understand, all you see is current POWER that you easily bought and is so proud of.

Have you seen the title on that account? That will tell you alot about the x-server and the cluster and the whole situation. (that is assuming you know what to look for and where = given your lack of basic knowledge about the game). Tell me again your achievements? if there is any?

Doesn't change the fact that you got exposed earlier. A whale that doesn't know how to play who insult f2p while in fact he doesn't know how the game works.

What times man... when noob not even 200k power with 1 ninja ever done that plays the game for 1000 times less and didn't see the state of the game from early days talks with you about game knowledge and achievements I have nothing to talk with you since you have 0 knowledge about end game activities. What there is to talk with you?

1) Spacetime achievements or meta ? - you have none (no idea which account from 1663 is actually yours, it's possible that it's one of those sub 50k power I just assumed top1 is yours out of being polite)

2) Finished ninja exams? - you have no idea even how they look beyond 200

3) End game meta and setups? - you have no idea outside of watching those ninjas on youtube

4) Illusion event score? - you most likely have no idea about what's top tier meta there and have no ninjas to implement that

5) Events value "strategy"? - you already showed me that you have no idea about actual top value events and combinations

6) Sage world scenario blitz vs carry setups? - you have none of ninjas or power to test anything there

7) Best arena teams? - you have no idea and no ninjas to come even close to having "knowledge" about it.

8) Best 9tails invasion teams? - again you have no idea and no ninjas to test things

9) Nature training fast kill strategies? - please you can't even finish those level 30 no point talking about end game versions

It's every f2p man that has nothing in the game done. Saw like 50% of the content or only on youtube. Has 0 ninjas to actually test things but is first to talk about big brain strategies. Again stop embarassing yourself noob.

EDIT I don't have to investigate anything more, saw your pathetic account and that's enaugh for me, since you didn't show your "main" answer is simple. It doesn't exist or is as pathetic as the other one and yeah spam another wave of excuses you got exposed already and nothing will change that even 10 more essays.

EDIT2

I like your team btw. (again assuming top1 on that dead server and cluster is yours) typical garbage setup: Naruto - NY Hashirama - Rin = pinnacle power of every noob. 0 power and on top you couldn't afford anything else with your 200IQ strategies and min-maxing events? What a sad life.

You guys have been fighting for two days, you look like children, apart from the size of the text just to offend the other. Because of people like this the game doesn't go forward, you want to buy thousands of alloys every month and you think you're better just for that??? I want to see is to have a good account without spending a dime, putting lots of money in the game doesn't make any of you good players.

That alone showed your cluelessness, we didn't have sage not enough people, spacetime I actually won 1st place - due to inactivity of many players, ninjas exams i don't remmeber where I even stopped tbh, how can i set-up my end game meta when I had to leave for a while (as stated). Had a lot of plans for that account tho. Arena? I even lectured you about it in the past LOL. 9tails I even posted some auto-set up with elaborated explanation in this forum. Illusion event check the score of higher bp vs mine, you'll be surprised.

You seen a couple months version of an incomplete f2p account and you think you know it all. haha If we can both have a restart, fair start with no ingots, you won't have a chance againts real player. a real noob relies on money to power up. real player knows how to play. That's all to it.

As expected, you don't know what to look for. No need to investigate cause you don't know how.

Your only achievement is getting played, by the game and not the other way around. What an amazing investor you are xD

You didn't lecture anyone dude you are getting more delusional as the time goes. All you posted were some nothing special old f2p setups that everybody knew of for months before you. There was nothing special about them and again you are totally clueless what actual end game top tier arena / 9tails setups are.

Tell me best illusion teams in the game or 9tails anything bro that will show that you have actually ANY knowledge about this game. All I see are empty words as always.

All I hear are excuses and IFs. There are no IF in this world maybe you would be better, maybe not. Facts are that you achieved nothing in this game compared to me and have seen 50% content of this game at best. It's pretty cool how after getting exposed for being noob and having actually 0 real knowledge about this game you are attacking me for being spender in every post like it is some sort of insult. Am I supposed to feel bad that I can spend money on whatever I want and you don't or that WE spenders pay so clowns like you can play free games or what cuz I don't see the point there outside of obvious jealousy

As for you my guy I think you should change games. In gacha game you fight with wallet not skill. Play starcraft or something if you want to compete with skill instead of being a crybaby about spenders paying money. You want to see amazing f2p account? Well shock for you there is none compared to whales for plain and simple reason I just explained.

f2p compete with f2p

whales with whales

2 completly different worlds that you have no access to

nygma is praising oasis so much and constantly commenting i think hes just a paid actor at this point

Primeiro: sou F2P apenas no servidor BR, aqui no NA eu jogo uma série yt apenas no free

Segundo: não muda nada se você acha que conhece o jogo só porque ganha dinheiro, quero ver você competir sem gastar um centavo, eu te atropelaria

é como o outro cara disse, gastar dinheiro no jogo não significa que você é bom, você só tem todos os ninjas quebrados do jogo, coloca 3 deles no time e você vence qualquer um que não os tenha. Este é um rpg, então é óbvio que o jogo é um jogo de estratégia.

people like him think they know how to play just by spending loads of money. I'm disgusted to see a lot of people spending and still spending wrong, they just put expensive ninjas in their accounts and upgrade the first system they see, we know that this type of person who sponsors the sh_it that is oasis, complain about the game but they spend a lot.

I will now close this topic, way earlier than i would have normally do because this is now a general discussion in here and it seems like its going in circle and is repetitive. Have a nice week y'all!