yo, oasis, when konohamaru shippuden bt coming in en?

was that supposed to be aimed towards me? if so... "super active influencer" ? hahahahahahaha you talk about why do we play as its black or white, literally every player have their own reason and does not prove anything you try to say, you keep talking about being a strategy game and not charity yet still ignoring my and our points

as i said you TALK with YOURSELF only... check the "con" in conversation

I mean from the first post of his you can clearly see that he is roleplaying smart persona and that's it. Outside of cliche words he says nothing relevant to the topic. Game is clearly dying, playerbase and revenue is going downhill. Oasis events are getting worse, bugs are ignored by "we are investigating it" bs and those are the facts plain and simple.

He is probably typical noob that didn't spend single 1$ himself with terrible account but on forum we have an honor to meet this educated whale gamer.

PS

This is the first time I have ever heard that someone calls Gacha game a "strategy game" The only strategy is to check your wallet and pick a side f2p or p2w. Guy is clearly delusional... (unless making a choice between ninja X or ninja Y is big intellectual work for him)

As expected, people will get offended and will be deffensive, simply because they got exposed. It is not my fault that those two smartheads cannot handle me in this convo, as said over and over all ties up with those 2 principles. So it is never clear to me why they always claim that I am off-topic LOL

As for additional note, the K one is an absolute high spender. Had a convo with him last year as well, the one who thinks he know better since he has a lot of super ninjas not knowing the real grind behind each day trying to figure out what items to get, when to spend, when not to spend, when to take risk into spending resources from limited in-game hard earned grinds, and so on. That is probably the reason for his flawed reasoning in his second paragraph (PS).
-He swooped in in the discussion not knowing the real intent and the main idea. In the end, he had no choice but to laylow, realizing that he is at fault (due to the fact that he didn't read the whole writing). And the same person is trying hard once again.

Real achievements and satisfaction from earning ninjas is what most f2ps want. Spenders and F2ps are in different league. Couldn't care less of any of their easy ninjas, not really impressed of hard earned money but not hard earned in-game ninjas/achievements tbh.

No matter how people try to make a bad impression of me, it will only show how desperate they are to save themselves from their past actions.

Pretty much all there is to it, I have said. Now ackread and maybe you'll know better next time.

remmeber your relevant/irrelevant ninja arguments, claiming people had better ninjas etc than what is being offered for a certain week, CN nonsense comparison, etc. it's just the surface. SMH

I ask those questions since I wanted to know why you make such claims since those contradicts the priniciples presented.

Well it is not my fault if some people don't know how to strategize. when to buy keys using moons vs ninja frags, when to skip fuku weighiing the pros and cons, and so on. If you can't understand that collecting, grinding resources, items, clothing, ninjas, and the risk of those items being gone for a very long time resulting to a longer completion period are part of the game, then why is it that you choose to play. As said before, it is part of the game, part of the strategy in making your daily in-game desicions.

Now tell me again if my arguments are off topic with the main idea of our discussion. And if my responses to you are off-topic. your flawed reasoning doesn't work on me.

-edit to properly match the argument with 2 different persons.

You can't see cons in my arguments, simply becacuse there isn't any. the key words, IN MY ARGUMENTS.

The game has a lot of flaws, that we don't disregard. But what we are talking about is the arguments I have presented. You keep bringing other non-related topics. And as seen, I only reply to your related-to topic responses and the rest are pure off-topic.

1.You will be surprised how much an "f2p" is earning irl

2. you will be surprised how strong an F2p could get, given that he knows the gme perfectly vs some loaded spender who only relies on money to even catch up to strong f2ps.

- Well it is not my fault if some people don't know how to strategize. when to buy keys using moons vs ninja frags, when to skip fuku weighiing the pros and cons, and so on. Some people do not see this game as a strategy game and yet they claim I am delusional. Are we in a meme world, you caught me in your genjutsu if that so. Living in a tsukuyomi, eh. So much lack of knowledge.

And with these people who lacks knowledge influencing others, who knows what kind of community we will have in the future. SMH

btw some of my responses to you got transfered with my comment with the other person. tho I am sure you 2 are reading this and will understand... unless you are still living in infinite tsukuyomi. Altho if you think about it, both applies to the 2 person in question.

-edit to properly match the argument with 2 different persons.

Just so u knew - CN didnt abandon their browser game, they NEED more servers cause there're a heck ton of players on each of them. They abandoned only our region and left it for Oasis to decide its fate, which was a horrible mistake. Such devs should be fired seconds after players started to mass quit and their "features" (aka blacklist, no bug fix, overpricing etc) were exposed

That's not strategy that's just simple knowledge or difference between having a brain or not. On this topic tho lemme ask mr expert strategist here, what's the most broken event right now in the game? Just to quickly expose that you have no idea what you are even talking about yourself about this "strategy"

As for being a spender myself (not that big, few thousand dollars in 6 years is pretty much nothing to any human being that has half decent job) this topic is even more pathetic one. The only difference between f2p and p2w is that 90% of f2p players are bunch of salty kids that can't afford themself those broken ninjas so to feel good about themself they talk this nonsense about how good they feel to grind 1 ninja for 6 years 10% are normal people that just don't want to spend money in games but 90% are pure mental apes with out money so they are keyboard warriors on discord and forums to feel better. Then they beg to pilot accounts so they can talk everywhere that "they" are whales. You are for sure the majority since only jelly noobs bring those arguments about how good it feels to get something after the grind as f2p. Been there it feels like sh1t and there is nothing fun about losing.

Ask that JS3 or whatever was his name guy, how does he truly feel about finishing 9tails Naruto in 2022. Insane job dude you finally have 6 years too late, now useless ninja but yeah feel proud about your grind

EDIT Alkai please, outside of ninjas and like 2 small events game has 0 updates in last 5 years. They completly don't care and all money is used for naruto online mobile. Animations and cinematics in mobile version look like Blizzard cinematics and in our hobo version we have 240p copy pasta animation from ninja storm game at best. All money they made from naruto online they reinvested in naruto online mobile

If a 60k fuku doesn't come, this will be the worst anniversary in history, the week with only spenders events in addition to the game being full of bugs doesn't collaborate with events, exchanges and fuku. Congratulations oasis for doing the usual.

The perfect example of a toxic person jumping in in the middle of a discussion without even knowing the main idea, who he is talking to, and what is going on. I intentionally let it slide to see if you just mistyped or something, but first and foremost, I am not claiming to be a spender, let a lone be whale. I have other investments to take care rather than puting my money into a deadend without anything in return. I am even open about claiming to be *L TIME F2P - given that you didn't know, and the spending/invetor part of the discussion you seem to skip, we c*ready assume you know nothing about this convo. I never claim to be a whale LOL

From here, we c*ready tell you have no idea at all. And in fact I know alot about the game, aside from the grinding parts (that arroant ingots users like you do not even know - not all spenders tho). You don't even know how to actually play the game cause with ingots, you can cheat the process of leveling up, ninja collections, power-ups.

- saying things like this game is not a game of strategy, my man, you are on a diferent level of spender. Other spenders that I know are knowlegable, at the very least.

While the real game offfers a strategical approach to its users. You are mistaking the strategy of the game to an event? while in fact the strategy lies within the right balancing of resources from dailies/weekly events, and not in the event itself. Ofc aside from the gameplay side of the game, there also lies another strategy appraoch, same with choosing ninjas, choosing which power-up to go to first before the other to maximize the possible stats while also considering the grinds for future ninjas/power-ups. All this you don't seem to know at all, annd all this play a huge part in the game. LOL you never cease to amze me with your ways of thinkiing.

Again, event wise -the devs are in control. I am not saying they bring the best events for everyone, what I discussed in pinciple #1 is that the Devs are evidently choosing to give more focus on the newer servers that is why in the older servers the rewards seem so unattactive. How hard is it for one to understand that?

As for the gameplay, well aside from the things I already shared in this forum (both in Nygma and Iamnoob account in this forum - check my chat history on both if you must) I have much much more info to share. At this point, I think you are the one who pretends to know better as for the basics of the game you seem to not have a clue. The words came out of your writings, not mine (unless you delete it or edit)

Now I ask you, do you even know that topic that we are discussing? At first I thought you were creating another topic so I entertained you LOL, but responding such as you did, I begin to remember the time you swooped in regding my thread for newer server road to 6paths team suggestion. You tried invalidating the post, not knowing the actual target audience, and the actual scenario for a 4-5 mon old or so F2P gaming style. History is repeating itself.

As for the F2p achievement portion of your argument, tried digging this up just to let you know. https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-52246-1.html?thread_anchor=2#2 (this one has a bit of a stretigical approach when it comes to collecting ninjas) Date posted: On 2021-08-23 06:19:37

" In all honesty, it would be hard or even impossible for one (even whales, and ofc esp F2Ps) to get all the available ninjas and breakthroughs.

This game is more of a strategy game. Meaning, it is up to the user on how he handles things and work hard for his goals.

1. It could be that JS3 or even other players took 5 years to collect Naruto 9tails since he/they first tried getting Iruka frags (both for BT/5star) which is available through mini freebies in the events and also Fragments Refinement. It would require an enormous amount of excess 5 star fragments from different ninjas just to get iruka full bt ofc [ and also depends on luck using vials ]

2. Players use stamina not only in ninja fragments but also for equipment upgrade/ninja nature cultivation/etc. So Fragments refinement is not the priority is most cases.

3. Naruto tailed requires much much more ninja fragments compared to Iruka, so it is understandable to get him in a much much later time [ free gaming style ]

Again, not all players will [ or even should ] get all the ninjas/BTs in the game. Each should only focus their lmited resources based on their own judgement. Some choose to spend to try to get them all. Depends on one's discretion when it comes to his own spending.

This also applies to the concern of players complaining about Tenten GNW bt before, Rasa BT, Edo Sasori BT, Mu BT, etc. One cannot simply have it all, is all that I am saying. If you want them, go get them or atleast try to :)

But once you get those "Hard to get Ninjas/BTs", especially through grinding, I think you can actually be proud of yourself for doing so. That my friend is what I call a bragging rights. Can be used to inspire others tho, not (just) to gloat.

As always, this is all just my opinion hahaha

Have fun!"

Or is possible that you are just bitter that a spender like you cannnot really claim you achieved something, fair and square due to the fact that you put in money just to get what you want? Again, before I didn't want to throw these kinds of comparison between spenders and non-spenders as I do know the risk of the 2 sides clashing. That is why in JS3's posts we show appriciation of his achievements (as a mini f2p gathering). sugarcoating and holding back, won't work to toxic people so time to let them realize their flawed ideals.

Everyone has his own goals in playing the game - as I said it before to a certain smart man (his way of thinking is better than most as the way I see it). His only mistake is belittling f2ps and ofc, that self proclaimed investor arguments. But when it comes to other things, I can see he understand the game very well. If it wasn't for those mistakes, I could've supported him all the way.

possible reason of F2ps:

1. play for fun (chill gamin style)

2. play the game through hard work and not relying on ingots/money (hard c0re competitive grinder)

3. etc

possible reasonss of spenders:

1. playing with absolute dominance over the other players (but at the same time competitive grinder as well - knows the game well)

2. playing with absolute dominance over the other players (relying on money to outpower others - not really knows the game well)

3. collector of ninjas/outfits.

4. Catching up to strong f2ps

5.catching up to other spenders (due to the fact they missed some days of grind/rewards/exp)

6. play for fun and spend for fun

7. etc.

From here on out, what ever any f2p/p2w says about the game is ofc based on his exp and his subjective views. But no matter what happens, what JS3 accomplished in the past, given his open letter situation, will be considered as hard earned accomplishments. whether he still likes the game or not in the future to come.

Aterall, anyone who played this game put an effort into playing and consumed precious time. Atleast for an f2p, no money got wasted and pure hard work were accomplishedso leaving the game or continue playing is easier to decide on.

Nice spam Nygma, sadly you confirmed that outside of wall of text you have nothing to say in reality. Question was simple what's best event right now since you are a strategist and you completly ignored it, I wonder why

As for f2p / p2w debate it's pointless topic anyway so I will end it here. Just answer my question above and please don't make it another wall of text, keep it short since question is simple as 2+2 = 4

EDIT:

If you want to say that there is no best event and you have to wait for best ninja to be in lucky stars, with best jackpot, + fuku anniversary to have the best value then please don't bother. Right now there is an event that's better by itself th*l of above together.

EDIT2: I will just say that waiting 1 year value for Xmas Fukuromaru deal to get training potions or secret pages as f2p is plain and simple thing that everybody with IQ above 80 should do even spenders. There is no strategy or rocket science behind it so don't act like you know some secret as f2p player. There were way better ways to spend your coupons in the past that you didn't even know existed.

You mean this "On this topic (the game being a strategy game) tho lemme ask mr expert strategist here, what's the most broken event right now in the game? " = " Question was simple what's best event right now since you are a strategist and you completely ignored it, I wonder why"

how come you see them as equal. I just presented you the strategy portion of the game: that you clearly have no idea as what you do is just buy buy buy without even knowing the real principle of daily events/rewards and how a real player manages those in-game earnings for rebate events. All your other flawed responses I responded, and here you are twisting the question.

And for f2p/p2w it suddenly became pointless to you - so convenient, because what i presented are simple facts. and you doesn't have any rebuts, given your lack of knowledge with in game strategies and ingot influences.

Don't talk like you think you know how purely f2p gaming is. Trust me, a lot of considerations are required. something of your level can't fathom.

The best event that you are asking is subjective in each person.

One who wants ninjas in lucky star redeemable and is willing to spend - maybe his missing piece for his ideal team, the missing piece for his 4 star with BT infinite illusion team, will say he thinks the wheel has much better value. For others, great plates with their target ninja packs+ vials, regardless if the ninja is off meta or not, if one likes it or is needing the ninja, then he would want it.

Spending tons of cpns/ingots in great tree will give a bunch of rewards in terms of coupons value but for so much cost - not ideal to low spenders (cpns and/or ingots). You know, the huge discounts are there but still limited to the actual redeemable (ninja/powerups) that each player needs/wants. one may get a ton of powerups there, but if he is missing ninjas then he might consider other events as his go to event. If ask, he would say the better event is event X.

You know why? cause I said from the start, subjective...

Now, your turn to clear your name. As at the moment, I see you as this clueless whale/low spender who attacks people and call them names but in reality he is the one at fault.

Prove me wrong, my friend.

So like I thought you have no idea outside of what majority of people knows aka spend coupons with fuku deals etc.

Capsule event is new broken thing for people that actually know how to abuse this game and past events like broken lucky *, some wheels of fortune, konoha trees and few other things that were made broken on purpose for "people that know" and that's another shame on Oasis for doing those things so mods can get some ninjas and whales who have inside info.

Unless obviously you are big whale with 4 star Pain and Shisui then this is not for you but for anybody that is saving coupons and has 100k range roll Capsule event for Pain + Shisui and enjoy having those ninjas 0 rng by coupons on top of other rewards from this event, combo it with fuku and that's current big brain value not some great plates or rng lucky stars for noobs

For you maybe it is the best event, but as presented the subject is very subjective. And for the record, you said in your prior comment where you first ask the question 'on this topic', the main reason why I elaborated the strategy portion within the game and said that it is not in the event itself.

And now, I am asking you, are you aware of our initial discussion (with the other super active person in this forum?)

To summarize:

1. A specific person Y posted non-sense rants mocking event ninjas along with free ninjas aka fuku (basically a mockery overall)

2. I responded with the concept #1 (a bit subjective but with supporting claims as elaborated) regarding new server events and ask why he (Y) play basically

3. The_X came with an attack and replied to my comment

4. I responded back - no response

5. I added second concept (#2 to further discuss the existing issues) and ask if he understand it - the thread closed the next day

6. I combined the two arguments as 1 subject and ask crucial questions - related to his initial response (#3) and why he play/stayed given that he is not satisfied.

7. I ask him if he understood those arguments presented cause if he does, then he would know better than throwing those nonsense remarks.

8. Tried to explain everything on and on while he try to get out of the main topic.

The main reason why I ask why people still play if they are not contented for more than a year now and still they are here influencing others with wrong ideals. (with his attack in #2 in the list with his flawed arguments in #3 and claims people censor criticism and so on and his other claim regarding investors argument not knowing that it is their expectations that are off.

Altho it is not disregarded that there are flaws in the game, a lot actually. But it is also clearly stated that everything is up to the DEVs. Feedback section are there but still out of anyone's control aside from the management. A lot of negative feedbacks were given but seems the DEVs do not care.

The question is why do you still play given that you don't like the system, and for more than a year a presume. IF you stayed then ask politely in feedbacks without any other high expectations of them doing the fixes. Why stay and make a fuss, with flawed arguments, the main reason why other people get their confidence like the person Y is because of those people tolerating such claims and defending them.

9. then came another clueless whale/low spender who joined the discussion thinking I claim to be this informed whale, who is faking my persona and whatnot, claims I am delusional for thinking this is a game of strategy. While in fact, he is the one who lacks so much knowledge about the topic, the game itself (as seen thorough his responses) and he has the audacity to attack and call names to other. and here we are...

It's not subjective at all By far the highest value in the game (having Pain or Shisui > anything else even 200k power won't make a single difference) but this clown for the sake of being smart has to drop another essay. You are a complete joke dude I bet your own account with all your insane knowledge and strategy is sub 1m garbage with out ninjas as all other forum/discord warriors.

I like the game and hate the terrible publisher that's why I keep playing. I will end this here and any future discussions with you cuz you are simply delusional being with mentality of a child that in reality knows nothing about the game but drops those wall of texts about same thing over and over to look smart and have a last say in any debate. Looks like the X realised you are mental house case and so did I right now. Cheers bro and you can keep another essay to yourself.