And when wind fights fire usually you have have 1 ninja to tank 1 to cleanse and 1 dmg whereas fire can either auto cleanse or stop debuffs with mirror or mirage all through main while maintaining offencive cc so if you wanna go first vs that you have to cleanse sleep off etc whereas fire can have multiple dmg dealing ninjas with the main being able to do everything himself whereas wind only source of cleanse can be either acupuncture or removed quite easily as its a mystery and you get killled . So if you do a 2nd offencive ninja you are either missing cleanse like tsunade or tank as Hinata and wind main can't be relied on for dmg dealing since it's easily removed so if your main dmg dealer isn't focused the wind main gets destroyed. I hope I explained the issue as best as I could .

It's not the fire main it's Tobi, his chase simply does to much damage. I have never seen anyone else hit 2-3 k regularly. I mean have you noticed yourself struggling against fire mains that don't use him?

On the plus side he will get nerfed, it's just a matter of when.

lol you know fire counters wind right??thats why ur struggling with us

Ye but water doesn't really counter fire either so any suggestions how do i stop my wind main getting 1 shot by tobi combo?

Actually correction, water main is able to counter fire with our condition spam even with their mirror active.