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On 2021-02-27 20:48:01Show this Author Only
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guess time to dust off itachi kimono from the shelf, its 50-50, either game crashes on his mystery or he stops naruto from attacking (but usually game crashes)

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On 2021-02-27 21:58:26Show this Author Only
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  • Korren On 2021-02-27 16:26:20
  • Danzo and Puhlease are right about Naruto BT being a toxic ninja and that everyone will be able to get and just slap on any random team. And yeah the fights don't seem to be going 10 rnds again like they did before (because Naruto has scaling now), 3-5 rounds seems like the average if you are similar power, but like Danzo said that's way too long in SWB or TG.


    But the issue is, you guys seem to be insinuating that only bad players will use BT SOSP because they want something easy and cheap, meanwhile smarter players will just use counter teams. Let me tell you, as an experienced player using probably one of the optimal f2p counter-SOSP teams (BT GNW Madara, BT Rinnesasuke, and BT Nagato), it's not even that good of a counter. In arena it's decent, I've won at least 50-60% of matches vs SOSP I've faced so far, but admittedly that number may be skewed because some of the opponents were running bad teams with him (like, him and 3 other traditionally "pos 1 ninja"). In regular pvp though, it's not even that good of a counter versus people around my own power. Someone around my power that I was beating easily just before the BT was releases can now wreck me. It has nothing to do with our skill.


    I also hate having to run this strictly counter-SOSP team. Literally the whole team is built around beating, or, more realistically, checking, one ninja. Sure, there were meta teams and counter-teams in the past, but I would say it hasn't been this drastic for a while. The team I was using before was versatile enough to go up against Kisame teams, Shisui teams, Minato teams, etc. and win. This was true for other well-built teams using the major meta players in the pre-BT SOSP era, too. But now by putting everything into checking SOSP, my current team is now less effective against any formation that doesn't use him. Of course the choice to still use it is based on the reasoning that due to Naruto's wide accessibility more people will now be using him than not, but still, like I said, it's not even really a hard counter.


    Until more ninjas from CN are released here, like NY Tobirama and BT for Izanagi Danzo, there really isn't a truly viable counter to SOSP for f2p other than a) getting him yourself, and then b) being faster and more stacked than your opponent. It's disingenuous to say that only bad/lazy players will use him when he has made the meta so centralizing that pretty much everyone who wants to meaningfully compete is forced to use him. I mean, players are beating people 200k, 300k+ above themselves just because they use him and the opponent doesn't. Sure, whales can keep using Kisame blitz teams in timed pvp events, but based on how I've just been seeing people 300k below their Kisame opponent win using SOSP, even that is kind of risky.


    Ultimately, it's fair to hate him for slowing stuff down in pvp, for being cheap, etc., but what I hate him most for is how he's ruined our meta that used to be relatively diverse right before his BT introduction.

It's a fair point to bring up that when new BT is added on China for an event P1 ninja that is available via coupons, people have asked for it. The only exception was madara 10 tails. The need to constantly ask for the BT when it is expected to come signals they want those BT to improve their lineups. If they asked for madara, I wouldn't have made this point since f2ps can't access madara (smh Oasis).


You pointed out that there aren't that many counters to naruto but for fasting events like sage and training grounds, using the faster teams matters over trying to counter a team honestly. So far just from the 2 days, only a 2-4 whales decided to try naruto and 1-2 competitive f2ps who have kisame switched over to naruto. However, those f2ps dragged the matches an extra 1-2 rounds. I don't care if whales use naruto as the impact is insignificant for a f2p. My issue with Naruto is that dumb people will use him in events where you need to be fast and so far, my point is being proven. They already have faster teams but are using naruto. I will expect the non active players to catch in getting the BT because they have no other options.

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On 2021-02-28 04:07:17Show this Author Only
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"I wouldn't have made this point since f2ps can't access madara (smh Oasis)"

but... but... daiske said madara is a special ninja

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On 2021-03-03 10:53:53Show this Author Only
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From the silent majority who log in every week but do not take the time to say it, Thank you very much.

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