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  • Danzō On 2021-02-25 08:57:25
  • Remember when you disagreed about my "putting in the work" comment? These are the type of players who will most likely use naruto. They want to get the OP characters/skills without putting the least amount of effort. Everyone wants that but they expecting it while that isn't realistic based on how Oasis handles this game. Figuring this out isn't hard. They don't care if it ruins the gaming experience of others as long as they think it helps them be better due to their lack of knowledge in figuring out better tactics. The players who uses all carry ninja in team without any support, the players who use outdated support ninjas when they should already gotten a better one in events. and the type of player who hasn't stacked their P1 - yes they still sadly exist in older servers.


    If people cared about playing the game competitively, they would be active and gain coupons on a routine basis so they can spend efficiently as a f2p. If they don't care and don't want to treat it as a job like you and many others have mentioned in the past, you get these type of players. Honestly, I expect majority of them not using great supports and continue to use the killer bee and gaara/edo roshi combo as it was quite common. It was very easy to counter but having to fight tons of these while will drasticly slow my experience in events where you need to be fast like sage or training grounds. Someone mentioned here that they expect matches don't go over 5 rounds - that's still slow for those type of events.



Danzo and Puhlease are right about Naruto BT being a toxic ninja and that everyone will be able to get and just slap on any random team. And yeah the fights don't seem to be going 10 rnds again like they did before (because Naruto has scaling now), 3-5 rounds seems like the average if you are similar power, but like Danzo said that's way too long in SWB or TG.


But the issue is, you guys seem to be insinuating that only bad players will use BT SOSP because they want something easy and cheap, meanwhile smarter players will just use counter teams. Let me tell you, as an experienced player using probably one of the optimal f2p counter-SOSP teams (BT GNW Madara, BT Rinnesasuke, and BT Nagato), it's not even that good of a counter. In arena it's decent, I've won at least 50-60% of matches vs SOSP I've faced so far, but admittedly that number may be skewed because some of the opponents were running bad teams with him (like, him and 3 other traditionally "pos 1 ninja"). In regular pvp though, it's not even that good of a counter versus people around my own power. Someone around my power that I was beating easily just before the BT was releases can now wreck me. It has nothing to do with our skill.


I also hate having to run this strictly counter-SOSP team. Literally the whole team is built around beating, or, more realistically, checking, one ninja. Sure, there were meta teams and counter-teams in the past, but I would say it hasn't been this drastic for a while. The team I was using before was versatile enough to go up against Kisame teams, Shisui teams, Minato teams, etc. and win. This was true for other well-built teams using the major meta players in the pre-BT SOSP era, too. But now by putting everything into checking SOSP, my current team is now less effective against any formation that doesn't use him. Of course the choice to still use it is based on the reasoning that due to Naruto's wide accessibility more people will now be using him than not, but still, like I said, it's not even really a hard counter.


Until more ninjas from CN are released here, like NY Tobirama and BT for Izanagi Danzo, there really isn't a truly viable counter to SOSP for f2p other than a) getting him yourself, and then b) being faster and more stacked than your opponent. It's disingenuous to say that only bad/lazy players will use him when he has made the meta so centralizing that pretty much everyone who wants to meaningfully compete is forced to use him. I mean, players are beating people 200k, 300k+ above themselves just because they use him and the opponent doesn't. Sure, whales can keep using Kisame blitz teams in timed pvp events, but based on how I've just been seeing people 300k below their Kisame opponent win using SOSP, even that is kind of risky.


Ultimately, it's fair to hate him for slowing stuff down in pvp, for being cheap, etc., but what I hate him most for is how he's ruined our meta that used to be relatively diverse right before his BT introduction.

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