Hello,
1) In regards to Summer Hinata, Why do you say she was supposed to be the sign in ninja, then was replaced?
We already had her as a Fireworks ninja, so it's unlikely we will get her as a Fireworks ninja again, and getting her as a Myoboku ninja after getting her as a Fireworks ninja is also somewhat repetitive. It would breed the same kind of complaints people have about, say, Suit Minato or Swimsuit Omoi or Halloweed Kabuto.

2) In regards to Itachi Anbu,
He is certainly not a meta ninja, and he certainly falls within the power level for a Fireworks ninja, but having already been given away for free within a monthly sign-in, there are many other ninjas to be given away in a sign-in, fireworks festival event, or Myoboku Trial event than a ninja that has already been given away once. As mentioned, many players would complain to see a ninja in one of these events being given away again.

I will put your suggestions in, but please be aware that there are many others with competing suggestions that will not like this, so the suggestions may not come to fruition.
Would you like for Itachi Anbu and Summer Hinata to instead be available through events? You mention collecting fragments. That might be an easier route for you.

I definitely already responded with several.

So before I continue, I'm definitely noting that none of you seem interested when I ask about putting the ninjas in events. You just want the ninjas for free. That seems to indicate to me that you aren't actually interested in collecting the ninjas, just in "free stuff." Point in case, nowhere in this statement do you mention collecting either ninja via fragments through events: "it doesn't have to be fireworks or myoboku trial, sign in ninja would be fine if the other 2 aren't possible...but pls not 3v3 cus u never get the whole 80 frags...it's good just for 2* ninjas lol"

Only in the edit do you address it, and you pretty much write the idea off. Fragments would allow you to collect both ninjas easily while still allowing other ninjas that haven't already been given the spotlight to be addressed. Again, my point here is, everyone's complaining about the repetitions of ninjas like Omoi. There will be *more* complains from people that aren't specifically you four if Summer Hinata and Anbu Itachi are repeated. I know this for a fact because I have had complaints about these two specific ninjas come up already. People don't want these two coming up again in Fireworks/Myoboku/whatever. They want new ninjas that haven't been given out for free.

> A) "We already had her as a Fireworks ninja" i guess that best suits sakura christmas who was on the fireworks then suddenly in the next few months she is the sign in ....and i am sure of it cus my first fireworks in game was sakura christmas :(......there were many repetitions maam and i mentioned just 5, 6 by now....so ba

sed on what you said minato suit shouldn't have even been thought of as a choice for fireworks (to even be present in a poll ) cus that would have been his 3rd time this year

Again, my stance is that it's preferable that no ninjas be repeated.

> i fully understand we will have to get repeated ninjas sooner or later it's natural cus we don't get new ninjas fast enough not to need to repeat
This is not accurate at all.

> about your question because she was leaked (she was even mentioned here at forums in the official events thread) and was replaced (yes we know that all info are subject to change)

As for this, this was probably more likely an error, a change, or a copy/paste error than a leak. I'm not privy to what went on with the events at the time, so I can't say for certain, but even so, it doesn't entitle us to her.

"She was promised in a sign in and was replaced by a ninja that players could easily piece from collection. "
It's worth pointing out that she wasn't "promised" at any point.

"You say you want to avoid repetition yet at the same time there were at least several ninjas who were repeated who were given away later than her."

It's also worth pointing out that I don't directly control ninja disbur*t. As I already said, I've already submitted the suggestion for these ninjas. Just as I've already submitted the suggestions for people that actively do not want these ninjas (there are far more of those). Keep in mind that these are just suggestions. Ultimately the higher ups determine whether these suggestions will go through. There is no guarantee that any submitted suggestion will go through. Also keep in mind that you're competing with the suggestions of other players, and that there are many more other players that do not want these two ninjas given out for free than that do, mainly because there are many more older, established players that already received the ninjas for free that do not need them and would not benefit from getting more fragments. For these players, getting a new ninja they haven't seen would be more beneficial. To them, getting Hinata or Itachi again would be like getting Omoi again for you.

You may not be, but many would be. As the original poster stated, he's annoyed to see repeated ninjas like Omoi and Suit Minato given out multiple times, and this is true for many players. Many players that successfully collect a ninja on the first try are annoyed to see their hard work and dedication to the game thrown away when an exclusive ninja is given out a second time. Ninjas lose exclusivity when this is done. Some people value that. Now I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with that. I'm simply explaining their view point.

Yes, I'm sure you'd be quite OK with three to four free ninjas per month.

"1. She was. She was described in events with an adnotation that all information are final and correct but when the month came it was Paradise Kakashi."
It sounds like you're referring to this line of the weekly notification post:

> > > All information present in the game is the final and correct information.

Which specifically indicates the opposite of what you are saying. It means that anything in the event notification post is subject to change and is NOT a promise.

Re: Mizuki.
The thing you're missing is that Mizuki is just like Hinata and Itachi. There's a rabid following of his fans *just like all of you* that want him put back in events, and all of you are suffering for him this month just like you all want others to suffer for Hinata and Itachi some other month. You're not seeing the bigger picture. Personally, Mizuki wouldn't have been my choice, just as Hinata and Itachi wouldn't be. I'm not sure exactly what confluence of events resulted in him being chosen, but he must have been a popular enough decision to warrant it. Again, I think he's a poor choice, just as I think Hinata and Itachi are, but as I said, I've still put in your request, so I'm not sure why you're all still arguing. If anything, Mizuki drives home how poor a choice Hinata/Itachi is, because he is for you what Hinata/Itachi is for everyone but you.

"And if Mizuki, Omoi Swimsuit, Christmas Sakura, Suit Minato etc. etc. can be given away multiple times proving that it's not about satisfying veteran players - I don't see any reason why Summer Hinata couldn't be as well."
I never said these ninjas "can't" be put into events. I would ask that you please refrain from misquoting me. Rather, I said that there are reasons *not* to put the ninjas in events, and I stand by that. As mentioned previously, there are numerous reasons to put other, newer ninjas in these high profile events, and to relegate the ninjas you want into redeemable roles, and I stand by that. There's a marked difference between wanting the opportunity to collect a ninja and begging for the ninja for free.

As for the screenshot, it's a copy paste of the forum post, and as mentioned above, text within it is superseded by the in-game events.

Now, the reason I would press for suggesting fragments from a redeemable source is because you're far more likely to get your suggestion granted if you ask for the ninjas to be put in as redeemable fragments than as the monthly sign in or as the fireworks ninja. There's one monthly sign in ninja and one fireworks ninja per month. but there are dozens upon dozens upon dozens of redeemable ninjas each month. It's far easier to slip these two ninjas into one of these many, less valuable slots, than into one of those much more valuable high profile slots.

Surely you all can see and understand that?

While I do agree that Mizuki's fragments have been collectable piecemeal for a while, ultimately his choice as the monthly sign in ninja for January has no bearing on the ninjas you want. What it comes down to is basic economics. 60+ ninja slots for redeemables and 2 slots for free ninjas. If you press for the 2 slots, chances are good you're going to miss out. But it's ultimately up to you. I will put in the suggestion for whichever you prefer. But, seriously, be aware that the Fireworks and Monthly Signin slots are hot commodities and aren't always just going to go to player whims.

So let me know.

If you continue to use a harsh tone with me, I will lock down this thread. Please keep it civil.

I'm afraid you're misunderstanding how that bulletin works. The in-game "System Announcement" or "Update Announcement" is just a rehash of the forum update that covers the same information. The one in question that is the cornerstone for your argument was a bad copy/paste. You were not "Promised" Hinata at any point. It is the stance of the company that the final product to be delivered is whatever is in the actual game when it is released. That's what that disclaimer means. Assuming that the Update Announcement takes precedence over the actual in-game items is wishful thinking.

Mizuki has indeed been available. He's available quite regularly as individual fragments. The exact thing I'm offering to submit for you for both Hinata and Itachi, which you seem quite opposed to, interestingly enough. You only want these ninjas as a full, complete redemption for free, for some reason.

I only have Mizuki at 67/100. A quick search reveals that he was a sign-in ninja once, and featured in Great Plates twice. I also know from my duties that his individual frags feature in events like Activity Bags regularly, so individual frags pop in from time to time. So this means that you probably picked up quite a few of his frags when you did Great Plates, but many others may not have. So your large personal number of fragments is an individual thing and not necessarily indicative of the entire player base.

In regards to Hinata, I agree that she has not been available for quite a while and should be made available again. Eighteen months is quite a while. By your own logic, however, As a free ninja via the sign-in method is not the right way to make her attainable, and this is the point I have attempted to make to you again and again. She has already been made a free ninja. Others have not.The one that jumps to mind, for example, is Fukurokumaru, but I'm sure there are others I could find if I glanced through the list.

You did misquote me in your previous post.

In regards to your X/Y statement, yes, it's called opportunity cost. This is the first time you all have mentioned putting these ninjas in as event redeemables rather than just getting them for free. As such, I will amend the suggestion to also include the two ninjas as event redeemables. Hopefully they can appear in an event such as Treasure of the Sage.

It's worth noting that the Collection does receive updates. GNW Shikamaru is now in there, for example.

Regardless of the argument, I'd like to you understand that it is not more reasonable to try to put her in sign-in or myoboku than events. Both of those are hotly desired slots, and if/when the higher ups decide to give a ninja out through that medium, that slot has a lot of value. There's only one of those each month. There are dozens of frag-redeemable slots each month. I can't stress enough that the monthly sign-in and myoboku slots have considerably more value than a single frag-redemption slot.

In regards to the target of your argument, I'd ask you keep that in mind when your temper flares up.

As of now, I've submitted everything that needs to be submitted for this thread, I believe. I'll keep this thread open for a few more days if you all still have anything else you need to talk about.