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On 2020-12-16 01:34:28Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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I'm even guilty on this. lol

Like the title says, its forever broken. Kisame[Samehada Fusion], Kimimaro[Halloween], and Hiruzen[Edo Tensei], run that mode. If you don't have them, you're team will most likely lose, even if your other two teammates do, unless the enemy doesn't either, but if all 3 of the enemy is using one of them for their blitz team but one person isn't, you've most likely gonna lose.3v3 has become a mode new players can't do anymore or if they do they will win if the enemy team lets them and retreats and that can take a while.

My team in 3v3 is Kimimaro, Hiruzen blitz team. And seeing victories where the enemy didn't even get to attack once. My opinion, I think they need to be nerfed for 3v3.




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On 2020-12-16 01:55:44Show this Author Only
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New player always needed to hope that

1) They would meet somene from their own server

2) They would get a retreat-win

Quite frankly, losing to those teams blitz teams aint bad. It goes fast.

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On 2020-12-16 02:21:28Show this Author Only
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  • blubberzmccool On 2020-12-16 01:55:44
  • New player always needed to hope that

    1) They would meet somene from their own server

    2) They would get a retreat-win

    Quite frankly, losing to those teams blitz teams aint bad. It goes fast.

It is fast, but it can even happen when people are running those blitz teams. New, and weak players need more of a hope than retreat wins. But with blitz, that's less likely to happen seeing its quicker to get the win than it is to wait til round 2 then retreat, so a lot of people will take all 3 wins. If people weren't using those blitz teams, new and weak people would be able to have the strong people carry them, but they cant with this these blitz teams.

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On 2020-12-16 05:04:18Show this Author Only
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Meanwhile me using Kisamehada, HalloKimi, Edo Hiruzen with Shark bomb water main...

now without messing around... They make the 3v3 arena basically unplayable. 99% of games are finished in round 1 without any option to do anything about it. Even if all 6 teams have these ninjas, its only initiative fight.

I personally love the 3v3 arena idea, however the combat is running around the 1 click meta. But same thing goes with 1v1 arena. Huge alpha ninjas or chakra boosted ninjas are basically destroying it.

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On 2020-12-16 12:06:51Show this Author Only
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  • BattleCrier On 2020-12-16 05:04:18
  • Meanwhile me using Kisamehada, HalloKimi, Edo Hiruzen with Shark bomb water main...

    now without messing around... They make the 3v3 arena basically unplayable. 99% of games are finished in round 1 without any option to do anything about it. Even if all 6 teams have these ninjas, its only initiative fight.

    I personally love the 3v3 arena idea, however the combat is running around the 1 click meta. But same thing goes with 1v1 arena. Huge alpha ninjas or chakra boosted ninjas are basically destroying it.

You Ain't Wrong About That Sentiment, BattleCrier San

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On 2020-12-16 22:14:36Show this Author Only
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Yeah I agree. The Arena mode wasn't really made for these kind of fights where you get hit with 3 Kimis/Kisames fully buffed and just wreck you before you get a chance to do anything. It's like BattleCrier said this doesn't just apply to 3v3 but also to the normal Arena mode. The ninjas are just so different nowadays than they were when the Arena mode first got introduced and it hasn't received any changes since then.




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On 2020-12-16 23:39:45Show this Author Only
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  • pizzas On 2020-12-16 22:14:36
  • Yeah I agree. The Arena mode wasn't really made for these kind of fights where you get hit with 3 Kimis/Kisames fully buffed and just wreck you before you get a chance to do anything. It's like BattleCrier said this doesn't just apply to 3v3 but also to the normal Arena mode. The ninjas are just so different nowadays than they were when the Arena mode first got introduced and it hasn't received any changes since then.

Which is why they need to rework either arena or those ninjas.

Especially kimi since he don't need breakthrough to be a problem.

Kisame is kinda fine by vertue of requiring investment to get the ninja ,get him to 4 stars and finally getting the right breakthrough.


Kimi ... Nope just recruit him and he's good to destroy ..

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On 2020-12-16 23:51:19Show this Author Only
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  • Maksys On 2020-12-16 23:39:45
  • Which is why they need to rework either arena or those ninjas.

    Especially kimi since he don't need breakthrough to be a problem.

    Kisame is kinda fine by vertue of requiring investment to get the ninja ,get him to 4 stars and finally getting the right breakthrough.


    Kimi ... Nope just recruit him and he's good to destroy ..

The scaling is the issue. Trying to rework kimi and kisame would be to hard to avoid the ninja from being useless. Tencent did not have the foresight that having three players with a P1 ninja that scales isn't good for gameplay.

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On 2020-12-17 11:21:42Show this Author Only
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the only value in the 3v3 or in any PvP anything is the prize and considering the prize anyone really wants is frags to unlock or power up a ninja it doesn't really matter to the people running the game since you can get frags from 3v3 without having to win so they don't need to fix it actually scratch that from their perspective they already fixed it enough

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On 2020-12-17 11:34:23Show this Author Only
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  • tych On 2020-12-17 11:21:42
  • the only value in the 3v3 or in any PvP anything is the prize and considering the prize anyone really wants is frags to unlock or power up a ninja it doesn't really matter to the people running the game since you can get frags from 3v3 without having to win so they don't need to fix it actually scratch that from their perspective they already fixed it enough

But if they want the random ninja frags like I like to go for, then it is an issue. Quite a few times, I have wanted the random frags over the prize ninja, just so I could have a chance on working on the edo jinchuriki. Luckily for me though I use Kimi, edo hiruzen and wb asuma for my team, so I don't have any issues, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who aren't lucky and do want the ninja frags.

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On 2020-12-17 23:06:04Show this Author Only
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  • Kamorus On 2020-12-17 11:34:23
  • But if they want the random ninja frags like I like to go for, then it is an issue. Quite a few times, I have wanted the random frags over the prize ninja, just so I could have a chance on working on the edo jinchuriki. Luckily for me though I use Kimi, edo hiruzen and wb asuma for my team, so I don't have any issues, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who aren't lucky and do want the ninja frags.

Yep And This Is The (Exact) Reason As To Why Other Players In This Community (As Such) Tend To "Complain" To A Degree That Either "Arena Is Unfair" Or "3V3 Is Unfair" Because These Players (Including Myself As Well) Know That..This Can Be A "Great Game" To A Degree (As Such Though)..It's Just That The Choices That Oasis Games (The Publisher) Make Are So Poor That..That's (Ultimately) Why The Game Turned Out The Way It Did At The End Of The Day (As Such Though)




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On 2020-12-17 23:43:06Show this Author Only
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  • Kamorus On 2020-12-17 11:34:23
  • But if they want the random ninja frags like I like to go for, then it is an issue. Quite a few times, I have wanted the random frags over the prize ninja, just so I could have a chance on working on the edo jinchuriki. Luckily for me though I use Kimi, edo hiruzen and wb asuma for my team, so I don't have any issues, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who aren't lucky and do want the ninja frags.

I was refering to the prize ninja the first 3v3 had you needing to get prize frags from all of the required wins if I remember right they added up 13-16 frags and the first 3v3 was only open for a little over a week

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On 2020-12-17 23:44:58Show this Author Only
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  • Esponix On 2020-12-17 23:06:04
  • Yep And This Is The (Exact) Reason As To Why Other Players In This Community (As Such) Tend To "Complain" To A Degree That Either "Arena Is Unfair" Or "3V3 Is Unfair" Because These Players (Including Myself As Well) Know That..This Can Be A "Great Game" To A Degree (As Such Though)..It's Just That The Choices That Oasis Games (The Publisher) Make Are So Poor That..That's (Ultimately) Why The Game Turned Out The Way It Did At The End Of The Day (As Such Though)

well its not 100% Oasis fault don't forget Tencent the Chinese server has the game they are the ones that Oasis gets this from and if they don't update or patch content Oasis can't really do anything about it

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On 2020-12-17 23:54:35Show this Author Only
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  • tych On 2020-12-17 23:44:58
  • well its not 100% Oasis fault don't forget Tencent the Chinese server has the game they are the ones that Oasis gets this from and if they don't update or patch content Oasis can't really do anything about it

But, They Can However "Send A Message" To Them Stating That The Player Base Here Is "Finding X Things Unbalanced" And For Them To "Look Into It" And See If They Can "Patch" Out Said "Exploit" (As Such Though)




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On 2020-12-18 06:20:35Show this Author Only
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It would likely be impossible to nerf ninja for specific mode only.

It is very easy to fix: 3v3 teams should follow the same rule as single lineup does: only one copy of a ninja, with exception of mains. No more 3x Samehada Kisame, 3x Edo Hiruzen, 3x Halloween Kimimaro and so on. Most teams out there are group teams to begin with, so players would be able to decide who takes who.

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On 2020-12-18 09:05:52Show this Author Only
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  • Aerth On 2020-12-18 06:20:35
  • It would likely be impossible to nerf ninja for specific mode only.

    It is very easy to fix: 3v3 teams should follow the same rule as single lineup does: only one copy of a ninja, with exception of mains. No more 3x Samehada Kisame, 3x Edo Hiruzen, 3x Halloween Kimimaro and so on. Most teams out there are group teams to begin with, so players would be able to decide who takes who.

I pretty sure it can nerf a character for mode if they wanted to. I mean in arena vs other fighting modes, only initiative matters in arena, but not the others. How did they pull that off? They can change anything in the game if they wanted to. They just need to want to. That's the only problem.

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On 2020-12-22 08:31:04Show this Author Only
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  • Kamorus On 2020-12-18 09:05:52
  • I pretty sure it can nerf a character for mode if they wanted to. I mean in arena vs other fighting modes, only initiative matters in arena, but not the others. How did they pull that off? They can change anything in the game if they wanted to. They just need to want to. That's the only problem.

the trick with that was it was done during the 1.0 days before they added in all these extra things that increase battle power it is easy to remove things as a whole but only keeping one thing on now requires a lot of code correction on what is turned off what is left on and all that extra coding takes time and money to do

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