kakuzu was very shortly lived though, at least in my cluster, he was "me
I agree on 6p that was also boring, he too was a 10 round leech spammer, but since then has been outdated, but kushi can still very much hold her own, unless you are at the pinnacle of spenders and have fully sb madara ten tails with unreal initiative there is no one character that can put a hard stop to kushi, that is what makes her op. I really hope she dies off soon, my server is almost 4 years old and each round in gnw takes around half an hour because the only other group active enough to register is run by a try hard who wants the title and sets all 40 alts with def stacking kushis and gaara kk's. You have never experienced boredom until you have faced that player
that's the thing... you had him "me
but still she have counters... for a big portion of time the other 2 examples didn't had counters, the only thing that could counter 6p was unmissable intrerupts with more initiative which there was not many back then, the other one was ay bt but at that point he was like 40k+ cp and edo minato was to be released, kakuzu was worse cuz in CN there are a lot of bt/st and ninjas against kakuzu, we got what? one or 2 ninjas to "counter him" later (also keep in mind very VERY important, some time ago CONTROL worked a lot different, nowadays you can control with pos4 enemy's pos1.... )
i think you misunderstood some of my points, first, about 6p and kakuzu, im talking about at release/btst release they HAD no real counters but kushina have as for control, some time ago, i think a year if not mistaken, it was control vs control, NOW it is calculated somehow in another manner and you can see pos2-3 150k power control 300k pos1 , is not 100% reliable but is more often possible, back then you couldn't if you didn't had the control to back it up, not sure if there are sill threads of people talking about it back then
u know who needs nerf.... Tsunade reserve seal, not kushina, besides she has been here for a while
you know what needs nerf? gatekeeping healers... in CN you can buy tsunade immortal for i think 12k-15k cp, tsunade kage is in treasure, other healers can be bought too.. here only paywall
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