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On 2020-09-04 05:48:35Show All Posts
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Rock, paper, scissors, which one is better?

Sorta the same thing.

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On 2020-09-07 02:59:01Show All Posts
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Kush can be controlled every round if timed right.

We have ninja that can make other ninja disappear for the entire fight.

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On 2020-09-08 10:50:43Show All Posts
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  • fune On 2020-09-07 05:36:02
  • please enlighten me how you can control kushi every round

    if you want to control her consistently you would need a very specific lineup of just a handful of characters - fire main, ibiki, kurenai summer, hashi new year, bee 8 tails, but there are so many shortfalls in this.

    with the exception of bee none of them have any real damage output, ibiki hits hard, once, but unless you have a nuke to finish what he started it isnt enough to take down a character with such obscene stacking as kushi.


    Not to mention that with the exception of ibiki whose control has a chakra requirement to remove your control would be removed by every fire main, every water main, most wind main, any sakura,tsunade,shizune,gakido,cee,ino,hanzo,jigokudo,kabuto, slug summon etc. There are very very very few players running teams that dont have atleast one means of removing debuffs and excluding ibiki all forms of control over immune that we currently have are a piece of cake to remove.

    She can be controlled, ofcourse but not every round, the number of characters who can easily remove control outnumber the characters who can control immune characters about 20-1.

    If you have a team with the capability to suppress immunity, consistently control the most broken character in 4 years, while also preventing healing/debuff removal and has heavy hitters who can finish kushi off before the stacking is too much and/or the immunity wears off, I would very much like to see

I see you understand the rock, paper, scissor *ogy.

Yes, she can be controlled.

Yes, there are counters to that counter.

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On 2020-09-28 19:55:17Show All Posts
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  • MrBungle On 2020-09-27 06:50:45
  • It is perfectly valid to admit that you dont have the answers you know.


    You were the one that made a claim, you said you can make kushi disappear for the entire fight, and then when asked how you accomplish the thing you are passing of as an argument you have no way to back it up so you resort to brushing it off with a condescending message? that's not cool. i am sure plenty of people here would love to know what team you use to make kushi "disappear for the entire fight". Maybe then we could finally be free of the slowest and easily worst meta we have ever had

I've had visibility to rank #50-#100 in LA spacetime for months and months. I've only seen ~5 Kushina P1 teams that are actually good out of those 50 ranks. The rest are Naruto Ronin, Edo Minato, Kakuzu, Kimi/3rd, 10Tail Madara, etc. Kushina has been in Naruto Ramen for +2 years or something close, so why don't we see more of these Kushina teams that are completely invincible? Do you really expect someone to tell you how they are beating a meta team? Figure it out on your own.

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On 2020-09-30 00:45:27Show All Posts
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  • MrBungle On 2020-09-29 22:13:50
  • You have no idea how arguments work do you?


    You made a claim.

    When asked to support your claim, you couldn't

    Instead you posted a condescending remark and patted yourself on the back as though you had accomplished something.


    And now you are using an anecdotal tale from LA servers, which cant be proved to again act as though you re right. You saying there arent many kushis proves nothing, and if polls were a thing here I could make one asking people who is the most common pos 1 character they see these days and I can confidently say it would overwhelmingly be kushi followed probably by kimi, kakuzu and a few madara jins and then ronin, but since that cant be done and I understand that means that point cant be proven I personally will not act as though that seals the point


    " Do you really expect someone to tell you how they are beating a me

    ta team? Figure it out on your own."


    Again, you cant, you are getting defensive because you cannot support your own words, if she was so easy to beat she would not be meta, and if you somehow had a team that could consistently and easily counter her other people would have figured it out or copied your supposed galaxy brain strategy. Burden of proof is on the person making the claim yet you are unable to provide any proof at all of your claim and clearly you think that talking down to other players proves you right, that is all that is happening here




The LA Spacetime ranking is not a fictional poll. The LA Spacetime ranking is objective and not my opinion. People pay thousands of dollars to win in this game. A Spacetime ranking that does not show the majority using P1 Kush says everything.


You ignored what I said. If she was unbeatable and has been around for years, and still is, why doesn't everyone use her in an event where the speed of the fight is irrelevant? Ask the higher ups in your server why they don't use her. As for answering you with a question of my own, I will not discuss the ninjas I use for all of my competition to see and copy. That's why I recommend asking the veterans in your own server cluster.


The disappearing comment was referring to any ninja that can be killed (Immortal Tsunade starting in round 3) can be erased from the fight using certain jutsus.




This post was last edited by brensonlee on 2020-09-30 03:48:10.
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On 2020-09-30 04:33:02Show All Posts
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  • MrBungle On 2020-09-30 04:04:37
  • it proves nothing because what you claim to have seen over the course of months is not evidence, unless you have screenshots dating back those months supporting up what you are saying you are again just making unsubstantiated claims, hence why I said I wont act as though my argument is sealed because me simply saying that kushi is used by everyone still is not evidence, your words mean nothing, especially when you throw around claims but dont have a shred of evidence to support it and when questioned about it you get defensive and dance around the questions.


    "A Spacetime ranking that does not show the majority using P1 Kush says everything."


    No, it literally does not say everything, lets say hypothetically you were telling the truth, and LA space time top players do not run kushi currently and you had the evidence to back this up beyond reasonable doubt, that sill does not prove or say anything, your argument is that because the richest of the rich, the guys who have enough power to beat most players using just their mains and not even using auto is a reflection of the majority? thats nonsense, kushi is a character who is both broken and compeltely free, even in a hypothetical scenario where the walking wallets no longer use her that in no way shape or form signifies that the vast majority of players who are not rich people dont still use her, Space time, at least in my cluster the top spots are dominated by madara ttj, that doesnt mean he has replaced kushi or that those teams are common among the masses. The possibilities afforded to the 1% are not mirrored in the limitations of the 99% and as I said, kushi is free


    I did not ignore it did you read what I said about the poll? everyone does use her, every body, and I mean every single player in gnw uses her, most people in training grounds use her, most people in sage use her, most people in matsuri use her, even guys with over 1 mil bp use her in bonds


    " I will not discuss the ninjas I use for all of my competition to see and copy", you are just proving me right, that you cant support what you said, this is a game where most reasons to log in are pvp, yet you expect us to believe, that you of all people have created a team to counter the most cancerous meta ninja we have ever had, and yet nobody else has thought of it and nobody else has copied it despite you supposedly beating their precious meta?, and despite anyone in your server or in your cluster being able to see your lineup, even when you are not online?. This is not a game where you can hide your team and you claim to have achieved something that the entire community has not done, because kushi is still everywhere. even the mod in my server runs her in gnw because he, (or she, I dont know them personally),know as strong as they are they cant compete with 3 waves of def/res stacking kushi single handedly, yet you are saying you dont want to provide evidence for your claim because you would rather hide your team, that makes no sense and is a clear cop out


    This has gotten out of hand, you can continue to ebrag about something you are not capable of and I will continue to believe what my eyes see and believe in evidence and reasoning. There is nothing more to be said, I have no problem with discussions, but hurling wild claims about you achieving something that alters the balance of the meta and therefore the game but respond to questions with dodges and condescension and try to brush off the burden of proof you brought on yourself by saying you want to hide your team even though it is already publicly visible..... that's just a waste of time

Everyone can look up the Spacetime ranks #1-200. Everyone can literally watch the strongest lineups battle in the tournament. Watch for yourself in a couple weeks.

As of this edit, #1-22 in LA Spacetime do not have Kushina in their lineup at all, not even their 5th-7th ninja in their extended lineup. #23 has Kushina as a P1. So much typing and all you had to do was look it up yourself.


Hours after that last edit we get news that every account will now have her. Pray they take her out of events for a long long time or you're gonna be so screwed, MrBungle. For anyone still reading this, Naruto Ramen has had her for +2 years for only 140 coupons per frag. Good luck to all the immortal, unbeatable, auto-win Kushina lineups!




This post was last edited by brensonlee on 2020-09-30 19:24:05.
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On 2020-09-30 19:27:28Show All Posts
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  • MrBungle On 2020-09-30 19:15:37
  • you ignored 99% of my points and arguments and are now saying that at this moment in time the richest people in a different region not using kushi is evidence that kushi is not common and proof that you, a terrible player like you, has created the perfect anti kushi team? Way to go, still dont understand how evidence or critical thinking works do you


    How is hiding your team an argument, in a game where your team is publicly visible cross-server, even when you are not here?

    How does a handful of very wealthy players indicate that the vast majority of players do not use kushi?

    How do the current lineups in LA support your claims that you are high in LA server?

    that you have been watching the top spots for months?

    that over the course of said months you have not seen kushis?


    You have done nothing but make claims, boasting about your abilities, yet when a simple question of providing proof of any of your absurd claims come up, you get bitter and defensive and conveniently gloss over the arguments

Her best lineup is entirely F2P. Have fun and don't forget to stay safe!

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