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Hello guys ! Here I come. Iv got those ninjas that I really enojy playing. Iv been playing this lineup with Kakuzu Earth Grudge [full bt] and it was awesome that extra attack for sasuke, but overall, nothing much happened. Im winning only cause of power. Not a strong combination of ninjas. So I would like to ask which ninja or what you will change in this lineup or for which ninja should I aim for and overall opinion on that combo. I was thinking maybe madara will be nice there or. What do you guys think ? Aim high please :-)

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There is my main team in use now :


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On 2020-07-10 02:43:08Show this Author Only
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Try Iruka since he buffs the whole team

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On 2020-07-10 04:09:22Show this Author Only
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In response to the above poster: Iruka doesn't buff the whole team, only Konoha units. So Kakuzu does not get the buff and shield. There are better options.


Sorry in advance for this long answer. I have used BT Rinnesasuke for a while now and I have a lot of opinions on him and how to support him lol. But if you read it all it will be helpful.


First of all OP, when you say you're thinking of Madara, which one do you mean? Founder Madara and GNW Madara go well with Rinnesasuke but Edo Release Madara, not so much. Sasuke and Kakuzu rely on chakra and Edo Madara's barrier prevents you from getting chakra. So I would not suggest going for him at all for this team/based on the ninjas you have. The other two are fine.


Right now, you don't have a ton of ninjas you could swap out into this team. But I don't think you should take out Kakuzu, you should take out Summer Kakashi and replace him. Kakashi does give that attack buff round 2 but if you are not consistently faster than your opponents it's not worth it in a team like this. Rinnesasuke is not the most tanky ninja and considering some of the most common ninjas right now (Edo Minato, SOSP, Kakuzu) deal wind damage, which Sasuke is weak to, having Kakashi lower his def and res in round 2 means Sasuke may not even survive. And in my opinion, Rinnesas is a ninja you need to survive into round 3 because that's when his mystery starts doing a ton of damage (assuming you have and are using the Y+1 mystery and the +2 scaling passive, which you should be).


Imo, your best option right now is to switch Summer Kakashi with Susano'o Kakashi (and switch to Fire main):

Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 3

At least Sasuke and Kakashi's mystery will be unmissable. Also I think Fire main is more safe than Lightning. Lightning makes Sasuke immune for 2 rounds but someone like Edo Itachi could just override that I think, and Kurenai, Ibiki, NY Hashirama definitely can. On a Lightning team if they immobile/chaos Sasuke after Kakuzu heals, you can't do anything about it. With Fire main you can set up his shields and negate that (even Edo Itachi, because you will generate 40 chakra before your action). Plus you can get more chakra from the main per round (20 vs 40).


This team doesn't have very long chases/combos but that's because if you do the version with the highest combos, you lose out on Kakashi's chase which causes immobile. See, the combo off Sasuke's mystery in this team looks like this:

Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 3

And in the "higher number of combos" team it looks like this:

Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 3

Yeah there are more hits. But Kakashi's chase doesn't trigger (I can't figure out a way to have both a bunch of chases and for it to trigger, I tried with Lightning main too. It's bc it chases knockdown and he's in pos 4, but others who chase knockdown will always chase before him because of position order). In my opinion, that immobile might be more useful than triggering Sasuke's chase twice here (see next paragraph for why). The stats decrease from Sasuke's chase is also nice but idk. You can try both combos. I personally don't like using teams that don't have a chaos/immobile/accupuncture off of the pos 1 mystery's combo but that's just my preference.


You probably already noticed this, but even if you hit an immune ninja who is about to do their mystery with an attack that causes immobile/chaos/acupuncture, it won't actually cause that status to them but it will stop their mystery. This is really valuable imo. It's not gonna work against Minato unless you wait to proc his first universal dodge, because even tho Sasuke's mystery will hit he will dodge the chase. So if you're facing a dodge ninja don't target them. Target the team's most important support or whoever else is mysterying.


That's just a temporary team tho. The best ninja you can get to put in pos 4 in the short term, imo, is BT Chunin Shikamaru. He supports Hidden Jutsu users (Sasuke, Fire main), can decrease Sasuke's cooldown and increase an opponent's cooldown, and he generates chakra. He has a chase that causes immobile but it fits in much better with a longer combo sequence. The team is like this:

Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 4

But you do want to have his BT. Top priority are his passive (+2 or Y+2, your choice), mystery (Y+1), and his first chase, the flame one (Y).


In the long term, you can work on getting GNW Madara and Edo Nagato. They work well with Rinnesasuke too.





This post was last edited by Korren on 2020-07-10 04:15:38.
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On 2020-07-10 20:34:35Show this Author Only
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  • Korren On 2020-07-10 04:09:22
  • In response to the above poster: Iruka doesn't buff the whole team, only Konoha units. So Kakuzu does not get the buff and shield. There are better options.


    Sorry in advance for this long answer. I have used BT Rinnesasuke for a while now and I have a lot of opinions on him and how to support him lol. But if you read it all it will be helpful.


    First of all OP, when you say you're thinking of Madara, which one do you mean? Founder Madara and GNW Madara go well with Rinnesasuke but Edo Release Madara, not so much. Sasuke and Kakuzu rely on chakra and Edo Madara's barrier prevents you from getting chakra. So I would not suggest going for him at all for this team/based on the ninjas you have. The other two are fine.


    Right now, you don't have a ton of ninjas you could swap out into this team. But I don't think you should take out Kakuzu, you should take out Summer Kakashi and replace him. Kakashi does give that attack buff round 2 but if you are not consistently faster than your opponents it's not worth it in a team like this. Rinnesasuke is not the most tanky ninja and considering some of the most common ninjas right now (Edo Minato, SOSP, Kakuzu) deal wind damage, which Sasuke is weak to, having Kakashi lower his def and res in round 2 means Sasuke may not even survive. And in my opinion, Rinnesas is a ninja you need to survive into round 3 because that's when his mystery starts doing a ton of damage (assuming you have and are using the Y+1 mystery and the +2 scaling passive, which you should be).


    Imo, your best option right now is to switch Summer Kakashi with Susano'o Kakashi (and switch to Fire main):

    Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 3

    At least Sasuke and Kakashi's mystery will be unmissable. Also I think Fire main is more safe than Lightning. Lightning makes Sasuke immune for 2 rounds but someone like Edo Itachi could just override that I think, and Kurenai, Ibiki, NY Hashirama definitely can. On a Lightning team if they immobile/chaos Sasuke after Kakuzu heals, you can't do anything about it. With Fire main you can set up his shields and negate that (even Edo Itachi, because you will generate 40 chakra before your action). Plus you can get more chakra from the main per round (20 vs 40).


    This team doesn't have very long chases/combos but that's because if you do the version with the highest combos, you lose out on Kakashi's chase which causes immobile. See, the combo off Sasuke's mystery in this team looks like this:

    Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 3

    And in the "higher number of combos" team it looks like this:

    Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 3

    Yeah there are more hits. But Kakashi's chase doesn't trigger (I can't figure out a way to have both a bunch of chases and for it to trigger, I tried with Lightning main too. It's bc it chases knockdown and he's in pos 4, but others who chase knockdown will always chase before him because of position order). In my opinion, that immobile might be more useful than triggering Sasuke's chase twice here (see next paragraph for why). The stats decrease from Sasuke's chase is also nice but idk. You can try both combos. I personally don't like using teams that don't have a chaos/immobile/accupuncture off of the pos 1 mystery's combo but that's just my preference.


    You probably already noticed this, but even if you hit an immune ninja who is about to do their mystery with an attack that causes immobile/chaos/acupuncture, it won't actually cause that status to them but it will stop their mystery. This is really valuable imo. It's not gonna work against Minato unless you wait to proc his first universal dodge, because even tho Sasuke's mystery will hit he will dodge the chase. So if you're facing a dodge ninja don't target them. Target the team's most important support or whoever else is mysterying.


    That's just a temporary team tho. The best ninja you can get to put in pos 4 in the short term, imo, is BT Chunin Shikamaru. He supports Hidden Jutsu users (Sasuke, Fire main), can decrease Sasuke's cooldown and increase an opponent's cooldown, and he generates chakra. He has a chase that causes immobile but it fits in much better with a longer combo sequence. The team is like this:

    Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 4

    But you do want to have his BT. Top priority are his passive (+2 or Y+2, your choice), mystery (Y+1), and his first chase, the flame one (Y).


    In the long term, you can work on getting GNW Madara and Edo Nagato. They work well with Rinnesasuke too.


Thank you for much advice.

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On 2020-07-10 20:35:14Show this Author Only
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Thanks for advice. I appreciate it. I will try it.

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  • Korren On 2020-07-10 04:09:22
  • In response to the above poster: Iruka doesn't buff the whole team, only Konoha units. So Kakuzu does not get the buff and shield. There are better options.


    Sorry in advance for this long answer. I have used BT Rinnesasuke for a while now and I have a lot of opinions on him and how to support him lol. But if you read it all it will be helpful.


    First of all OP, when you say you're thinking of Madara, which one do you mean? Founder Madara and GNW Madara go well with Rinnesasuke but Edo Release Madara, not so much. Sasuke and Kakuzu rely on chakra and Edo Madara's barrier prevents you from getting chakra. So I would not suggest going for him at all for this team/based on the ninjas you have. The other two are fine.


    Right now, you don't have a ton of ninjas you could swap out into this team. But I don't think you should take out Kakuzu, you should take out Summer Kakashi and replace him. Kakashi does give that attack buff round 2 but if you are not consistently faster than your opponents it's not worth it in a team like this. Rinnesasuke is not the most tanky ninja and considering some of the most common ninjas right now (Edo Minato, SOSP, Kakuzu) deal wind damage, which Sasuke is weak to, having Kakashi lower his def and res in round 2 means Sasuke may not even survive. And in my opinion, Rinnesas is a ninja you need to survive into round 3 because that's when his mystery starts doing a ton of damage (assuming you have and are using the Y+1 mystery and the +2 scaling passive, which you should be).


    Imo, your best option right now is to switch Summer Kakashi with Susano'o Kakashi (and switch to Fire main):

    Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 3

    At least Sasuke and Kakashi's mystery will be unmissable. Also I think Fire main is more safe than Lightning. Lightning makes Sasuke immune for 2 rounds but someone like Edo Itachi could just override that I think, and Kurenai, Ibiki, NY Hashirama definitely can. On a Lightning team if they immobile/chaos Sasuke after Kakuzu heals, you can't do anything about it. With Fire main you can set up his shields and negate that (even Edo Itachi, because you will generate 40 chakra before your action). Plus you can get more chakra from the main per round (20 vs 40).


    This team doesn't have very long chases/combos but that's because if you do the version with the highest combos, you lose out on Kakashi's chase which causes immobile. See, the combo off Sasuke's mystery in this team looks like this:

    Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 3

    And in the "higher number of combos" team it looks like this:

    Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 3

    Yeah there are more hits. But Kakashi's chase doesn't trigger (I can't figure out a way to have both a bunch of chases and for it to trigger, I tried with Lightning main too. It's bc it chases knockdown and he's in pos 4, but others who chase knockdown will always chase before him because of position order). In my opinion, that immobile might be more useful than triggering Sasuke's chase twice here (see next paragraph for why). The stats decrease from Sasuke's chase is also nice but idk. You can try both combos. I personally don't like using teams that don't have a chaos/immobile/accupuncture off of the pos 1 mystery's combo but that's just my preference.


    You probably already noticed this, but even if you hit an immune ninja who is about to do their mystery with an attack that causes immobile/chaos/acupuncture, it won't actually cause that status to them but it will stop their mystery. This is really valuable imo. It's not gonna work against Minato unless you wait to proc his first universal dodge, because even tho Sasuke's mystery will hit he will dodge the chase. So if you're facing a dodge ninja don't target them. Target the team's most important support or whoever else is mysterying.


    That's just a temporary team tho. The best ninja you can get to put in pos 4 in the short term, imo, is BT Chunin Shikamaru. He supports Hidden Jutsu users (Sasuke, Fire main), can decrease Sasuke's cooldown and increase an opponent's cooldown, and he generates chakra. He has a chase that causes immobile but it fits in much better with a longer combo sequence. The team is like this:

    Screen Shot 2020-07-09 at 4

    But you do want to have his BT. Top priority are his passive (+2 or Y+2, your choice), mystery (Y+1), and his first chase, the flame one (Y).


    In the long term, you can work on getting GNW Madara and Edo Nagato. They work well with Rinnesasuke too.


No you don't get it... im saying take out kakuzu and replace him with iruka...that's a possible option since he has kakashi summer and sasuke rinne

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On 2020-07-11 03:21:24Show this Author Only
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  • jtrainer22 On 2020-07-10 23:42:58
  • No you don't get it... im saying take out kakuzu and replace him with iruka...that's a possible option since he has kakashi summer and sasuke rinne

I still don't think that's a good idea. Full BT Kakuzu is a far better support in this case than Iruka, who he doesn't have BT for.

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On 2020-07-12 01:01:33Show this Author Only
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Well I try this team for a day. and its not bad actually. That Kakashi susano mystery is kinda *ty but overall I like it alot. Im focusing on getting that shikimaru. Also guys you can post your own teams if you want.

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On 2020-07-12 11:58:21Show this Author Only
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Yo,the best option would be using this one you have right now,for the better one i say sasu rinne/kimi hallowen/lightin/kakashi summer is the most fun one "nuke" to play,so if u lookin for some having fun with big number's,would save for that kimi,otherwise the team for rinne sasu who had the biggest succes for me was sasu rinne, edo nagato full BT (just collect him from scroll section,edo tensei scroll),earth main (can be lighting or fire but i prefer earth for using the nagato BT passive to make sasu immunite) and shikamaru chunin BT (same as nagato,just reedem him for free from scroll section,he's worth it)making sasu more tanky/more able to crit,kinda risky team but overall solid imo,good luck. proxy

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