this, kakuzu is very rare these days, i encounter sometimes in arena but no one in my server runs hims anymore the days of kakuzu, edo itachi and kimono konan are gone, and between bonds, sage and xgnw I come across maybe,*maybe* 2 kakuzu teams per weak

60% of matches are kushi/gaara combos which are indescribably boring, and when * players use them in gnw a single round goes on for like half an hour.

39.9% are minatos, who even with huge power disadvantages and if they only have the +1 break, dodge every single standard attack .

the remaining 0.1% are people who treat this video game as a video game and run teams requiring at least some measure of player input.

different strokes for different folks and all that, but I will never understand why the overwhelming majority of people here are just bank machines, they put money into a game, so an AI can auto run a pre-set team, because as I said they are too dumb or too boring to even try and experiment with the hundreds of characters here, and these characters, who surely you cant deny are broken as hell(?), are the epitome of that problem. tenten blitz/root/edo hiruzen/triple healer teams/kakuzu grudge sb/nagato sb, there have always been annoying teams but these characters take it to a new level, broken AND boring AND slow AND single character carries AND easily redeemable, meaning they are more common than any other annoying meta that came before them . where does the fun or gameplay come into that? it doesnt and I dont get it, If i was so dependent on auto and other peoples ideas using unbalanced characters I would quit, logging in would bring no fun, you are not playing a game

I don't even mind losing, I am happy enough running my ever changing fun teams, but I still wholeheartedly believe in the 3 years I have been here, these characters are the most unbalanced of them all and it really should be addressed

gaara is the farthest thing from weak, super armour and the highest self heal percentage in the game and scaling def/res and strong shield stacking. Ignition/poison or ninjas like sasuke rine/summer kakashi etc can hurt him sure, but even if you can consistently ignite him he can still endure multiple rounds all the while stacking shields like an mf-er.

there are many words you could use to describe gaara since they give him these completely out of character breaks, but weak is certainly not one of them

yeah, thats what I do, I still change my teams because as I said, if I used meta I would be so bored I would quit within a week. But ibiki has become a staple member of my lineups, even so though I really wish something would be done.

Difficult ninjas, annoying ninjas, slow ninjas, broken ninjas I can deal with them all, and it is fun coming up with different methods of trying to take them down, but characters that are all of those things in one monotonous beyond compare package is such a drag to face over and over and over again, just a few minor tweaks would allow those characters to still be strong, but not outright broken

thank you!

even bee 8 tails, an event only character who is either very expensive or very time consuming to 4 star and then get sb's for doesnt heal that much and even then, bee has immunity but not super armour or stackable def/res so while he can be slow he doesnt feel broken, there is a level balance in his skillset. Gaara though it's too much, as you said even without completely removing the heal but lowering the percent, he would still be an easily obtainable S tier support ninja, but wouldnt be game altering slow in the process

You are completely right, it is actively discouraged, and I wont pretend I can talk for the experiences that other people have here, but in the past the metas have been tedious but not unstoppable, you lose more than you win, but you could experiment and you could find methods to atleast make the bad players have to work for their wins, but these days that is no longer the case, either you run one of the characters mentioned above or you lose, plain and simple.

Experimenting and creating with teams has never been rewarded here but it has never felt so punished as it does now:

run one of the characters that every single other player runs and have spent more money than them= 10 boring rounds, but you win, if you can call it that

Use any other characters and/or not be as rich as your opponent = still 6-10 boring rounds, and then you lose

I cant remember the username but somebody summed up summer kakashi perfectly, he is a glass cannon, he buffs attack/nin but weakens def/res plus he is pretty fragile from the get go, if you have a full buff/bltz/high combo team you can maybe take him out of the picture in round 1, the only problem is init, if you dont have the init then it is a problem because surviving his undodgeable buffed mystery is tough, but then again any first position character with higher init than you is a problem.

In that case you would need tanks/healers and/or units to remove any other buffs/barriers on kakashis side of the field, he is tough thats for sure, but he is manageable

as for kurenai summer, her mystery is nice but she is not OP, her mystery is useful but fire main, edo itachi, regular kurenai, ningendo can reflect it

and as far as I know unlike edo itachi and ibiki there isnt a chakra requirement to remove the status so any debuff clearer/healer/slug summon can undo it.

I wont dimini* if she is challenging to newer servers, but overall in the current state of the game she is a nice support, but nothing you can't contend with

Personally I only had 3 suggestions for opening this thread

1: address edo minato, in multiple ways

stop putting him in every single event cycle, he has been in fuku more than any other character ever, and has been in more redeemable events than any other character already.

fix his breaks, whether the skill or the description itself, the description currently says it increases evasion against standard attacks by 50% but that is nonsense, I have 25k combo, I dont know if that is low or not but mine cant dodge anything, yet players with 1/10th my power can dodge every standard for 10 rounds. Ideally I would say lower the dodge rate, I am sharing my personal experience, but that is not the basis for my suggestion, I dont care if I personally have a broken minato, the characters dodge skill is op and that is what I suggest be nerfed

2:address kushi red hot: maybe reduce the rate of her scaling abilities or the 20% health recovery

3:address gaara kk, giving him the strongest self heal is broken,

remove or even simply reducing it ,no, not the same rate as bee, I used bee as an example to show how broken gaara is, gaara already has super armour and scaling def/res which offsets the need for such a strong self heal, if he has to have it, it should at least be lower than that of bee.

Those were my suggestions for opening the thread, the other characters you mentioned you would need to wait for replies from others, none of the characters you mentioned below minato are ones that I personally think need nerfed, definitely not ibiki/summer kakashi/summer kurenai

is this your main account or *t, because that is untrue.

blitz a kushi in 1 or 2 rounds? really? I have faced kushis whose power is more than 200k lower than mine, and my teams cant kill them. even round 1 they can heal 20, potentially 40% of health just from their passive, thats not taking into account healers or characters that add leech abilities, *and* they can stack their def/res by upwards of 24%

and gaara cannot be "easily" countered, ignition takes 8-10 rounds to take down a gaara, even if you can consistently ignite, gaaras scaling def/res mean the rest of damage is negligible so ignition alone is very slow. and if you have read posts of mine in the past you know I am someone who likes to experiment a lot, even with fire main causing ignition whilst buffing his nin every round teamed and an sb hanzo causing strong poison gaara's with similar or even lower power can still endure for upwards of 5 rounds. achieving nothing but wasting both players time

and your argument about f2p is a weird one, firstly because f2p has never been oasis priority, they want money, so it is a strange appeal to ask a company to keep in mind non contributing players while they have an event on asking for $2000 for the latest character, and regardless of that my suggestion wouldnt stop them from being powerhouse carries, it would just make them less broken, there is no balance in their skillets whatsoever, reducing the percentages of their passives, they would still be carries, they would still be easily attainable and would still be god tier characters, they just wouldnt be as slow or as game breaking, as someone else in this thread said, gaara having a 5% is ridiculous, even if you ignore the inconsistency with gaara for some reason being turned into the medical god of naruto online, giving him a higher self heal percentage than actual medical characters and characters who have self heal because they need it to compensate for not having strong def/res is unbalanced, plain and simple.

If you think these characters are "easy" to counter, you are either in a new server and you have an overwhelming power advantage or you have not been here that long, i would never try to force someone to agree with my opinion, but you cannot say these characters are "easy" to counter, if they were easy they would not be meta, people would not have set aside kakuzus/6p/edo hiruzen/naruto ronin/earth main itachi susano blitz in favour of them, they would not have stopped pursuing other characters because gaara and kushi are so broken that nobody else matters, they would not be what every single player uses in space time and gnw and swb, They cant simultaneously be meta and "easy to counter", thats an oxymoron right there, and within 30 seconds of logging in you can see that they are definitely the most common meta and it isnt even close

but anyway as Tachibana said this thread will be getting locked and or deleted soon so this topic is probably dead now, but I stand by my suggestions, those characters can be nerfed to a level where they are still strong, but not unreasonably broken