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AZURE FANG GUIDE"FOCUS CONTROL TEAM"
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Version History
Version 1.00, 2016-09-20 : CreatedVersion 1.05, 2016-09-23 : Correctly attach an image for ninja talent and formation by Sanamabits (thank you for the edit Mr. Sanamabits)Version 1.10, 2016-09-24 : - Add "comboes" section that will show reader how the combo work- Slightly change the interfaceVersion 1.20, 2016-09-27 : - Add "Version history" section- Slightly change the interface- Add "In-Depth *ysis" section- Change the title from " a guide to stay competitive using F2P ninjas" to " A Guide to stay competitive if you dont have OP/Rare ninja"- Move the "FAQ" section to page 1, article #2- Add "Alternative Team" sectionVersion 1.21, 2016-09-29 :- Add more team to "Alternative Section"
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INTRODUCTION
Hello, fellow ninjas, its me your average guy from server 44 deidara, XYZDream.
so as the tittle said, i wanna make a guide for azure fang user using ninja that can be upgrade to 5 star via elite instance (except main ). i will name this line up "FOCUS CONTROL TEAM". focus control in my term is you deal combo damage to one of enemy ninja while giving him/her debuff. for your information, english is not my native language. so i'm really sorry if i make mistake over grammar or spelling here and there.
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RULE
You need to complete this few rule i made as to make this build/line up become effective.
1. Reach level 55 and capture ninja dog shiba as summon.
2. You only need to refine equipment both ninjas on move 1 and move 2. Don't spend your refine rune on another ninjas, except your move 1 and move 2 ninja equipment already reach its maximum refine.
3. Spend your coupon wisely, dont waste it on 9 tail event because no matter what, you are a water main, and water main have an average damage in nine tail event. spend it on magatamas and mood scroll only.
4. NEVER EVER GO AUTO IN FIGHT. because fighting in auto will mess up the initiating time. So please, dont go auto .. :)

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Ninja, Talent and Formation






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Comboes
1. the combo you get if you start with naruto



2. if you start with kakashi



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In-Depth *ysis

This section will *ysis ninja i use, describing their "Class" and "Job" for now (maybe in the near future, i will add more details to this section.

1. Water Main a.k.a Azure Fang
Class: Healer
Job:
- Stall the fight with providing healing to injure teammate
- Combo Chaser
- Debuff enemy with Immobile
- Make all teammate can inflict poison with their taijutsu attack if using poison tai

2. Naruto
Class: Offensive Tank
Job:
- Tank the team with his insane high HP growth in bottom row
- Clone spammer to protect hinata
- Round 1 initiator combo if there are at least 1 clone available
- Round 2, 4, 6 (and so on) mystery initiator with his odama rasengan / rasenshuriken

3. Kakashi
Class: Heavy Hitter
Job:
- The sole ninja within the team whose objective is to inflich high damage to enemy
- Round 3,5, 7 (and so on) mystery initiator
- Combo chaser
- Debuff enemy with Ignition and Paralyze

4. Hinata
Class: Defensive Tank
job:
- Soaked enemy ninja damage in top and middle row if there are no friendly clone on the field
- combo chaser
- Debuff enemy with Accuputure

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Alternative Team
In case you got bored or you are not interest in using the ninja i list above. Here are some alternative team you c*e that maybe will suit your style. You can change the formation. The one list here is just use as an example.
1. Azure Fang + Kakashi + Hinata + Tobi.



Pros: 8 complete combo start by any initiating mystry or any 2 standard attack exclude tobi and water main. Talent and Summon is the same with my initial team.
Cons: tobi hp growth is not that high compare to naruto, but he got unyielding though. if hinata mystery is on cd, she will be a punching bag for enemy ninja in top and middle row.

2. Azure Fang + Kakashi + Hinata + GNW Kiba.



Pros: GNW kiba mystery(if akamaru not die yet) proc poison tai damage to entire enemy team, and his chase also proc poison tai to more ninja
Cons: 2nd initiator is on move 3, it will bring trouble sometimes. GNW kiba is daily sign in event for august, so maybe you dont have him rigth now

3. Azure Fang + Hinata + Kakashi + Kankuro. < Submit by Magicians (in page 3) >





Commend : Make sure to drag kankuro last to the formation, so his puppet will spawn behind hinata. This is a typical "High Risk, High Reward" team. if kankuro kan activate his mystery in round 2, the target is pretty much will dead after round 2, because kankuro mystery (if there is puppet alive) deal high taijutsu damage to an entire enemy team. And also, this team will ALWAYS make 8 combo to 1 enemy regardless who start it as long as the attack proc combo.
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to be continued in page 1, article #2.

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On 2016-09-20 15:03:32Show All Posts
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FAQ

Q. : Why this build? what its good for?
A. : 1. this build have a "TON" of debuff which include poison, ignite, accupunture, paralyze, immobile. so if you like to cc someone and make him do nothing while he get hurt by poison and ignition, go for this.
2. all the ninjas in this formation is easy to get and can be upgrade via ELITE INSTANCE.
3. if you are not facing someone who have clone or puppet in front of naruto, you can cripple his/her ninja at round 1 with naruto attack (unless all his clone got wiped in first round before he attack).

Q. : why naruto? isn't GNW kiba better?
A. : yes gnw kiba is good doing AOE damage, yes his chase also doing aoe damage. but as mention earlier i make a team that can be easily upgrade to 5 star. not everybody get 3* gnw kiba. rather th*ing 2* gnw kiba, i preffer using 5 star naruto (eventhough mine is still 4*), beside both have same condition effect from their mystery which is repulse. the point is 5* is better than 2* in my opinion. you can replace him to gnw kiba IF gnw kiba available in store.

Q. : why kakashi? he is glass cannon! better use sasuke 3*
A. : well yes, sasuke is more tankier than kakashi if you exclude kakashi clone. sasuke has more chase than kakashi, yes you were right. BUT kakashi mystery is better than sasuke IMO. why? because kakashi mystery is instant and sasuke is not. sasuke mystery need a setup before its use (he need to cast barrier first before launch kirin). if you confident enough that you can keep your sasuke barrier until next round, you c*e sasuke but change the summon. or you can replace kakashi with someone who have 2round cooldown mystery and same chase effect, but maybe you need to adjust the summon.

Q. : what the hell!! why you mo**** ****er put hinata my waifu in the back? you mo*** you waste her potential!!
A. : if you want to put your naruto and kakashi in move 2 and move 3 respectively, you can put hinata in front, and get killed by OP ninjas next round. and also you will lose to someone whose intiator are in move 1 and move 2. naruto by any mean is also a tank, he has same skill with hinata that the lower their hp, the higher their def and res. his hp growt is insanely high. and also naruto can spawn a clone in front of hinata so that if her mystery is on cd (and naruto run out of clone in the previous round) he can protect her, sweeeeet.

Q. : what this team weak against?
A. : 1. generally you will lose to someone that have higher initiative in move 1 than your naruto and kakashi.
2. you will be having a hard time facing enemy who can cause debuff immune + give shield status *cough GAKIDO cough*

Q. : is this a final line up? cant it be upgrade?
A. : well, no and yes. no this is not a final line up, yes you can upgrade(replace) the ninja listed here to someone you like, but if you can, dont neglect the cc in pursue of damage.

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CLOSING


So thats my current line up, a team that bring my rank move to rank 12 overall in my server.
hope you guys enjoy it and any feedback is highly appreciate.

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On 2016-09-24 19:46:13Show All Posts
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  • Leeesh On 2016-09-23 23:24:59
  • Isn't tonton better? Guaranteed +1 for your combos?
hello, ty for the commend, you made this old post back in first page.. :D

anyway, i believethat ninja dog shiba is crucial here, since it will link combo from kakashi fire to hinata accupunter.
kakashi (highfloat->lowfloat) => summon (lowfloat->repulse) => hinata (repulse-> knockdown).

hope this help :D
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On 2016-09-24 19:55:05Show All Posts
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  • Dym On 2016-09-24 00:48:50
  • It's pretty good i guess, but really not a fan of Naruto, and this build doesn't use every chase, and i do get that not everyone has GNW Kiba or missed third star.

    My favourite builds before i got rarer ninjas were very similiar but instead of Naruto i used Tobi or Kankuro, rest of the team was exact same as yours, but i get full 8 combo from anything with those instead of Naruto.


hello kind sir, ty for the input.
but, can you elaborate more on the part "doesnt use every chase"?
i've used this line up for like 2 weeks, and i dont remember the time i missed chase, unless:
1. you start combo with naruto mystery (you lose the summon chase)
2. you start combo with kakashi/hinata standard attack (lose 2 chase, summon chase and accupunture)

btw i'm not using naruto for chase, this team is not combo type team. i used him because of his pros, which are:
1. tanky (high hp growth)
2. have skill that make him more tanky the more he lose healt
3. his shadow clone barrage guarantee hit (ignore evasion) and cause low float.

:D
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On 2016-09-24 20:14:08Show All Posts
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  • Leeesh On 2016-09-23 23:39:33
  • Tried other summons for this lineup but nothing works. Maybe gold summons can link up but as an f2p, we're looking up for purples and blues.
hi again,
i've add picture about combo you will get using the right talent and ninja dog shiba as summon.
please check it :)
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On 2016-09-24 20:21:33Show All Posts
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  • Sanamabits On 2016-09-23 23:29:35
  • Other summons can connect broken chases that gives you not just +1 combo given that you have correct talents to link all together. :)
before edit, this post was about i asked how to post picture correctly, but now i know how to do that. sorry for inconvenience This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-9-24 20:28
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On 2016-09-24 20:55:26Show All Posts
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  • Dym On 2016-09-24 20:33:57
  • Yeh i meant the ones you mentioned. When i tried Naruto, problems i had with him is his clones are always dead, so he misses out on certain hit attack and better mystery way more often then not, especially if you are positioning his clones to take standard attacks. I think Tobi performs in his position better, he is tanky enough to stand there, you basically trade clones and one certain hit combo first round for better mystery and much higher damaging combo and ignite on attacks.
ah yes tobi. i did use him before naruto. he makes a complete 8 combo with any initiator mystery and 2 standard attack (exclude tobi standard attack). but the problem with tobi is my hinata die early than when i used naruto.
the reason is, in my server almost 80% people use line up where they put their ninjas at top and middle row, and their refine is high enough that their attack *e hinata evasion. not to mention, sometimes they have kankuro, sai or gnw kiba that have guarantee hit if condition were met.

about naruto clone wiped, from my experience it will all dissapear if you face karin/shizune that use their mystery, and their mystery hit all the clone, which is rare. other than that i never lose all the clone at round 1. after round 1, i use mystery as combo starter. This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-9-24 20:56
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On 2016-09-25 08:42:30Show All Posts
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  • On 2016-09-24 23:18:35
  • your team weakness is naruto clone can be killed easilythis is my current team
    i use chamaleon summon because you can posion 2 enermy, higher chance to immobile with it.:lol
    this fomation combo 's always 8 with each standard and mystery. :D:D
    hinata can protect naruto clones, then naruto mystery hit entire enermy team with posion.
    if you want naruto to move first, switch him in front, still 8 combos :lol
    if you want your main to move first, switch her in front, 7 combos but you still have immobile, accup, ignite..
I. i don't protect clone with hinata, i protect hinata with clone, therefore i don't really care if i lose all clone in the end of round 1.
II. to me, rasenshuriken is just a bonus, odama rasengan is more than enough to start combo on round 2 to cripple one of your ninja.
III. i don't really care about how long the combo count either. as long as all the debuff i need is placed on the target, 6 is also more than enough
IV. even if you move your naruto to move 1, it will all come down to who have higher initiative. as i stated early in my FAQ, this team weakness is facing enemy whose initiator is higher than my naruto and kakashi.
please read again my FAQ and my commend to other question in commend before making wrong assumption :)
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On 2016-09-27 10:32:12Show All Posts
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  • On 2016-09-26 23:19:49
  • Try this formation to get TON debuff >> https://youtu.be/_elD_w0b26g
hello, thanks for showing another alternative from debuff combo. i will add this team to alternative team section that i will be make later.

but, the cons from your line up is your initiator is on move 2 and move 3. i doubt that it is a good decision if your server current meta is placing initiator in move 1 and move 2. you will be outspeed by your enemies if they have initiator in move 1.

and also, the debuff place by your team to your target is just the same with debuff place by my team. yours just have a longer combo. :)
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On 2016-09-27 12:51:01Show All Posts
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  • Trismite On 2016-09-27 11:20:47
  • Hmm... I might use this since all of those characters are 4 stars for me. Thank you for this strategy. :)
hello, thank you for reading this guide.. :)

anyway, i have upgrade this guide and add *ternative team that maybe will match your style.
check it out and give it a shot.
hope you find more fun while using these teams.. :loveliness:
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On 2016-09-27 13:07:32Show All Posts
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  • haytoku On 2016-09-26 20:19:21
  • good but not the best to say, this one focuses in cc and debuffing 1 ninja only considering a lot of people run 4 dmg lineup, disabling 1 wont stop the other 3 from doing dmg to you and the bad thing is this lineup up has a low dps. if its gnw kiba 2* vs naruto 5* its obvious who would you pick but if its a 3* gnw kiba vs a 5* naruto id pick 3* gnw kiba any day simply because gnw kiba c*most guarantee a 2 stack poison in r1 and r2 to the enemies entire team gives you pick the right lineup as supposed to this single oriented lineup.
hello, thanks for the input.
but in my opinion, taking hit from 3 ninja is better than taking hit from 4 ninja.
if you can immobile 1 of their ninja, it is literally mean you are fighting with 4 ninja (you) against 3 ninja (enemy).. :D

about gnw kiba 3* vs naruto 5*, i really don't have an answer for this. it is because i don't have both them yet.
but i think i will choose naruto 5* over gnw kiba 3* simply because he is naruto ;P
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On 2016-09-28 11:44:44Show All Posts
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  • Magicians On 2016-09-27 16:10:57
  • Thoughts on this lineup?
    https://gyazo.com/4c863e5859bd4e18801f338f767ff502

    Initatior -> Kankuro
    First turn -> hinata mystery, can dodge hits for first round
    2nd turn -> Kankuro aoe attack w/poison mystery from azure fang (double stack poison)
hello, thank you for the visit and sorry for late answer.

your line up is good, the ninjas use here is really have good synergy to each other. any standard attack can proc the 8 combo.

the problem is if you place your puppet beside kankuro. i don't know if you are aware of this or not, but knakuro puppet can attract normal standard attack like hinata mystery. so if you place the puppet in front row, you'll waste hinata mystery.
my advice is to move azure to panel number 7, and move hinata to panel number 2. and also when you dragging ninja, make sure you drag kankuro last into the fromation. so his puppet will be place dirctly behind him. .

btw do you mind if i put this in the front page? if you dont mind, what should i call you? :D
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On 2016-09-28 12:30:42Show All Posts
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  • Magicians On 2016-09-27 16:10:57
  • Thoughts on this lineup?
    https://gyazo.com/4c863e5859bd4e18801f338f767ff502

    Initatior -> Kankuro
    First turn -> hinata mystery, can dodge hits for first round
    2nd turn -> Kankuro aoe attack w/poison mystery from azure fang (double stack poison)
just test it, somehow i cant place the puppet into kankuro back :O
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On 2016-09-29 12:27:44Show All Posts
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  • Magicians On 2016-09-28 13:14:59
  • I was able to place puppet behind hinata:
    https://gyazo.com/6ccff3f3c40ff7ce0bf5e3107d02a3f9

    And ya go ahead, u can put it on the page; just give me credit, my name is Magicians. Test it out for me, i plan to switch to wateer at 66. How is the line up against other ppl?
    Only reason I would use kankuro is cause i dont have GNW Kiba. Tankiness is similar but Kankuro doesnt have the proc 10 hit -> atk 3 ppl chase, really nice for poisoning talent. But Kankuro mystery puts an extra stack of poison since it causes poison + poison talent.
    This post was last edited by wat***@yahoo.com at 2016-9-28 13:16 This post was last edited by wat***@yahoo.com at 2016-9-28 13:51 This post was last edited by Magicians at 2016-9-28 13:53
hi again, sory for late answe, cant go online for too long.

i think i will use this line up.

the reason is, kakashi is glass canon, and so his clone. so make him stand behind his clone is a suicide, i think. i remember that kankuro defense is high enough to be in front, and his hp growth is the same with hinata, i think. and placing kakashi in move 3 is better than move 4. with this setup you can get 8 combo from any standard attack or mystery attack.

about the poison stack, actually, poison tai is a talent that make your entire team can inflict poison with their taijutsu attack. for example kakashi raikiri. raikiri have taijutsu and ninjutsu type, so he can proc poison to enemy since his raikiri has taijutsu type. and FYI, poison can only stack up to four layer, beyond that the poison will not add damage.
hope this help

about the fight with other people, i'm really sorry, i dont really have the time to test it. in my server, there is a few people that go online and play arena, so i can really test it. but i think that if you kankuro have higher initiative than your enemy, you will be fine This post was last edited by XYZDream at 2016-9-29 12:37
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