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[ Events ] SOSP Naruto deserves a BT?

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On 2020-02-11 22:23:14Show All Posts
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  • Scarlettblue On 2020-02-11 18:10:27
  • He isn't solid at all.

    His mystery damage output is average, his mystery and standard attack can be dodged and his dodge is just once per round.

    His main two good sides: immunity to debuffs and selfhealing are made useless by the amount of eg kakuzu, kushina, minato edo breaks that polluted the game currently.

    Basically, run him right now as a move 1 is impossible, it's just a decent move 2/3 ninja to add to your edo minato, edo hashi, water/wind main team.


    To make him a decent option again right now he needs to get sage naruto breaks on self giving chakra/debuff removal and on selfstacking atk/nin with chase and he needs to get a suppression superarmor/debuff immunity with his mystery or standard attack.

And guess what, so does Edo Minato Y Mystery can be dodged and his standard, Dodge isn't an excuse for a ninja to be breakthrough'd, if it WAS then Oasis may as well remove Dodge and even Super Armor from the game. Get out of here with your crappy reasons.

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On 2020-02-14 21:53:34Show All Posts
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  • Scarlettblue On 2020-02-14 18:48:24
  • Are you really comparing edo minato mystery with sosp naruto's?

    Are you serious?

    Edo minato mystery is by default a bigger damage mystery than naruto's (even without breaks is a 150% stats one while naruto's is a 100% one) that delivers REPULSE (naruto's delivers knockdown, a difference as big as a mountain) and tag too on whoever is not immune to debuffs.

    Once you break it you can choose between a 3 rounds version that cannot be dodged and that deals an additional 30% wind damage or a 2 rounds cd version that can be dodged and still has all the basic traits of the not broken one, besides the unmissable (but you can still easily select a clone or a weak ninja and obliterate whatever is behind it, due to repulse damage that still cannot be dodged).

    But the amout of advantage doesn't stop there.

    Unless the whole enemy team is immune to chases somehow with minato you c*ways select an enemy that doesn't dodge and trigger a combo that selfstacks atk and combo and that also lower the cd of the mystery.

    To do so with naruto (without getting any boost to your stats too) you need that your standard attack triggers the combo effect on a target (something that doesn't happen with 100% chance if the enemy combo rate is higher or comparable to naruto's or if is able to dodge it).


    So in what is minato y+1 mystery that may be dodged as much as naruto's comparable to naruto's? (without considering also the fact that there's no medical prescription that impose on you to select it in the place of the +2 version and just kill everything round 4 the same by taking full advantage of his other passive that decreases def).


    And no, removing from the game dodge or superarmor makes no sense, otherwise there would be no point in using ninjas that may ignore them and make their players pay a lot to get them.


    That said, this game unless i am hallucinating is called naruto online and if the strongest version of naruto there is in the anime isn't even close to be comparable to a very secondary ninja like his mother or with a ninja they beat before the final arc of the story like kakuzu, then there's a serious issue.

"Edo minato mystery is by default a bigger damage mystery than naruto's" irrelevant, I never argued on damage.

"Edo minato mystery is by default a bigger damage mystery than naruto's (even without breaks is a 150% stats one while naruto's is a 100% one) that delivers REPULSE (naruto's delivers knockdown, a difference as big as a mountain) and tag too on whoever is not immune to debuffs." Quoting this twice, cause it has 2 points. First, Minato can't chase his own mystery, Naruto can, also Naruto even gains leech off his chase, which can CC as well as remove buffs/shields on whatever on any ninja, as well as immobile any ninja who isn't immune.

"Once you break it you can choose between a 3 rounds version that cannot be dodged and that deals an additional 30% wind damage or a 2 rounds cd version that can be dodged and still has all the basic traits of the not broken one, besides the unmissable (but you can still easily select a clone or a weak ninja and obliterate whatever is behind it, due to repulse damage that still cannot be dodged)." Still can't CC, or even chase off his mystery or do what Naruto can provide.

"Unless the whole enemy team is immune to chases somehow with minato you c*ways select an enemy that doesn't dodge and trigger a combo that selfstacks atk and combo and that also lower the cd of the mystery." That would imply, you have the ability to chase off of Minato's Mystery.

"To do so with naruto (without getting any boost to your stats too) you need that your standard attack triggers the combo effect on a target (something that doesn't happen with 100% chance if the enemy combo rate is higher or comparable to naruto's or if is able to dodge it)." Most SoSP teams run Killer Bee 7 Sword, and they c*e standard to bait any dodges then mystery. (Only bad players use his mystery right away especially if there is a dodge ninja that will use its mystery, so you c*e it to start a CC.)

"So in what is minato y+1 mystery that may be dodged as much as naruto's comparable to naruto's?" Try this again in English as this is just a lot of words that say absolutely nothing.

"And no, removing from the game dodge or superarmor makes no sense, otherwise there would be no point in using ninjas that may ignore them and make their players pay a lot to get them." Your whole argument is "To make him a decent option again right now he needs to get sage naruto breaks on self giving chakra/debuff removal and on selfstacking atk/nin with chase and he needs to get a suppression superarmor/debuff immunity with his mystery or standard attack." Not every ninja needs to do these things such as remove super armor or debuff on immunity.

Also, apparently you forgotten when SoSP was meta, when people have complained CONSTANTLY that fights would last 10 rounds cause of P1 Naruto vs P1 Naruto.

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On 2020-02-18 21:37:48Show All Posts
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  • Scarlettblue On 2020-02-18 19:54:42
  • People will continue to forget about it until he begins to appear in mega carnival at 2400 ingots.

    That said, ronin naruto is very bad, tbh, once your move 2/3/4 aren't shenanigans, since he isn't immune to debuffs and doesn't selfheal.

    Don't think about him only from the perspective of a low power player that meets a 700k whale with a 180k+ move 1 that uses him against you.

    That same whale would destroy you in the same exact way (tbh better and faster) by using a full free option like chojuro full sb.


Naruto can heal himself through Anbu Tactics from LM and be provided an immunity to debuffs through RoW and EM's Guidance, though he'd lose the leech, in which case, you could run standard Guy instead, but I rather run Bee + Hashirama combination over Guy.

Also, I don't know why you seem to think that Minato can chase off himself when he clearly can't.

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On 2020-02-19 13:07:27Show All Posts
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Naruto [Ronin] Skill Trials when? x)

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