I didn't say is bad. I say that is not that op when you meet somebody with comparable or higher power than yours that owns initiative over you.

If a full damage oriented ninja doesn't grant you a chance to win in this condition then is not an op ninja, but just a useful one.

Edo minato sb or kushina sb, instead, are good ninjas for this very reason.

Ronin naruto is good exclusively if you own initiative and if your move 1 secondary stats are so higher than the enemy move 2/3/4 stats that those moves are there just as a decoration (since they cannot control him, they cannot deny a devastating critical hit from him and so they are just there as food for his selfstacking passive).

It's a whale only gadget good exclusively for fast stomping streaks in swb that does literally nothing in a whale vs whale environment or in arena (where control fail doesn't exist, more or less).

In general there's literally close to no reason to choose him over full sb chojuro in every situation.

P. S.

Tbh to make ronin naruto useless it's enough a faster water main together with a round 1 buff cleaner.

Take the team renji suggested: ronin naruto, edo hashi full sb, mb, bee sst.

Against water main, normal han, wb asuma, gakido full sb (a full free team) where you don't own initiative.

Round 1 han clears buff with mystery, water main round comes first, your whole team but bee is chaosed (unless you select the y+2 passive of hashi, but if you do hashi won't clear the chaos on ronin naruto).

At that point what do you do?

Even if you are able to trigger hashi chase thanks to his mystery on water main, gakido will reduce again the cd on her if needed.

If instead of edo hashi, we talk about normal hashi that's there just to boost him is even better, for obvious reasons.

An hyper op on paper team, expensive as hell, that gets nullified by a full free team with 1 more point of initiative.

Indeed good this ronin naruto.

I don't get it. Are you using Water main's punch skill or shark? Because if you're using shark, then most likely every ninja is going to be killed by Ronin Naruto round 1. Also, best Ronin Naruto team in my opinion is LM, edo Itachi and bee. The water team you just mentionned can't possibly beat a Ronin team with edo Itachi even If I don't use the dream debuff. Also you're saying that Ronin Naruto can't beat people with comparable power or more power but I already told you that I've beaten lot of meta ninja (Kakuzu, Kuhina...) who has way more power than me with my regular Ronin team.

Have you ever tried Ronin Naruto or are you just basing yourself off hypothesis? You can watch Youtube videos of him and you'll see that he already defeated Kakuzus with more than 200k power difference.

I got rid of the pictures for the opponent's privacy but I did defeat someone with twice my power level with Ronin Naruto.