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On 2019-12-12 10:22:50Show All Posts
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After seeing the post by the moderator clarifying that 40 frags would be placed instead of 80, I can't help but agree with their decision. Some people claimed that, Konan's value dropped over time, or how she's no longer in the meta discussion, completely disregarded the efforts current players put in, in recruiting her. Many players including me (not whales) who are in the process of getting her are not entirely pleased by this free frag decision by oasis due to the fact the amount of coupons and time we invested in her. Another user also said it's our problem that we decided to recruit her and how she's easily obtainable in events. Once again, if we know she's going to be free albeit 40 frags in fireworks, do you think we'd waste our time and effort in getting her? Others are saying that we should be grateful that we're getting her, and existing players can inherently make her stronger are once again forgetting that this should not happen in the first place. Literally, certain players don't need to put in any efforts in getting her. All the have to do is wait for one or two whales in their group to spend in order to redeem her frags. By using that logic of depreciated value, Edo deidara or Edo hiruzen should be released in fireworks next for free, since their value dropped over time and are no longer considered among the top ninjas in today's discussion, and players who have them can make them stronger. I don't see why players (new or old) should be treated special just because you do not have certain ninjas




This post was last edited by Joker_999 on 2019-12-12 10:23:55.
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On 2019-12-12 11:10:52Show All Posts
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  • Koncept On 2019-12-12 10:50:58
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    Did you honestly make a forum account today just to post this? I personally have been piecing AGK together to get her, but on what planet would you want less fragments of her then more? Many were working on Shisui (I just got him 2 weeks before the event) and no one complained when he has a much better kit than AGK. People who decide to pay for ninja or recruit them over time should know by now there is a chance in the future that ninja will be given away at a cheaper price or even free. This is a well known fact that you are paying coupons or ingots to get to use them earlier then others. It's how it has always worked. For those working on her or have her completed this is also beneficial to them because either they get her quicker and save coupons or are close to 4 starring her for her future skillbreaks.


    Also Fireworks event is not a whale event (yes you can, but that is not the best idea unless for rebates) it is a group effort based event by group members completing dailies and getting points. We should be encouraging Oasis to give us decent ninja's to either recruit or 4 star to help make this game a bit f2p friendly. If they want to give out 80 frags Edo Hiruzen/Deidara more power to them. Edo Deidara has skilltrials at 4 star.


    Both sides win whether you own the ninja or not. If you own them that's 80 extra frags (20 more to 4 star) in which you are close to 4 star and if they have skillbreaks you are now closer. If you don't own them then you have a chance to. There is no rational reason why people should complain everyone wins. Also it makes no sense, this event has always been 80 frags (one of the events that we actually can recruit the ninja that week) why make it 40? Stop encouraging this next it will be 20 frags so on so forth.

It's great that you pointed out whether I created an account just to post this. The straight up answer is yes since I lost my primary account's ID. You make a fair argument about having more fragments, I personally find it amusing of the amount of * hurt people who haven't recruited her, attacking the original poster who made the comment. I would only say one last thing regarding this topic, and whether you agree or disagree is entirely up to you. First and foremost, the moderator who posted the events should have stated clearly that it's only 40 frags, instead of the perceived 80 frags based on recent choices the company made in previous fireworks. Even now they didn't bother editing their post. What's even more hilarious, is that there people out here who legit believed just because one guy said a different opinion regarding the frags, oasis decided to buff it down. Do you people honestly believe there'd be such a big fish in the ocean? This is oasis we're talking about.




This post was last edited by Joker_999 on 2019-12-12 11:18:59.
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On 2019-12-12 21:44:42Show All Posts
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  • The_X On 2019-12-12 21:37:48
  • just listen how... plantish this sounds like:

    "Many players including me (not whales) who are in the process of getting her are not entirely pleased by this free frag decision by oasis due to the fact the amount of coupons and time we invested in her."

    if you or others are IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING HER why the heck you should be "not pleased" by free frags?

    "i want to make her but i dont want free parts of her" logic of 2019, we going in 2020 strong boiiisss

    (edit for a word correction)

* I never knew my comment would trigger so many people. Do you need her that badly? If so I'd be willing to pm the moderators telling them to make it back to 80 frags if you need to recruit her. From now on let's just send requests to oasis so that they give ALL ninja for free, who lost their value over time such as Konan agk etc. Much better now? By the way, you should be glad they didn't change konan with another ninja. I mean after all, free frags is loved by everyone right? So you should be closer to recruiting her at least.




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On 2019-12-14 10:39:28Show All Posts
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  • The_X On 2019-12-14 04:50:13
  • first and foremost just so you know i already have her, bought with COUPONS as a free user so dont bs me with "hope you make her" and stuff like that, but you only see your *hurtness instead of focusing on the bigger picture, free players cant get ninjas and power at the same time to compete, but i ask you this, is THAT BAD that they give her? does it hurt you so bad? what about all the ninjas that was dirt cheap or free back in the days such as minato hokage, hidan possesion, kisame fusion and so on... what about those? should i be as *hurt as you that we cant get them now? or that they was almost free back then?

    you complain just to complain, you literally sound like a plant put here just to enthuse negativity on free stuff so oasis take it away

"first and foremost just so you know i already have her, bought with COUPONS as a free user so don't bs me with "hope you make her" and stuff like that" Oops my bad because it seems to me you were really desperate to get her based on your previous comments.

"free players cant get ninjas and power at the same time to compete, but i ask you this, is THAT BAD that they give her? does it hurt you so bad?" Glad you pointed this out because I took the liberty to ask certain people in my server who were not exactly pleased as to why they aren't. The reason they gave was this. The company, in their opinion, should draw a fine line when giving out certain ninja or fragments. Since most of them are f2p players, it's literally a guessing game at this point. Whenever they decide to spend on something, they have to sacrifice another. That's how it always work (more so if you're f2p) and when the company decided to give out Shisui for free, most of them were shocked because oasis usually gave out generic ninjas like karin, sakura etc, therefore further enhancing their belief that this is the norm. Granted, those who disagree were mostly from new servers which certainly didn't help their case either. One could make the argument that this is a great time for them to obtain her for free since shisui was given weeks ago but once again, everyone would literally be spamming her in arena etc, and for them, it's not really a fun experience. I know konan or shisui are no longer considered the best, but for those who're starting out, I don't think they are going to get kkz bt anytime soon.

"what about all the ninjas that was dirt cheap or free back in the days such as minato hokage, hidan possesion, kisame fusion and so on... what about those?" I highly doubt Minato, Kisame or Hidan would ever be free, cheaper, but not free. Like I said above, oasis usually give out free ninjas that most people won't really use.

"you complain just to complain, you literally sound like a plant put here just to enthuse negativity on free stuff so oasis take it away" So it's okay for you to complain but not others? Just one thing I'd like point out. The fact that oasis didn't bother editing their post even after all these backlash, in my opinion, lends some credence to the fact that it was always 40 frags when it comes to her. Personally, I do not know why most people would believe oasis would consistently give out 80 frags in events. Admittedly, when karin, hinata etc was given out I didn't really think much because once again, like I said, they aren't exactly on the same level as konan or shisui imo. When Shisui was given for 80 frags, some people including me started thinking that there's a slight chance this would be the last 80 frag free gift they're handing out. Case in point: this week's events.

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On 2019-12-15 13:21:24Show All Posts
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  • The_X On 2019-12-15 12:08:30
  • "Oops my bad because it seems to me you were really desperate to get her based on your previous comments."

    ofc ofc "seem so desperate" ... nice attempt to comeback...

    "The reason they gave was this. The company, in their opinion, should draw a fine line when giving out certain ninja or fragments. Since most of them are f2p players, it's literally a guessing game at this point. Whenever they decide to spend on something, they have to sacrifice another."

    by your logic you can say the same about prices right? why spend now 20k on x ninja when they can make it 15k right? see how flawed is this logic? or... why to spend 20k on x ninja when i can try to get it on wheel for free... right "but thats different" sure sure...

    "Granted, those who disagree were mostly from new servers which certainly didn't help their case either. One could make the argument that this is a great time for them to obtain her for free since shisui was given weeks ago but once again, everyone would literally be spamming her in arena etc, and for them, it's not really a fun experience."

    both of them are so easy to counter is not even funny, if we was talking on 3.0 yes... but at this point you can counter them with basic GNW treasure team... but if people spend on getting as many ninja as possible instead of power... just be faster then them and you win easy...

    "I know konan or shisui are no longer considered the best, but for those who're starting out, I don't think they are going to get kkz bt anytime soon."

    the MORE reasons to get for free some good ninjas when everywhere is full of 6p, kkz, minato edo and kushina/yagura ...

    "I highly doubt Minato, Kisame or Hidan would ever be free, cheaper, but not free. Like I said above, oasis usually give out free ninjas that most people won't really use." problems reading? i never said those ninjas WOULD or SHOULD be free in future, i said what about those ninjas that was IN THE PAST, shall we all be *hurt about them?

    "The fact that oasis didn't bother editing their post even after all these backlash, in my opinion, lends some credence to the fact that it was always 40 frags when it comes to her"

    why are you dragging me in the conversation about 40vs80 when i never said anything about that? i only commented on your attitude about them giving something free... aka end of the world...

"by your logic you can say the same about prices right? why spend now 20k on x ninja when they can make it 15k right? see how flawed is this logic? or... why to spend 20k on x ninja when i can try to get it on wheel for free... right "but thats different" sure sure..." Actually, there's a difference. It seems I did not elaborate properly in my previous statement. No one player has the same approach in this game. While most players would choose to save their cps and spend wisely (like you), there are others who are just playing for the sake of playing (not really competitive). To you it might seem their logic is flawed and yours is right but like I said, the people who disagree are mostly from new servers, not old.

"both of them are so easy to counter is not even funny, if we was talking on 3.0 yes... but at this point you can counter them with basic GNW treasure team... but if people spend on getting as many ninja as possible instead of power... just be faster then them and you win easy..." Again, I never once said they are top meta or hard to counter. What you are literally doing at this point is outright comparing new servers against old servers or claiming that they all have said ninjas which is the basic gnw team. If we're using old servers as a point of logic, then yeah, you're absolutely right but the fact is that they aren't. So to say that they're easy to counter with gnw treasure is just not appropriate considering that most of them don't have even have the rares from it. And to say that just get faster and win is just absurd. Initiative is arguably the most important stat in this game, but in what world can beginners in new server have sudden boost? If they are whales or semi-whales then it's possible, but the ones I'm referring to are mostly f2p.

"the MORE reasons to get for free some good ninjas when everywhere is full of 6p, kkz, minato edo and kushina/yagura" For the third time, they are from NEW servers. How many times do I have to reiterate? You're flat out assuming that ALL the ninjas you stated are used by most beginners in NEW servers.

"problems reading? i never said those ninjas WOULD or SHOULD be free in future, i said what about those ninjas that was IN THE PAST, shall we all be *hurt about them?" Nope, no problem reading at all. Judging by the way you presented yourself in that comment, I assumed you were referring that minato etc were cheap back in the day. The reason why I said they won't be free is due to the fact that there are certain people who are demanding them for compensation. So you can ease up, it wasn't directed at you personally.

"why are you dragging me in the conversation about 40vs80 when i never said anything about that? i only commented on your attitude about them giving something free... aka end of the world..." At this point, it seems that you're the one with reading issues. No where in my last statement were you the target of my remarks. I was referring to the general public. Not you. And it's ironic that you'd say I'm acting like it's the end of the world when you're no better off yourself.





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