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On 2019-12-09 18:48:24Show this Author Only
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I beat this 4* MInato Edo Tensei with Skill Trial easy with an outdated team in arena (Kurama/Minato Hokage/ Iruka with ST and FM), my opponent had more INI and even used Kakashi Susano'o and Itachi Edo Tensei. Too bad I deleted the picture. He is very overrated.

EDIT: He also had Edo Kages Barrier if I remember correctly...




This post was last edited by xxMihai on 2019-12-09 18:49:34.
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On 2019-12-09 18:57:57Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2019-12-09 18:48:24
  • I beat this 4* MInato Edo Tensei with Skill Trial easy with an outdated team in arena (Kurama/Minato Hokage/ Iruka with ST and FM), my opponent had more INI and even used Kakashi Susano'o and Itachi Edo Tensei. Too bad I deleted the picture. He is very overrated.

    EDIT: He also had Edo Kages Barrier if I remember correctly...

its only mean that he was idiot XD XD

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On 2019-12-10 00:37:12Show this Author Only
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  • hatemore On 2019-12-08 21:36:25
  • Ahaha nice joke.. Six path is better than edo Minato sb?? Ahaha wheres part of six path is better than edo Minato? Life steal?? Do you thinkthat six path lifesteal is enough to kill edo Minato? Ahaha. 50% dodge for stadard attack for pos 1 is already op. Lol. Can six path hit edo Minato with his standard? Can he reset if he can't hit edo Minato? Ahaha.. Now if edo Minato mystery is can be dodge then do you think standard attack of edo Minato is not op to kill that * six path?? Nice joke ahaha.. Six path can't even stand AGAINS kushina and kakuzo sb.. Ahaha.. Maybe bro your brain was is in somewhere else or out of the planet ahaha

1: yes 6p leech is definetly enough to beat a minato, even if beating means outlasting and not killing


2: the 50% chance t dodge would be op,. if it worked, 4th day with sb minato and even with stubbornly using him all the time to prove myself wrong, would you like to know how many times my dodge has triggered? 6, 6 times in total


3:minato standard is not op, like I have said, scaling is great sure, but minato starting stats are bad, so out the gate his damage his weak, you need many rounds of scaling for his damage to come close to being considered OP, and as mentioned above, since mine cant dodge, keeping him alive for long enough to gain power is no small feat


4: you think minato can fair better against kushina and kakuzu than 6p? kakuzu undodgeable mystery+ double standard hitting a minato that wont dodge= unless you have a huge power advantage you are not dealing enough damage to overcome that kakuzus scaling defense and health recovery


either you do not have 6p and sb minato or your experience with minato has been the literall opposite to my experience these past few days

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On 2019-12-10 00:46:33Show this Author Only
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  • Broken Screen On 2019-12-09 06:33:26
  • Me... Anything over Naruto 6P any day. Even Konohamaru kid.

    JK

    But for me, Any top tier over Naruto 6P any day. KKZ > Naruto, Kushina > Naruto.

    Naruto has to reset with standard, Minato has chance to dodge his standard and his mystery in 1 round of turn. Meanwhile you can just bait Naruto with Minato standard and hit him with mystery over and over with scaling.

I agree I hate 6p, i got him the day he was released and i never use him, one more 10 round match on auto watching that monotonous character accomplish nothing and just leech to survive and I think I will slip into a coma of boredom.


I could happily never face or use 6p ever again, these forums seem like a bad place to post, too many idiots, not you, but in general, yeah I see why naruto fans have a certain reputation.

I made a thread sharing my first hand experience, not for a second claiming that I am stating facts, or that my minato not working should affect other peoples choices or play styles, and the replies in general are nothing short of gibberish


"duh minato is great" thank you, very clear argument who could possibly argue with this

"you dont have the same expensive team or the same sb nagato as me therefore your experience is null" - again the logical is incredible

"Shh, guys, let OP whine, don't say it out loud how good he is, we don't want him getting nerfed. " - again very useful, I especially liked the parts where you didnt address a single thing I said


one poster saying he beat an edo minato team and the reply to his post- " then he was an idiot"- wont even entertain the idea that minato isnt a god tier character, just instantly dismisses another players experience, because god forbid somebody has had a different experience than they have? how dare they.


any mod stumbles into this thread, feel free to delete please, lesson learnt, want to share your experience, maybe have an actual conversation, do not come here. Thank you




This post was last edited by PuhleaseKillMe on 2019-12-10 00:48:30.
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On 2019-12-10 12:29:44Show this Author Only
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  • PuhleaseKillMe On 2019-12-10 00:37:12
  • 1: yes 6p leech is definetly enough to beat a minato, even if beating means outlasting and not killing


    2: the 50% chance t dodge would be op,. if it worked, 4th day with sb minato and even with stubbornly using him all the time to prove myself wrong, would you like to know how many times my dodge has triggered? 6, 6 times in total


    3:minato standard is not op, like I have said, scaling is great sure, but minato starting stats are bad, so out the gate his damage his weak, you need many rounds of scaling for his damage to come close to being considered OP, and as mentioned above, since mine cant dodge, keeping him alive for long enough to gain power is no small feat


    4: you think minato can fair better against kushina and kakuzu than 6p? kakuzu undodgeable mystery+ double standard hitting a minato that wont dodge= unless you have a huge power advantage you are not dealing enough damage to overcome that kakuzus scaling defense and health recovery


    either you do not have 6p and sb minato or your experience with minato has been the literall opposite to my experience these past few days

Heh, meanwhile my Edo Minato literally dodged 10+ Ronin Naruto's standards in a single round from a guy with more BP than I did. :P

Also have been able to beat all 6PN and most Kakuzu, Kushina teams I faced so far.

6PN I faced almost never managed to reset cd even with double standards because my Edo Minato literally dodged every standard.

Kakuzu and Kushina can beat me depends on the team, but even if they do, it's usually a really close match that could have gone either way.

So either you don't know how to use Edo Minato, or your stats *s, or you just have rotten luck.




This post was last edited by MonkeyLord83 on 2019-12-10 12:39:47.
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On 2019-12-10 12:33:06Show this Author Only
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  • xxMihai On 2019-12-09 18:48:24
  • I beat this 4* MInato Edo Tensei with Skill Trial easy with an outdated team in arena (Kurama/Minato Hokage/ Iruka with ST and FM), my opponent had more INI and even used Kakashi Susano'o and Itachi Edo Tensei. Too bad I deleted the picture. He is very overrated.

    EDIT: He also had Edo Kages Barrier if I remember correctly...

Kakashi Susanoo and Edo Itachi are good options with Edo Minato, yes, but I would NOT use the 2 of them together in the same team. It's rather unwise not to have any chakras stealer in the team together with Edo Minato. I would change either one of those 2 for Ningendo SB or 5KM, and then you'd understand why Minato is not overrated.

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On 2019-12-11 20:31:16Show this Author Only
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Guys, his damage is mostly tai. Almost everybody is built to defend against nin right now.

He selfstacks, he dodges, he reduces cd, has an op bond skill and he also has a mystery that delivers REPULSE damage (that for who doesn't know it may mean that you select one clone in front of somebody and who is behind gets obliterated since many clones/puppets have very low defensive stats). What do you want more than this?

Ah and add to it that he is senjutsu, konoha, edo tensei and jinchuriki.

Do you think it's a problem if he doesn't selfheal because you need the other chase to reduce cd?

Fine, use him together with any leaching tai effects (there are quite a bunch) or use him together with edo roshi or with edo hashi or with sage naruto skill trialed, there are so many options with him...




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-12-11 20:37:26.
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On 2019-12-11 22:54:27Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-12-11 20:31:16
  • Guys, his damage is mostly tai. Almost everybody is built to defend against nin right now.

    He selfstacks, he dodges, he reduces cd, has an op bond skill and he also has a mystery that delivers REPULSE damage (that for who doesn't know it may mean that you select one clone in front of somebody and who is behind gets obliterated since many clones/puppets have very low defensive stats). What do you want more than this?

    Ah and add to it that he is senjutsu, konoha, edo tensei and jinchuriki.

    Do you think it's a problem if he doesn't selfheal because you need the other chase to reduce cd?

    Fine, use him together with any leaching tai effects (there are quite a bunch) or use him together with edo roshi or with edo hashi or with sage naruto skill trialed, there are so many options with him...

great idea, would literally try those suggestions you got there!
i've been beating 20k~30k people ahead of me except kakuzu team before his BT, i wasn't lucky to break everything from him.. but the BT made my arena journey a breeze
maybe its just the team composition that makes him less-likely to be utilized, TS should start juggling between teams to another to find the better suit and counter
to each and any team, but yeah Y break is kinda lackluster, but i'm happy with the minor changes he got.

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On 2019-12-16 15:12:36Show this Author Only
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Is still hard to beat kakuzu. I cant do with kushina neither with minato sb. To be clear, i never tried minatos barrier but i think at that point i can win.

As 1x1 i think kakuzu is the best, then kushina/bee and only then minato. But for those who have good stats in every 4 positions or at least 2 positions, edo minato can mystery every round while edo hashi steal chakra and... if you ignite kakuzu or even imobile him after remove his chakra, kakuzu will not be the 1 man army he use to be. Having edo hashi sb or madara founder sb like china meta is the cherry on top

So for me, the secret of edo minato is not having only position 1 stack (which is very hard).

About the naruto discussion, wtf.. mine is at the bench since i bought kushina. Noway my kushina loose versus 2x power naruto. And she only looses versus kakuzu because he attacks twice or because i dont remove his buffs

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On 2019-12-17 18:20:38Show this Author Only
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  • dddds2 On 2019-12-11 22:54:27
  • great idea, would literally try those suggestions you got there!
    i've been beating 20k~30k people ahead of me except kakuzu team before his BT, i wasn't lucky to break everything from him.. but the BT made my arena journey a breeze
    maybe its just the team composition that makes him less-likely to be utilized, TS should start juggling between teams to another to find the better suit and counter
    to each and any team, but yeah Y break is kinda lackluster, but i'm happy with the minor changes he got.

Yw.

For arena you may try wind main him sage naruto skill trialed edo roshi trialed. You'll see how annoying that team is




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On 2019-12-19 07:10:44Show this Author Only
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Naruto can easily beat edo minato sb if you just put susanoo kakashi on your team.

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On 2019-12-19 08:16:07Show this Author Only
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  • Slipp On 2019-12-19 07:10:44
  • Naruto can easily beat edo minato sb if you just put susanoo kakashi on your team.

kinda hard to say since kakashi is kinda fragile ninja after all you will put him on p3 or p4. Sadly we have 4* bt for edo hashi so hes not that popular but minato( mystery bt +2 not Y) makes a really good team with edo hashi since edo hashi can reduce cooldown time by 1 round but this works good in gnw or decisive not in 1v1

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On 2019-12-19 11:48:46Show this Author Only
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  • Slipp On 2019-12-19 07:10:44
  • Naruto can easily beat edo minato sb if you just put susanoo kakashi on your team.

Such a waste to put Kakashi in a team just for Naruto to have a chance to beat Minato.

Instead of Kakashi, I would just use Kage Gaara bt, which he's cheaper and better to overwrite barrier, higher chance to survive with healing and shield.

If you can't take him down, you can still win by HP.

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Most op ninja in the game... TADA. WHITE ZETSU, he beats all. Lets have 9 ninjas to fight against.




This post was last edited by Broken Screen on 2019-12-19 11:49:55.
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On 2019-12-25 21:43:55Show this Author Only
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if you know how to use him he will your number one ninja of choice and you will build the entire team around him. but,....

He is top tier mostly because of his barrier and undodgable mystery and dodging standards.

And since not all F2P or even small whales can have this barrier then his potentials decrease considerably.

He is a very good position one but an excellent support in my opinion.

If you plan to use him pos 1 then you should also have edo nagato bt so you could utilize his chases.

Bottom line he is a very very expensive ninja but not for nothing.



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On 2019-12-26 22:13:08Show this Author Only
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