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- Daiske On 2019-09-19 01:20:00
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Hello~
I'm flattered that you think I am the one making such decisions. This update was planned and there were no plans to change or cancel it ba
sed on the survey results. Survey was not planned at all. But moderators were determined to show us your opinion once more and we allowed them to create unofficial survey, No one is blaming moderators, they were aware that this survey is not official. We appreciate our moderators and the work they do for our community. We also deeply care about your opinion and we take your feedback into consideration. While this survey did not change our opinion on this update, we acknowledge that this update is serious but also game changing. Therefore, due the feedback we've made decision to include ultimate runes in more events and also include more ways how players can obtain them so this update won't have such impact on the game. We ask you to give this update a chance.
As long as this thread stays civil and no forum rules will be broken, no one will delete or close this thread.
You absolutely do not care about our opinions otherwise you wouldn't continue to pursue mindlessly the overstacking move 1 policy none likes and wants.
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- Liez07 On 2019-09-19 09:48:52
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Dear Daisuke,
I will provide solutions instead to solve this. I believe this issue can be solved while everyone is happy.
Solutions:
Increase the claimable amount of advance refinement rune on space time. Make it 10 per day.
Increase the claimable amount of advance refine on group shop as well. Make it 5 per day.
Remove advance refine from SUN shop and replace it with epic refine. Transferred the Advancee refine rune from SUN SHOP to MOON SHOP with price of 600 moon scrolls each. Make it claimable 20 per day.
In a week a player can get up to 80k moon scrolls so that will be 133 advance refine per week.
Space time 10 per day will be 70 advance refine per week.
Group Shop 5 per day making it 35 advance refine per week.
In total a player can make 238 advance refine runes per month on this features alone. In two to three months someone can level 10 their refine runes in 1 slot no problem.
I know you are a business by doing this you will not lose the business of advance refine while making the player ba
se happy. Looking forward to your coherent response.
Tbh this amount would be fine if and only if they also removed the hidden counter that prevents lucky early rankings up on level 8-10 refinements. If the hidden counter continues to be there (so that you have 0 chance to make a level 7 to level 10 with less than 900 runes) then even 238 per month is an amount too low.
Or the hidden counter is removed and you actually have a fair chance per roll or the minimum amount you should be able to get without using events only currency or coupons/ingots per month has to be risen to 10 times the amount you suggested.
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- cretude On 2019-09-19 17:32:07
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The only downfall of this feature is that promotes that so called "position 1 me
ta" which is not even the features fault because the player ba se created it in their wish to compete between each other blindly. So these features aren't wrong in their implementations at all except %tactics.
No, it simply happened because the developers didn't cap the effect of injury substat to a decent number like +30 or +50% and because they made the stu pid move to let us get all the 5 substats by simply leveling up a single feature.
If you had to choose between getting initiative or injury and if to get both you had to spend 3 times as much as powering up your move 2 or 3 then none besides ultra whales would have been compelled to follow that route.
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- cretude On 2019-09-19 17:35:13
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No one ever told you from this company to be fair altogheter to stack move 1. Is a choice player ba
se made and the features has little to no doing in this decision making.
Take two people that spend the same 200000 ingots on account 1 and account 2.
Account 1 overstacks move 1,account 2 doesn't do it and fully spreads.
Acc1 is granted to move first due to how the features work so to be able to do anything acc 2 has do be able to fully endure the hit of acc 1 and be able to do anything when his move 1 turn comes.
Little problem: if you spread the same amount of resources over the 4 moves the enemy move 1 that also moves first gets a so big advantage thanks to injury substats that enduring the hit is not possible.
It's fun that i have to explain to you something even a newbie knows.
Or are you just suggesting to a sane of mind person to spend 3 times as much as an overstacking move 1 player to get the same outcome as the overstacker?
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- cretude On 2019-09-20 08:59:29
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And something more food for thought if you want to call it this way : What is the definition of a game in general? What is the purpose of a game? For me is to get relaxed after a hard day of work and chatting with those new friends I made in that game. Will it matter if the top 1-10 or top 11-20 all have 30k more INJURY than my pos 1-2-3-4 ? Ofc not xd And the answer is simple. It won't affect my goal towards the game in any way and to be completely honest they will always have that advantage no matter what because that's how game works. Those who pay more will get the advantages according to how much they will and trying to enter in their "competition" won't fulfill my initial goal and the purpose of the game itself.
Oasis or Tencent or whoever rules over this game sets the rules so we should play after their rules right or choose not to play the game altogheter but that's is dependant to your goal or goals in this game.
May be not so realistic to set a goal like "catching up with ...." or "be number one" and again any feature added may bring you down or up but what that means? It means ntgh because also a bunch of people will be brought back or up also so you get to see your potential with new players or old ones who kept the same "level - power" as yours. For example player 1 is now below 3k your INJURY stat let's assume now he gets those refines to a certain point and he gets on a similar level to you. That could mean you can check your potential with him while maintaining your own goal. Example 2 : You raise your INJURY by refining some pieces of equipment to a certain level close to a stronger oponent and again the same thing as above applies right? So is all about how you set your goals in this game no matter the rules. The Rankings in games will always change but your goals and principles of playing will never do .
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jectively speaking, what you are saying makes no sense. You don't go to a pool house to talk to your friends, you go there to play billiards.
You don't go to a casino to enjoy the atmosphere, you go there to play hazardous games that make you lead to win money.
You don't go at the qualifiers of the national championship of chess to hope to find a girl, you go there to play chess and win.
This game, if you don't compete, gives you close to nothing more than you could gain by going in a chatroom that talks about your interests.
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