Too bad madara is going to get the 4* treatment just like Sus Sasuke and 4th raikage.....so RIP all F2P who put in effort to get their SR....

I mean, that poster does have a point though. The players do whine a lot. Of course that can be said about literally any gaming community. But the whining is generally justified (for the most part) when players are being ignored and when the company shows they don't care. I mean legit, how many events each week are always ingot only? I think 1 week I counted 7 out of 10 events. Like, yes I know its Oasis' job to earn money, that is the goal to any company. But when Oasis decides to do something that affects the players as a whole such as making certain ninjas that were only needed to be 3* at CN to be 4* here, its a crappy thing for them to do. Its a slap to the face for everyone who got their SR's without paying (from Kage) and now from GNW (regarding Madara). Its this I don't appreciate the most.

There is no point to punish players for wanting to spend a resource (for roughly 10 months) to get a SR that has SB, just to realize that they have to pull that ninja 5 more times? I mean I got lucky like once or twice and got Madara Founder from Lucky Stars, which is at max 20 frags, and I'm like 3 rares away to be in minimum range for my Madara (for 2nd SR). I'm not mad that some players have Madara at 4* and only they can get his breaks, what I'm mad about is how it slaps most players in the face when Oasis pulls that crap. Yeah, I understand why you would need 4* for Event ONLY ninjas to skill trial, but if their primary way is through treasures, its another story.

This also makes me want Oasis to open more ninjas in the collection scroll. For example, if you unlocked say Madara Founder, you should be able to purchase his frags with Moon Coins even if it is only 2 a day, but you couldn't if you didn't unlock him.

(Totally went on a raging tangent sorry)

The community as a whole needs to become LOUD and NOT STOP until it happens. Oasis tells us "Oh we are our own version", yet that only means (from what I seen) "We only change things to make our wallet bigger."

That is literally all we can do, unfortunately, even if we do raise the issue, people will stop talking about it days later and forget about it a week later.

We are not even talking about Event Ninjas needing to be 3*, we are talking about ninjas that are Super Rares to TREASURES like GNW and Kage. If you're going to argue against a point, at least know what the point I made actually is. Heck, even in my giant rant of a post, I even state I understand why EVENT ONLY NINJAS is FINE AT 4* REQUIREMENT.

Sasuke SS and Raikage was also in a ton of events that were ingot only back during 2.0 and even in 3.0. (When people got sick of Hokage Tsunade of course). But again, that isn't the point. It still takes effort to pull these SR's from treasures, cause for GNW and Kage for instance you still only have a 50% chance at getting one or the other. And if you got Kurama Naruto (GNW), you have to spend even more resources JUST TO GET MADARA (which is what happened to me.) And it would take you twice as long to get it. Then just to find out he gets Skillbreaks you can't have access to even though you did put in effort to get him, again a slap to the face towards players who could only get them by pulling.

The events you could get SS Sasuke and 4th Raikage were always Time Limited (more recently for nearly a year or so), I don't know about you, but I average around 30 - 40 points for a WHOLE WEEK on average, so I'm lucky to get 1 or 2 of their fragments. So you're telling me with my crappy RNG, I have to spend 100 weeks worth of that event at a worst case scenario? Which only comes around once a month?

Bruh....

(Also I expect Mad King to have their post deleted for how they abusive they are)

So what about 3* Hashirama? Its a SR and gets really good for Konoha Support. Should that be 4*?

Keep in mind, you still have to put in resources to Skill Break with Vials and Protection, which gets harder the more you max a skill and gets more expensive. When hashi's skill trial came, I heard it took some people 7k coupons to do it. I spent 10k and I'm still not done. (Mystery won't go to +2 or to its Y Skill and I still have to do his chases) essentially costing me 225 coupons per attempt (maybe a bit more).

You really are underestimating the effort people go to when doing these Skill Trials. Especially when the protection are coupon only (if they're not in event on a wheel)

The reason why Hashirama was 3* was cause it followed how CN was doing it, then Oasis sat down at some point deciding how to gate breakthroughs on these kind of ninjas, the last 3* Breakthrough we seen was Danzo (and we got other Skill Trials and Breaks that required 4* before Danzo was thrown as a 3*.) Of course, no one at the time of Hashirama's breaks being released was actually pulling in Tendo Treasure, they were focusing either Jin/LoL/GNW/Kage. So they figured not a lot of people would have him. (Keep in mind, I would had 4* Hashi if he was gated behind 4* cause I got lucky.) (I got lucky pulling Hashi 2x technically 3 with 1 from treasure a month or 2 ago, but 2 from mission mobilization boxes).

But you act like obtaining these ninjas that normally costs 100s of seal scrolls isn't effort (or sometimes thousands). This is 1 thing I have an issue with how you see things.

I seen Madara's Breaks.

Mystery hits 3 more targets and he does 2 additional standards if you have an Uchiha, or reduce his mystery from 60 chakra to 40.

Standard, 30% more damage or does 30% less damage and can suppress super armor with a lower chance to cause knockdown.

Chase, can be used twice for 10% more damage or deals 30% less damage and deals "weakness (I assume tag)" until the end of the round.

Passive, Attack and Nin is boosted by 5% more and he gains 20% Life when a Konoha Unit uses a mystery or lets you gain 10 chakra and 10% life every time a konoha ninja does its chase.

2nd passive, Attack madara and your crit drops by 50%.

The only "OP" things I see on him is +2 passives. The rest is like "yay, this is a thing now".

But letting them be accessible instantly, still requires you to put in effort as you have to dump resources to gain those breaks and trials.

Probably better off with Anbu Itachi as he can get a 4th Standard and it can remove a debuff on Madara Founder.

But that aside, are you afraid of a lot of players having his breaks right out the gate? Or would you rather just see a ton of EFG and SoSP run around? (I know Kushina teams are a thing) and virtually never see other SR ninjas be used?

I definitely agree Kakuzu should be 4* but of course that deters me from even bothering with him considering I run Edo Hiruzen blitz (still) with Edo Itachi and Shisui with P1 Fire Main. CC Kakuzu, then CC EM, bait any potential dodges with Fire Main, then blast hiruzen. (The only issue is when they're faster on Kakuzu).