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On 2019-07-02 17:34:01Show All Posts
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Ehm, the mystery is basically an enhanced version of masked man's since also interrupts and hits 2 other targets AND ALSO TRIGGERS A COMBO CHASE since delivers knockdown too.

What did you expect that also landed the same damage as AGK's or Gaara's?

When a mystery directly removes buffs and shields never land high damage. Simple.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-07-02 17:36:51.
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On 2019-07-03 17:31:39Show All Posts
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  • ZWen On 2019-07-03 02:53:52
  • That comparison is just... wrong. Mind you it's a 40 chakra 1 battlefield cooldown mystery. So there is no way it's an enhanced version of masked man. The closest to what you said is Itachi [Edo Tensei]s mystery and no, that thing hit super hard too.

    Hashirama Y2 is a mystery mean for people want to use him as p1 or p2 and it's indeed has very low damage scaling compare to other skill that use 40 chakra. If anything you can say his Y2 is like another version of Kakashi [Susano]. Low mystery damage, just there for the buff.

    In conclusion, Tencent didn't intented for him to be a p1 because his Edo version do a better job, they want him to be p3, p4 and just made him a Y2 mystery for the lulz.

It's aoe, triggers a combo chase and remove buffs and shields directly.

To be a 100% atk/nin one (average damage one) should cost minimum 80 chakra and have a cd of 2 rounds.

Since costs only 40 and has only a cd of 1 round is obviously its damage is low.

Try to look at it from the point of view of the target with 30k shields on him.

What happens when you use itachi or masked man on it?

First you do the damage then the buffs and shields are removed then you apply the control effect.

Net effect?

0 damage on the target but the target is controlled.

What happens instead with hashi?

Hashi lands damage then removes shields and buffs then apply immobile and knockdown.

Net effect?

The target is controlled and also suffered the damage of the whole combo chase that followed triggered by knock-down.

The only mystery really close to it is skewering (except that even if you use neurotoxin the control effect gets applied before the eventual status immunity is removed) but is single target and it was given to water main because is extremely hard and most of the times counterproductive to actually let her use it freely as a move 1.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-07-03 17:34:38.
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On 2019-07-04 19:13:57Show All Posts
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  • Thibs On 2019-07-03 18:47:05
  • Hashi's Y is quite useless. Come on, you don't use Hashi for this.
    Nowaday, everyone have remove shield and buff on their setup. He do knockdown ? wow, incredible. Come on, you can't use him p1 since he do 0 damage.
    His instant barrier is WAY WAY better.


    And please, do not compare MM's mystery with Hashi's Y wtf

    As Jinga say, MM c*e it round one, for ZERO chakra, and MM have dodge so """"he can't be"""" interrupted easily.

    As he said, Edo itachi is the ninja who is the closest to MM, but still, itachi cost 20 and have no dodge.

I didn't day he is meant to be a move 1

Anyways here we don't understand each other.

He do removes buff and shields, apply immobile AND also triggers a combo chase.

How many mysteries do all of those things at the same time?

Gaara full sb or Edo roshi mysteries apply immobile and trigger a combo chase but do not remove buff and shields and they cost 60/80 chakra.

So since they don't remove buff and shields their damage is good.

Hashi remove buffs and shields too so that's why the damage is meh.

Btw, just to say, you can immobile a super armor ninja or the enemy itachi edo with hashi mystery, just to say and the prompt barrier have the opposite issue the y mystery has. You meet a roshi, a kisame samehada, a madara 5ks or even an itachi full sb and it becomes useless.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-07-04 19:21:32.
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