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A fun topic--just want to explain why the anime may not be the best source for reasons to buff Sasuke. If we use the anime as a guide, Sasuke can't be on par with Naruto and here's why:
1. In the final valley (earlier battle), he realized how much stronger Naruto was when he saw the Rasengan damage compared to his own.
2. He had a tough time beating Orochimaru and the snake man couldn't even sign and was sick in bed.
3. He got beat all the way up by Killer Bee. In three rounds he lost all three, even failing to capture Bee.
4. He basically lost to Deidara--Dei's suicide aside. Lightning style is stronger against earth yet he had trouble dealing with Dei. He also had to summon Manda to escape Deidara's last technique. IOW his summon saved him, not his own technique.
5. The last final valley battle after the last war, Naruto won.
6. Naruto won more major battles than Sasuke did. Sasuke lost more major battles than Naruto.
I list these even as a fan of Sasuke's in the game. In the game, a sb normal Sasuke is pretty good and I want the Rinne version too. But in no way should he or any of his other forms be in the same league as Naruto if we were to go by the anime.
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- kiba inuzuka On 2019-06-13 02:39:13
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we are talking about sasuke rinnegan not sasuke when he was fighting deidara or killer bee
and sasuke won against naruto in the first final valley battle, and in the second they draw, naruto didnt win, sasuke told him he has won bcuz naruto could change his mind,
not bcuz naruto is stronger
they both couldnt move in the end of the battle so how did naruto win ?
The point in listing those battles was to demo that Sasuke has not been better than Naruto since the chunnin exams and that includes the final fight when he tries his best to kill Naruto. He's always a bit further behind Naruto even with the Rinnegan.
The Ashura line has always been able to ultimately defeat the Indra line in battle despite Indra's line appearing more weapons and chakra savvy. The major fights between Naruto and Sasuke are no different.
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- kiba inuzuka On 2019-06-13 04:33:25
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hagoromo said naruto and sasuke are different from his sons, ashura line dont always win to indra line, naruto and sasuke were equal in power and the best proof their final battle was a draw
even kishimoto said they are equal, and he wanted to make them equal in power
Kishimoto himself said he never drawn Naruto at full power. The image here is pretty random too.
With Sasuke, Naruto had to show restraint so as to not kill him. Sasuke also admitted defeat in the second fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQc8K5JZobk
Think of it this way. Your friend attacks you in an attempt to kill you. You don't want to kill him, but you want to at least stop him and get him to rethink what he's doing. You manage to stop him even though you are both in the same physical condition in the end. Did you win, lose, or draw in the fight?
Overall, Naruto is stronger than Sasuke
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- run-away On 2019-06-13 05:39:11
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hold theeee *xtentaction up are you smoking right now
...sasuke was about to put narutos dreams and little aspirations to waste with indras arrow and then kurama gave him nature energy and it countered sasuke and took them both out and it was a ton load of nature energy too and the losing of their arm was also sasukes doing the Amaterasu burn off their arm a normal rasengan + lighten blade couldn't do that and I want you to keep in mind he only has 1 rinnegan …. go and ask madara what would happen if he was in position of 2 how much stronger he would be
1 I think you're talking about the hospital and if that's the case it doesn't matter if it made a bigger hole the lighten blade kills on contact with the heart or head
2 that snake man was a legendary ninja who was running for the hokage seat back in the day. that same man fought the 4 tails for his own amu*t
3 killer bee had the advantage ( he wasn't suppose to be killed) and he was up to par if not stronger that the raikage
4 he wanted information from deidara and you cant question a dead man can you?
5 Naruto didn't win anything it was a draw … it was just sugar coated to make him feel better
6 how did you come to that conclusion
p.s. rinnegan sasuke hasn't unlocked his full potential yet the guys walking around with one arm when the deva path in him can bring his arm back
This post genuinely had me laughing out loud. A very good laugh this afternoon.
First, I like how you said Sasuke was about to put an end to Naruto's aspirations. That's like saying Izuna was going to totally destroy Tobirama. None of it matters since their opponents countered them enough to subdue/kill them. Madara is also the wrong person to put into the argument because he lost his major battles against Hashirama. Madara admitted Hashirama could defeat him (Indra vs Ashura line).
The 1 thru 4 lines you have are basically excuses for why Sasuke failed in trying to get what he's after. For example, #4 says dead men can't talk. Yes, Deidara ended up dead and when Naruto wanted to save Sasuke and keep him alive, Sasuke stays alive. The point is Naruto is strong enough to secure his goals while Sasuke is not.
For number 6, if we listed out all the times Sasuke won his major battles versus Naruto, Naruto will trump Sasuke. And no, they aren't equal else the show would be called Naruto and Sasuke and not just Naruto.
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