No. This is not true. Buff removal effect do not remove his self boost to combo.

@thibbs: kurama's boost to combo works exactly like six paths and cannot be removed.

A good counter for him is edo roshi + kushina habanero.

In arena works 90% of the times even if you do not own initiative so would work outside it too as far as kushina is not obliterated by him.

I used kurama kisame samehada roshi lineup in arena and swb for over 8 months.

His buff to combo cannot be removed.

If happens you fail in triggering the cd reduction is simply due to bad luck or higher combo stats from the enemy.

The reason why is not removed is in the description, if you read it:

As you can see, it doesn't say: 'and naruto' s combo rate will increase by 80% for 1 round' but says 'until the end of the round', that means if we are in round 2 is up until the end of round 2, doesn't matter by how many rounds you reduce its duration (that's what buff removal effects do), since is not linked to an amount of rounds but to the very specific round you are in in that moment.

A different matter is the immunity to debuffs he grants to shinobi alliance ninjas.

That one gets removed, or better say its duration gets reduced to 0 rounds.

And where did i say that kisame removes buffs?

I meant that i used to run kurama in that specific lineup because was a very solid team that used to be op before six paths appeared, not as a ninja that removed buffs (since obviously he doesn't do it...), but at that time han roshi sailor sakura, masked man/shisui and sand dust based teams were very very common, so was normal to face people that used them.

I just explained in the very specific why is not removed, but since is a buff to combo you can fail to reduce cd regardless (exactly like six paths) because combo rate, like critical and control secondary stat, is capped to 95% (so regardless your combo rate stat there is always a 5% chance to fail, even if your ninja has 50k combo rate and the enemy has 1k).

The fact you get a fail after the enemy used on naruto a buff removal effect doesn't mean necessarily that his self boost was removed.

That's what very likely you experienced.

This, overall, happens in arena where the basic chance to combo is fixed and is quite low, so an increase of 80% doesn't grant at all a sure success.

I'll try to explain more in the specific how combo rate secondary stat works.

All your ninjas standard attacks have a basic chance to trigger an effect.

This chance, unless stated otherwise (so unless is written low chance or high chance or fixed chance), is 30%.

Combo rate secondary stat increases or decreases this chance and how does it do it?

By taking in account the difference between your ninja combo rate chance and the enemy ninja combo rate chance, divided by 100.

For example if you own 15000 combo rate and you hit a ninja with 11000 combo rate then that 30% basic value gets increased by (15000-11000)/100 = 40% so instead of having 30% you have 70%.

And those values are capped up to 95% and capped down to 5%.

What do naruto kurama passive do?

It increases naruto combo stat by 80%, so that 15k becomes 27k.

If you face the same enemy with 11k your chance gets increased by 160% so would be 190% but since is over the cap it will be still 95%.

What happens, on the other hand, if you face, lets say, an agk with 16k combo rate at 100 chakra?

Your combo stat becomes 27k but her combo rate becomes 32k so your basic 30% gets reduced by 50% and since - 20 is a value under the cap it gets capped to 5%.

Try to give to roshi or to kushina habanero bee sst mystery then attack them with naruto six paths or chiriku chases after he put in queue the mystery and you'll see if you interrupt it or not.

Yep, works exactly this way.

Kakashi clone have 0 combo rate. If your ninja owns more than 9500 combo rate and you don't trigger the special effect of the standard attack even without relying on the buff is granted you were unlucky and the dice rolled under 5.

Because in the last two weeks there were 3 threads about the same question.

Is not hard to find the answer there.

EDIT:

https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-40773-1.html

https://forum-narutoen.oasgames.com/page/show-post-40766-1.html

Here is the link to the last two.

He was replying to me quoting me blatantly thinking that the reason why i didn't experience what thibs said was the fact i thought kisame worked as madara.

don't you see he is quoting me?