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Will Edo Madara dethrone Six Path Naruto?!

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On 2019-05-23 17:55:23Show this Author Only
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I had been wondering about this too.

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On 2019-05-23 20:01:32Show this Author Only
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Is it correctly call him like Edo Madara? In Konoha Proxy him called Madara [Rinne Tensei] and his eyes are look like alive.

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On 2019-05-23 20:06:21Show this Author Only
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  • FourthGear On 2019-05-23 20:01:32
  • Is it correctly call him like Edo Madara? In Konoha Proxy him called Madara [Rinne Tensei] and his eyes are look like alive.

Yes, he is Rinne Tensei. It's been fixed.

Also either if he is gonna be good or not, will determine his growth rates. Not just his kit. Waste of time to discuss it until it's released.

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On 2019-05-23 21:07:12Show this Author Only
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  • MonkeyLord83 On 2019-05-23 04:45:26
  • Dethrone doesn't mean the same as counter, though, most people are comparing the 2 to see if one is better than the other. The whole point around immunity was only brought up because 6PN also has it, so your input is a bit, well, not at all on point XD


    As for the whole immune to pure ninjutsu, you're looking at one aspect instead of the entire ninja, yes, Sasuke and Tendo can't do much vs 6PN, but they were release ages before, 6PN, while Madara is an upcoming char. So it is your argument that is invalid.

I never said any argument.

I just said sasuke ss is immune to ninjutsu and this do not mean he is a counter to 6p. I said : Wait and see.


We know nothing about this Madara.

And btw, he will not be released soon, 6p will be probably outdated and "tr*sh" when madara will be released.




This post was last edited by Thibs on 2019-05-23 21:07:30.
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On 2019-05-23 21:10:22Show this Author Only
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  • Broken Screen On 2019-05-23 06:49:09
  • He can reset with Fire main passive, Secret Jutsu users, which that doesn't require any extra standard as long as he kills a unit. Or Wind dance.

    This edo Madara is better than Founder anyway, if edo has his barrier up , Founder's chakra passive won't work, therefore you can't bombbard your team from his chakra passive. He dosen't need to play with full buff teams, when he's immune to debuffs and ninjutsu, which Founder is weak against both.

Yeah secret jutsu make him reset... ON KILL only.

I don't know how works the barrier first round, did he launch it during "buff time" ?or before the battle begin but after "buff time" ? so no fire secret jutsu in this case.


And don't compare madara foundation and this madara please. Completly differents roles and i don't think this madara > madara foundation SB




This post was last edited by Thibs on 2019-05-23 21:10:57.
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On 2019-05-24 07:53:19Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-05-23 17:28:13
  • Are you sure about this?

    By reading it seems more that his barrier gets released as soon as round 1 starts, but other barriers, shields and buffs are applied before the beginning of the battle.

It should work if Madara is a Pos4 ninja which makes him very interesting since he would be able to allow your side to keep buffs but also prevents you from having him pos1 sweeper

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On 2019-05-24 09:26:40Show this Author Only
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  • HanselAndGretel On 2019-05-23 02:34:06
  • He did have immune to all debuff and he is immune to ninjutsu which counter 6p naruto's standard attack and chase(pure ninjutsu dmg).

    This mean that naruto cant leech hp with standard attack and chase.

    Not to mention that naruto mastery deal both tai and nin dmg, since madara able to negate nin jutsu dmg.

    He will take less dmg from 6p naruto mastery (Quote me if im wrong)


    One thing I liked about his kit is certain hit(unavoidable) standard atk and high chance knockdown then proceed to chase.

You're actually incorrect. Ninjas who use Nin/Tai attacks don't have their damage reduced because a ninja is immune to Tai or Nin. The damage is applied normally and the immunity only applies to Tai or Nin only attacks.

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On 2019-05-24 09:31:26Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-05-23 17:28:13
  • Are you sure about this?

    By reading it seems more that his barrier gets released as soon as round 1 starts, but other barriers, shields and buffs are applied before the beginning of the battle.

So I just got into a fight and when you start it, after clicking fight (was doing wanteds), Round 1 appeared in the middle of the screen, then at the top of the screen, then buffs were applied under Round 1. Because of this, I'm sure you can put down Madara first for the barrier and to remove buffs then buff him with your own. Of course we need more testing in game before anything.

You could also put him down 2nd after Asuma WB if you want the extra 40 chakra (if SB). Also Madara couldn't remove the Asuma WB buff as its one of the few buffs you can't remove.




This post was last edited by RenjiAsuka on 2019-05-24 09:40:18.
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On 2019-05-24 12:36:57Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2019-05-24 09:26:40
  • You're actually incorrect. Ninjas who use Nin/Tai attacks don't have their damage reduced because a ninja is immune to Tai or Nin. The damage is applied normally and the immunity only applies to Tai or Nin only attacks.

Yep! thanks for correcting me.

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On 2019-05-24 20:09:15Show this Author Only
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It's look like you can't buff him.


On the video we can see fire's clone on the left, which mean "buff time" is done. And madara launch his barrier after other teams's buff. So he launch his barrier at the begining of the first round and not during the "buff time".
So you can't play him full buff and debuff the ennemy team in same time. And thanks god because it would be fcking overpowered.

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On 2019-05-25 03:02:55Show this Author Only
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  • Thibs On 2019-05-24 20:09:15
  • It's look like you can't buff him.


    On the video we can see fire's clone on the left, which mean "buff time" is done. And madara launch his barrier after other teams's buff. So he launch his barrier at the begining of the first round and not during the "buff time".
    So you can't play him full buff and debuff the ennemy team in same time. And thanks god because it would be fcking overpowered.

Again, that depends on how you place him in your team. It sounds like he was the last ninja placed.

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On 2019-05-25 03:40:55Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2019-05-25 03:02:55
  • Again, that depends on how you place him in your team. It sounds like he was the last ninja placed.

Well no.
As I said, the madara's team have fire clone, so this mean madara's team's buff are already cast'd.

Then ennemy teams do their buff and then -> return to the madara (with fire clone already up) who cast barrier before the fight start.
The barrier is not launched as other auto barriers.

Maybe i'm blind or what but i suppose it act like that




This post was last edited by Thibs on 2019-05-25 03:42:19.
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On 2019-05-25 10:45:05Show this Author Only
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  • Thibs On 2019-05-25 03:40:55
  • Well no.
    As I said, the madara's team have fire clone, so this mean madara's team's buff are already cast'd.

    Then ennemy teams do their buff and then -> return to the madara (with fire clone already up) who cast barrier before the fight start.
    The barrier is not launched as other auto barriers.

    Maybe i'm blind or what but i suppose it act like that

That would make even less sense, because that would mean your barrier will always overlay you opponent's no matter if they have higher average initiative, and that's even more broken. But well i haven't seen the videos, so i can't completely judge it.




This post was last edited by Nomiko on 2019-05-25 10:45:51.
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On 2019-05-25 16:56:02Show this Author Only
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What's the most broken thing :

- play without buff for both sides without any possibilities to gain chakra for 2 rounds

- play full buff when the other side loose all his buff AND shields without any counter play

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On 2019-05-26 03:20:06Show this Author Only
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  • Thibs On 2019-05-25 16:56:02
  • What's the most broken thing :

    - play without buff for both sides without any possibilities to gain chakra for 2 rounds

    - play full buff when the other side loose all his buff AND shields without any counter play

You'd still gain the normal chakra I'd imagine, just not through your ninjas like Konoha Founder.

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On 2019-05-26 05:32:42Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2019-05-26 03:20:06
  • You'd still gain the normal chakra I'd imagine, just not through your ninjas like Konoha Founder.

I think you can still have chakra from, by example, asuma at start.
And after i suppose it work like edo fu or edo minato barriers, so normal chakra / round (20-40-60-...) and you can't generate chakra + you can't steal chakra (ennemy lose his chakra but you don't gain any)


If this madara work like that (Barrier after "buff time" but before fight start), it could be a very good alternativ to m5k, with a possibility to use mysteries round one.
And btw, this new madara steal 100 chakra on chase, not 40. Exactly same animation and same chakra drain as Edo hashirama chase.

Wonderfull translation ;)




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