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On 2019-02-27 07:56:15Show this Author Only
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  • Garv On 2019-02-26 02:45:17
  • the matching system is the same as the normal matsuri. the problem of matsuri is that high power players since can't find anybody to be matched with usually hit the 60 seconds mark and so can be matched with everybody.


    that said, about your suggestion, for what i saw by going in it: in that feature is extremely easier to be compelled to use revival potions to get the 5 wins than is in the normal matsuri (if you own decent power), so i'm not sure if would be a good idea.

    if costed just 10-20 revival potions to resurrect 1 ninja i would say i would agree with you (is more balanced), but since it costs 40 i say i don't agree with your suggestion (i would be of a different idea if by hitting 4 and 5 wins you would get decent rewards exactly as happens in normal matsuri).


Matching system doesn't seem quite same as normal matsuri. It's based on the Zenith matching, I think. (That's also what is stated at the top of the screen unless that's wrong. It's Oasis, so that's definitely a possiblity xD.) Each of my fights got progressively harder, which was obvious based on ninja and actual player skill. Normal matsuri I'll get sub 50-70k guys after 3+ wins in a row all the time. (aka all beginner ninjas) This time it went more premium for almost all fights. So even if the system is the same, it definitely seems better overall. Well see next time if that case holds true.

Either way, I'm tired of curb stomping beginners or just burning revives to help randoms. I rather have actual fights. And I know how much F2P complain about things like Matsuri and Bonds. So I figure a more balanced mode would actual help the game rather than just frustrating beginners into quitting right away.




This post was last edited by takosabi on 2019-02-27 07:58:46.
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On 2019-02-27 18:59:20Show this Author Only
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Well. you are at the top level of Matsuri with your 300k+ bp and is having no fun of it. But have you considered the oppinion of middle power level people? As someone with 200k bp with level 105, the arena matsuri is a dissaster. I get beaten by op people as in normal matsuri, but I get kicked by p2w below level 95 with about 150k bp that I would win in normal matsuri. I fought someone in arena matsuri at level 90 with Sixpath Naruto, Roshi, earth main and Killer Bee team that I've also encountered in normal matsuri. I won in normal matsuri with lightning main and madara team but got beaten really fast in the arena matsuri. This arena matsuri is made for p2w people too, the really op people can have a bit challenge and the low level p2w have their only disadvantage of low hp removed.




This post was last edited by auth on 2019-02-27 19:00:20.
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On 2019-02-27 19:47:29Show this Author Only
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The point of this feature is for players who lack time to play, an easier option to cap sun and moon scrolls, now do i agree making it a replacement for standard matsuri? absolutely not, and here's my PoV(i'll try to be unbiased as possible), replacing it woulda accomplish nothing, you would have to come up with another feature to replace the sunday fights between 3pm and 6pm the UK time ofc(idk about other timezones), and what would you bring as a filler? that's the problem that comes in, china has already set in schedule their schedule when it comes to events during weeks and weekends, and oasis cant do much but to ask suggestions to tencent, so in the long run, the answer would be no, cuz of the so said schedule already set in motion, thou i say, woulda been more friendly for the general community? yes, since im not part of the small whales(which im pretty sure, they stand against this), look at the bigger picture and every angle and options open, this event is a filler for those who lack time to cap currency at the end of the day, love it or hate it, for me personally i dont gain much from it, since i can cap currency pretty easily throughout the week.

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On 2019-02-27 19:50:51Show this Author Only
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  • auth On 2019-02-27 18:59:20
  • Well. you are at the top level of Matsuri with your 300k+ bp and is having no fun of it. But have you considered the oppinion of middle power level people? As someone with 200k bp with level 105, the arena matsuri is a dissaster. I get beaten by op people as in normal matsuri, but I get kicked by p2w below level 95 with about 150k bp that I would win in normal matsuri. I fought someone in arena matsuri at level 90 with Sixpath Naruto, Roshi, earth main and Killer Bee team that I've also encountered in normal matsuri. I won in normal matsuri with lightning main and madara team but got beaten really fast in the arena matsuri. This arena matsuri is made for p2w people too, the really op people can have a bit challenge and the low level p2w have their only disadvantage of low hp removed.

U sound like being at 200k bracket in matsuri is bad, then im having nightmares now think that my bracket is hell mode then.




This post was last edited by UchihaShay on 2019-02-27 19:51:04.
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On 2019-02-27 23:21:44Show this Author Only
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Yes, we need the regular one to be replaced with the arena one. It's so much better!

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On 2019-02-28 03:16:15Show this Author Only
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bigbigbig +1

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On 2019-02-28 07:11:51Show this Author Only
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no, just stop with these annoying threads of "I don't like this, please take it off, blablabla... *sobs*" along with "nerf this and that ninja, and my neighbors dog too..." uffff...

accept the game as it is :P


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On 2019-02-28 08:46:22Show this Author Only
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  • Tetsu0 On 2019-02-28 07:11:51
  • no, just stop with these annoying threads of "I don't like this, please take it off, blablabla... *sobs*" along with "nerf this and that ninja, and my neighbors dog too..." uffff...

    accept the game as it is :P


I don't mind either. I don't remember the last time I didn't get 5 wins in any matsuri. It literally makes no difference to me. But I do know that lots of non-whale players complain every week about getting screwed over in matsuri due to constantly matching high powers they can never beat. At least with a balance, they have a chance. The rewards are better in the normal one which I felt would be nicer for lower level/power players to be able to obtain though good play by switching the rules (not the rewards). Rather than begging or getting destroyed constantly.

I'm not asking about nerfing characters. I'm simply proposing and idea and trying to generate a discussion about it. If you don't like it, you are welcome to say why. If you are just "annoyed" then you should probably just keep scrolling.




This post was last edited by takosabi on 2019-02-28 08:48:34.
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On 2019-02-28 08:50:25Show this Author Only
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  • auth On 2019-02-27 18:59:20
  • Well. you are at the top level of Matsuri with your 300k+ bp and is having no fun of it. But have you considered the oppinion of middle power level people? As someone with 200k bp with level 105, the arena matsuri is a dissaster. I get beaten by op people as in normal matsuri, but I get kicked by p2w below level 95 with about 150k bp that I would win in normal matsuri. I fought someone in arena matsuri at level 90 with Sixpath Naruto, Roshi, earth main and Killer Bee team that I've also encountered in normal matsuri. I won in normal matsuri with lightning main and madara team but got beaten really fast in the arena matsuri. This arena matsuri is made for p2w people too, the really op people can have a bit challenge and the low level p2w have their only disadvantage of low hp removed.

A blitz team in arena can kill 6p in 1 round. There is literally no excuses in arena that X ninja are unbeatable since they is no way to overstack. Everyone is a little squishy.

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On 2019-02-28 16:58:19Show this Author Only
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  • takosabi On 2019-02-27 07:56:15
  • Matching system doesn't seem quite same as normal matsuri. It's based on the Zenith matching, I think. (That's also what is stated at the top of the screen unless that's wrong. It's Oasis, so that's definitely a possiblity xD.) Each of my fights got progressively harder, which was obvious based on ninja and actual player skill. Normal matsuri I'll get sub 50-70k guys after 3+ wins in a row all the time. (aka all beginner ninjas) This time it went more premium for almost all fights. So even if the system is the same, it definitely seems better overall. Well see next time if that case holds true.

    Either way, I'm tired of curb stomping beginners or just burning revives to help randoms. I rather have actual fights. And I know how much F2P complain about things like Matsuri and Bonds. So I figure a more balanced mode would actual help the game rather than just frustrating beginners into quitting right away.

What garv says is that in normal matsuri the amount of people that hit the 60 seconds mark is so high that basically the matching system is random (it's not necessary that you hit the 60 seconds it's enough that one between you and your enemy hit it for you to have unbalanced fights).

And i would add also that in normal matsuri the matching system first takes in account level then power.


P. S. You paid so much that you made yourself out of the high side of the chart competition too and you complain now that there's no good match for you? Was your choice and you should have known it when you paid this much (or did you expect to find 1000 people in your bracket able to keep up?)

But is easy for you too to have good matches also in normal matsuri. Just remove 10k total initiative between your move 1 and 2 (i would say 7k from move 1 and 3k from move 2) and 50k total power before going in and you'll have the decent competition you want.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2019-02-28 17:06:20.
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On 2019-02-28 17:05:14Show this Author Only
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Also, generally what's everyone's goal in matsuri anyway, i mean, the standard one from monday and friday is a must if u wanna cap sun scrolls, u get 500 sun scrolls guaranteed most times, cuz eventually you gonna win at least 1 match that's usually the case for most people, i speak personally when my goal is 3 wins and im good, if i dont get them no biggie, i can cap sun scrolls on sunday with sage and jin simple, idk why people get so mad over this standard matsuri, and being replaced by arena matsuri, it's just doesnt make sense, to do it.




This post was last edited by UchihaShay on 2019-02-28 17:05:41.
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On 2019-03-01 08:42:48Show this Author Only
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-02-28 16:58:19
  • What garv says is that in normal matsuri the amount of people that hit the 60 seconds mark is so high that basically the matching system is random (it's not necessary that you hit the 60 seconds it's enough that one between you and your enemy hit it for you to have unbalanced fights).

    And i would add also that in normal matsuri the matching system first takes in account level then power.


    P. S. You paid so much that you made yourself out of the high side of the chart competition too and you complain now that there's no good match for you? Was your choice and you should have known it when you paid this much (or did you expect to find 1000 people in your bracket able to keep up?)

    But is easy for you too to have good matches also in normal matsuri. Just remove 10k total initiative between your move 1 and 2 (i would say 7k from move 1 and 3k from move 2) and 50k total power before going in and you'll have the decent competition you want.

Nah there are plenty of strong guys that I face in Sage, ST, and other events. I'm just trying to look out for the lower end players that constantly complain they can't do anything and end up quitting. It's cool though. No skin of my back. I don't mind taking 10 mins to do matsuri on mon-friday.

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