I would as well but if the pill fragments are given for free then why not? Like I said, it's not like you will have inventory issues because of it.

100pcssss my goodness

Sure its nice they are free. Nobody's complaining about that. We are just pointing out a flaw in design, that 100 pieces to make a complate pill is simply too much. 7 frags are nice, but how are we supposed to get the other 93, when recharging 5k gives you like bonus 2-4 frags? I believe this is what Renji meant.

Exvius is just trying to say that wait until another week or two of events comes by with (hopefully) other options for getting frags. If it turns out after 3 weeks of events players still can't reasonably get more than say 20 frags (without recharging), THEN we can be upset with how its been rolled out.

Not gonna die having that Pills Fragments in my Inventory so why bother about it .. Peoples .. and again, what Exvius said above ..

It's just the first release of that item and all of you already assuming things that you dont sure .. Calm your teeets everyone .. Wait for other cycles and rant if you don't see any progress about that matter ..

You can get 7 straight by doing myoboku trial wheel 6/8 times per day (since the 6th roll you may get it, at the 8th is sure).

Overall when you know that you need at least 10/15 pills per piece of gear to see a significative in game effect AFTER you made your piece pf gear a level 9 or 10...

If we are not able to get at least 5000 fragments of these pills for free within 1 year they are wholly useless.

You have to tell to the management that if a whale may think is worth to spend 2000+ ingots for 1 pill, for the common player 1 whole pill is worth less than 250 coupons.

(20 of them on a level 10 refinement, something f2p and low cashers have close to no way to get if not, at most, on 1/2 of the 20 pieces pf gear, grant +132 initative, with 5k coupons whoever is not a whale have 100 other ways to get the same 132 initiative somewhere else. On a level 8 refinement are 62 initiative, as much as 1 single tile of myoboku cultivation/balancement/trial grants in page 12+).

That's why none rolls 8 times in myoboku wheel beside ultrawhales and why none but whales finds that item appealing (and I'm talking about the whole pill, not of a fragment).

But as any other mod you play the game of the whales, you have 5+ level 10 refinements and almost surely a 90k+ move 1 so you have no idea about what I'm taking.

50 pills for free in a year when an average player can get 1-2 (or even 5 for your sake) for 3 months, wow! Sounds pretty legit to me. Also, I don't know about you but I consider those pills as additives (and endgame feature) -- not something to focus/spend on. Ever spent 5,000 coupon/ingots "only" for the pill?without getting other side items? No, right? So quit your yamming. Pills are not impossible to get even for non-spenders. Its just that it takes a lot longer for them. Also, why debate what to get first (pills vs other items) when you can get both of them at the same time? (Refine Rebate, Ninjas via Konoha Tree and even sometimes in Fuku deals).

As for your "game of the whales" comment, no. I play the game mostly just to collect ninjas. I don't even have level 9 charms.

But I do have 193 ninjas. Once again, another baseless comment. Seriously though you need to stop talking like you know 99.99% about the game AND the community. Sharing your opinion is great but acting like it's the fact is never isn't.

It won't hurt to wait a couple of weeks to see how this goes.

To add, we, mods, assistants, and even gls, would be happy to forward the feedback if it turns out that the fragments are hard to get even after a few weeks. But for now, at least give it a chance.

I don't even bother trying to get 500 refines (for the rebate) just for that * pill. 1 Refine rebate comes once a month and only lasts a week, considering I'm close to no longer needing medium refines and need adv refines, there is no way in hell am I going to wait to get 500 adv refines. Same goes with every other rebate in the excessive amount. Only reason I reached 200 on the refine rebate is because I needed Med Refines which you c*e with moon coins. I rather participate some in every rebate, than save up for max rebate which could take 7 months for me if not a bit more.

Just reduce the amount of frags needed end of story. I don't mind seal scroll frags needing 10 frags for 1 seal, and you need 10 seals which is 1250 coupons (from shop). So for the pills to be remotely effective, you're telling me I need to essentially drop that much coupons for 100 fragments for 1 pill?

I'd be fine with just 20 frags needed for 1 pill, cause then its at least somewhat useful.

5000 frags are 50 pills, true.

And do you think getting +10% boost to your move 1 refinement purifications over 1 whole year when everybody else get it too is something big?

How many cave keys you used to get for free 1 year ago in 1 year and how many do you get now?

What have a bigger impact in game between 14000 cave keys and 50 pills in one year?

The pills are an old feature, exactly like battle armor level 7+, that they begin to be way easier to get now is something the playerbase may think is normal it happens, exactly like happened for cave keys and charms.

But here you seem you didn't get the point.

A player like me (and evidently who replied before me thinks something similar too...) looks at those pills, at the fact we get 7/100 for free during this week (not 70/100) and do not think about the fact we got 7/100 frags for free, but thinks about: 'what item those 7 frags took the place of in the events that gave them to us? And that item would have been worth more than the 20 coupons i evalue them?'

Then thinks: 'ok, even if maybe in persepctive may be worth it, what happens once they delivered us 95-99 for free during next weeks? Will they do like they did with tendo in UT where for over 1 year you had to pay as much as the whole ninja to get those missing 4 frags unless you had the luck of the devil in weekend chases?'

So the average old player like me that have 0 faith in oasis and that do not trust anything they do thinks:' they implemented it to not give out other surely useful rewards in their place and to make fun of us for the n-esim time, letting us hope in something good that won't ever be implemented as the common player would love it was until it becames useless.

P.S. The fact you chose to spend your abnormal amount of free coupons on ninjas was fully a choice of yours, but if you did like icex or tobei you would have what i said.

That said you still have a comparable move 1 to me (slightly lower) even after you spent that amount on ninjas (and i pay, not high amounts but i do).

And beware I'm not against you or other mods, i just think what you did is the closest thing to fairness you could do and that actually that one should be your reward as mods if they do not pay you in real money: ninja fragments. But delivered directly in the mail. Because if you get 20k coupons to buy lets say naruto six paths and you spend them during lucky board when there's a fukurokumaru deal then you actually get the ninja AND ALSO 20/30k free things as a consequence of the events. I do not think is fair that second part. You should get naruto, but not the 30k collateral power up rewards, imho.

The fact that you are still comparing the stats you gain from pills with cave keys means you think of the pills as a wholly different feature -- not an additive/bonus. If you really do think of that that way then I honestly don't know what more to say. Also, just to add, you can actually directly spend for cave keys/refines/gifts/oils/trainings so it should be fair that you would be getting a decent stat in return whereas in pills, you only get them as rebates after spending a humongous amount of resources. (The pills from Myoboku Trial - Wheel of Offerings is RNG though but if you count that one then yeah, it costs 100-$$$$$). As for the pills being an old feature and should be easier to get now, don't you think this is why the pill frags are in place now?

And yes, I do get your (plus others) point which is why you should read goalie720's post as what he said is spot on to what I was trying to say. Like I said, this is just the first week that this item is released and you lot are assuming that those frags will be useless as it will be hard to get 100 of them. Just give it a couple of weeks and if it turns out that it will indeed be hard to get them then I'm pretty sure a lot of the paid players(staff) will be happy to send the feedback, including me.

Yes, but if the amount of them redeemable is low then they are actually not added at all.

That said, lets consider the best case: 5 level 10 refinements where they are actually additive. Those 50 pills would grant exactly 330 initiative (the 330 other secondary stats are close to be irrelevant on people with 10k+ of them).

It's a lower quantity of initiative than what you get by bringing a single initiative rune from level 10 to 12 WITHOUT considering any multiplier coming from charms. (1050 keys used during the monthly rebate give about 1000/1200 exp per kind of rune. Bringing a 10 to 12 costs 5300 exp more or less, so in 1 year with 14000 keys you can do it twice).

So for me and as i said for everybody that is not a whale those pills are close to be useless if not added in that very minimum amount and that's why i don't evalue them more than 200/250 coupons each one (the full pill) and i will never evalue them more than that much because every 3 months you bring in a feature that gives me the same 300 initiative with less than 7k coupons spent (last ones? Nature chakra and myoboku trial, just for example).

But you are right, it's just the first week and if I'm mistaking I'll be happy i was mistaking.

P. S. The chance to get the pill before the 6th roll in myoboku wheel is not low, is 0. It's about 5% at the 6th roll and 20% at the 7th. But oasis may simply add the chances to the rules of the event, add a log of the winners in the server and show me I'm mistaking (that's what means to be transparent).

just quit the game if u hate it so much. easy, done,

I don't hate anybody, I may be blunt sometimes but I'm simply stating matter of facts. Those facts would change if i quit? No. Did your comment bring in anything useful to the discussion? No.

So if you replied this way means or you didn't play long enough (yes, when i was a new player i thought about who complained to oasis exactly what you think about me, then after 1 year i joined them) or you have interests in denying the blatant evidence.

Not sure why people are crying about this.

This is an end-game feature and you'll still get shït on if you have it or not with your f2p account.

To those that don't stack 500 refines to get a free pill well sorry to say but you're dumb, the top f2p players in my servers are even doing it.

If you look at the places the pill has been in events in the past months it has always been something very expensive to get, of course Oasis isn't gonna give a pill for free every week now.

Just be patient and gather them, they might come a bit everywhere in the future and getting one every few weeks might be a thing. (which is enough in my opinion)

If they did not want that pills become relatively easy to get then there is literally no point in adding the new item and make it available to everybody.

And if they add it regardless, overall in the place of something else, what do you think about it if not that is a joke?

As i said it was expensive because its original goal, exactly like rank 9 ba, was to be a whale only item when there were just 3 ways to get initiative: ba, refinements and cave keys. Now there are about 20 and at least 6 or 7 of them are more efficient than pills even once you reach the whale only side of them (like myoboku pages 17+ or treasure tools level 15+ or summon cultivation 8th land). Their real in game effect right now is close to 0 even for normal whales unless you are at loco's level of overstacking.

They can do what they want with the game, They can even totally not include this new feature so f2p would almost never get a free pill. Instead of waiting for future events or cycles to see how it goes, how does it help that ur crying over it?

I mean it has only been 1 cycle, and ur crying that its not "easy" to get those pills. Logic.