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On 2019-01-19 14:34:52Show All Posts
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Or you can just save it and who knows you can get more of it in the future instead of whining about it being 1/100 or delete/selling it. God players these days. It's not like your inventory gets full because of it.




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On 2019-01-19 16:38:57Show All Posts
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  • Tiami On 2019-01-19 16:12:20
  • Thing is that for now it looks like that "in the future" might be as well in few years- looking at that 1/100. I think that's what annoys people.

    Make it drop in events instead of bond scrolls, dango, low lvl refines or cloths for example, then we're talking about making actual chance of collecting even few full pills of those.

To be fair this is just the first week that this item is released and yet people are claiming that it is impossible to complete one.

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On 2019-01-19 16:46:51Show All Posts
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As for availability, I'm pretty sure that there will be a good amount of feedback for that. I will be adding this to my report as well as it would indeed be impossible to complete one pill if the fragments rarely appears in events.

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On 2019-01-19 19:31:38Show All Posts
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2019-01-19 19:25:52
  • Or you know, 100 frags is excessive and I rather get other items that I c*e sooner and I'll forever has 7 frags sitting on my inventory.

Well Breakthrough Pills are not Charm Packs so..

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On 2019-01-20 12:05:18Show All Posts
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2019-01-20 07:32:19
  • You don't say? Never claimed they were. When an individual breakthrough pill gives like 4 power, (Yes I know they stack) I rather go for adv refines, myoboku stuff, Chakra Nature, Adv Threads, Purification Runes and Protection runes. Not an item I can't use for months.

I would as well but if the pill fragments are given for free then why not? Like I said, it's not like you will have inventory issues because of it.


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On 2019-01-22 19:41:04Show All Posts
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-01-22 18:44:07
  • If we are not able to get at least 5000 fragments of these pills for free within 1 year they are wholly useless.

    You have to tell to the management that if a whale may think is worth to spend 2000+ ingots for 1 pill, for the common player 1 whole pill is worth less than 250 coupons.

    (20 of them on a level 10 refinement, something f2p and low cashers have close to no way to get if not, at most, on 1/2 of the 20 pieces pf gear, grant +132 initative, with 5k coupons whoever is not a whale have 100 other ways to get the same 132 initiative somewhere else. On a level 8 refinement are 62 initiative, as much as 1 single tile of myoboku cultivation/balancement/trial grants in page 12+).

    That's why none rolls 8 times in myoboku wheel beside ultrawhales and why none but whales finds that item appealing (and I'm talking about the whole pill, not of a fragment).

    But as any other mod you play the game of the whales, you have 5+ level 10 refinements and almost surely a 90k+ move 1 so you have no idea about what I'm taking.

50 pills for free in a year when an average player can get 1-2 (or even 5 for your sake) for 3 months, wow! Sounds pretty legit to me. Also, I don't know about you but I consider those pills as additives (and endgame feature) -- not something to focus/spend on. Ever spent 5,000 coupon/ingots "only" for the pill?without getting other side items? No, right? So quit your yamming. Pills are not impossible to get even for non-spenders. Its just that it takes a lot longer for them. Also, why debate what to get first (pills vs other items) when you can get both of them at the same time? (Refine Rebate, Ninjas via Konoha Tree and even sometimes in Fuku deals).

As for your "game of the whales" comment, no. I play the game mostly just to collect ninjas. I don't even have level 9 charms.

But I do have 193 ninjas. Once again, another baseless comment. Seriously though you need to stop talking like you know 99.99% about the game AND the community. Sharing your opinion is great but acting like it's the fact is never isn't.


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It won't hurt to wait a couple of weeks to see how this goes.




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On 2019-01-22 20:09:40Show All Posts
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To add, we, mods, assistants, and even gls, would be happy to forward the feedback if it turns out that the fragments are hard to get even after a few weeks. But for now, at least give it a chance.

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On 2019-01-22 22:07:32Show All Posts
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  • Scarlettblue On 2019-01-22 21:12:01
  • 5000 frags are 50 pills, true.

    And do you think getting +10% boost to your move 1 refinement purifications over 1 whole year when everybody else get it too is something big?

    How many cave keys you used to get for free 1 year ago in 1 year and how many do you get now?

    What have a bigger impact in game between 14000 cave keys and 50 pills in one year?

    The pills are an old feature, exactly like battle armor level 7+, that they begin to be way easier to get now is something the playerbase may think is normal it happens, exactly like happened for cave keys and charms.


    But here you seem you didn't get the point.

    A player like me (and evidently who replied before me thinks something similar too...) looks at those pills, at the fact we get 7/100 for free during this week (not 70/100) and do not think about the fact we got 7/100 frags for free, but thinks about: 'what item those 7 frags took the place of in the events that gave them to us? And that item would have been worth more than the 20 coupons i evalue them?'

    Then thinks: 'ok, even if maybe in persepctive may be worth it, what happens once they delivered us 95-99 for free during next weeks? Will they do like they did with tendo in UT where for over 1 year you had to pay as much as the whole ninja to get those missing 4 frags unless you had the luck of the devil in weekend chases?'

    So the average old player like me that have 0 faith in oasis and that do not trust anything they do thinks:' they implemented it to not give out other surely useful rewards in their place and to make fun of us for the n-esim time, letting us hope in something good that won't ever be implemented as the common player would love it was until it becames useless.


    P.S. The fact you chose to spend your abnormal amount of free coupons on ninjas was fully a choice of yours, but if you did like icex or tobei you would have what i said.

    That said you still have a comparable move 1 to me (slightly lower) even after you spent that amount on ninjas (and i pay, not high amounts but i do).

    And beware I'm not against you or other mods, i just think what you did is the closest thing to fairness you could do and that actually that one should be your reward as mods if they do not pay you in real money: ninja fragments. But delivered directly in the mail. Because if you get 20k coupons to buy lets say naruto six paths and you spend them during lucky board when there's a fukurokumaru deal then you actually get the ninja AND ALSO 20/30k free things as a consequence of the events. I do not think is fair that second part. You should get naruto, but not the 30k collateral power up rewards, imho.

The fact that you are still comparing the stats you gain from pills with cave keys means you think of the pills as a wholly different feature -- not an additive/bonus. If you really do think of that that way then I honestly don't know what more to say. Also, just to add, you can actually directly spend for cave keys/refines/gifts/oils/trainings so it should be fair that you would be getting a decent stat in return whereas in pills, you only get them as rebates after spending a humongous amount of resources. (The pills from Myoboku Trial - Wheel of Offerings is RNG though but if you count that one then yeah, it costs 100-$$$$$). As for the pills being an old feature and should be easier to get now, don't you think this is why the pill frags are in place now?


And yes, I do get your (plus others) point which is why you should read goalie720's post as what he said is spot on to what I was trying to say. Like I said, this is just the first week that this item is released and you lot are assuming that those frags will be useless as it will be hard to get 100 of them. Just give it a couple of weeks and if it turns out that it will indeed be hard to get them then I'm pretty sure a lot of the paid players(staff) will be happy to send the feedback, including me.

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