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[ Player Guide ] Is def/res reduction a debuff? (Gamariki summon testing)

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ICExx
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On 2018-12-23 06:18:41 ｜ Show All Posts ｜ Descending Order
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So this question has been brought up lately

I'm sure most of you who used or fought vs Gamariki summon saw that it actually reduces resistance of immune ninjas also


I decided to do a small test to see if this really is a debuff and can it be cleared ?



I used this team:

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Enemy used this:

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So in round 1 he hits my Fuguki and I use mystery to trigger Gamariki summon easily

Then Temari does standard attack + combo to reduce her cooldown and trigger mystery right away in round 1

For the cases where I wanted to "clear" the resistance debuff I used Pain-Gakido shield on Kushimaru (thus clearing 1 debuff from everyone also) right after Gamariki chase was triggered

This is also the reason why you won't see damage on Kushimaru in the "with clearing" screenshots



WITHOUT CLEARING:

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WITH CLEARING:

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CONCLUSION:


In both cases the damage on Earth Main varied 5,6 - 6k and on Gakido 4 - 4,2k which seems to be a normal variation

The def/res "debuff" can't be removed since it's not really a debuff , and that's also why it can affect immune ninjas

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ICExx
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On 2018-12-23 22:59:10 ｜ Show All Posts
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  • Garv On 2018-12-23 11:03:03

  • as far as i know, but i may be mistaking, the resistance reduction is not permanent.

    it can't be removed directly with a healing or a debuff clearing effect, but if is not applied again within a certain quantity of rounds it disappears.

    fire main's used to work so (before was modified in the current one), jiraya's chase too.

    you may test this, but i'm pretty sure that if you apply it in round 1 and in round 2 and 3 you aren't able to apply it again, then in round 4 is no more there.


There might be that, although Gamariki summon doesn't state any amount of rounds, just that it's stackable

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ICExx
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On 2018-12-23 23:05:18 ｜ Show All Posts
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  • Thibs On 2018-12-23 22:19:52

  • Hey,

    Can Karin and Sakura's christmas's debuff (passiv) can be removed by things like Madara 5k's mystery? Since their debuff last for 5 rounds.

5 kage madara removes only buffs and not debuffs therefore it is impossible


But that's an interesting question because that "debuff" does last 5 rounds, although I am pretty sure it works the same way as Gamariki that it can't be cleared

I will consider testing it next week just to be sure




This post was last edited by ICExx on 2018-12-23 23:05:55.
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