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On 2018-12-12 12:35:09Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
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For the people that ownSasuke[Rinne Sharingan], have you notice how paper thin he is? I have even tried changing his mood to +res -nin and he still dies on round 2 to most teams. Just wanted to know if anyone else has noticed this or maybe i and building him wrong.

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On 2018-12-12 12:54:03Show this Author Only
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He isn't meant to be a tank.

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On 2018-12-12 12:57:40Show this Author Only
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  • RenjiAsuka On 2018-12-12 12:54:03
  • He isn't meant to be a tank.

his damage is pretty poor, he can't tank, and his only use is control, which requires him to get hit to have a chance at working. So he has a passive that requires him to tank (surprise, he can't) and a passive that requires him to kill (surprise, he does not). Top tier ninja Oasis

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On 2018-12-14 01:38:28Show this Author Only
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Or, Or, Or....you can have a support ninja in your lineup to help him survive. Like, Hokage Minato or Hiruzen, Gakido, Fu Yamanaka, Chiriku or Konan.

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On 2018-12-14 06:51:09Show this Author Only
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He's not meant for our (most of us) current power level. As you said, he requires stats to do anything. You cant use him as move1 since he lacks damage and you cant use him as any other move because with current move1 centered meta he dies too fast. He might, just might become useful when your position 1 is almost maxed in terms of keys, refines and charms and you can start working on upgrading his equipments. So thats like 300k power? Way to go, maybe next year...


Tried several teams today with him and havent really found a lineup that I'd be satisfied with. Tried both move1 and move2. Move2 dies too fast in any case. My thoughts about move1 in team is that his boodthirsty passive is really unreliable. 1 it requires mystery, and 2 to kill. On top of that you have only 1 chance to proc it if you dont use itachi or earth main. While it gives you crit chance, your base dmg isnt that high. Because of that, if you happen to hit random line with dodger or simply dont crit and kill, you are screwed for 2 rounds. Chase is just regular chase, nothing special.

Building around his passive requires you to either run buff or immunity removal. Havent tried wind main with sand dust or red kushina yet, but 5kmadara decreases your potential dmg even more, although there are some sick chase combos you can make with 5k madara and anbu itachi. Passive chaoses a lot, but chakra drain wasnt all that noticeable tho (that perhaps depends on a team you are using and facing, if 20chakra at 1 point can make a game winning swing). Sadly, his kit is almsot useless against sosp naruto, whos going to omnipresent in time, if nothing better pops up.


I was testing different lineups vs sosp naruto team, managed to win only once so far. Need to test different mains and vs some minato teams to have a better overall look.


My first thought about possible upgrades that could help him is that he should have bloodthirsty effect on all the time, with mystery just increasing crit rate. This, or make any part of his kit (standard, mystery or even chase) undodgeable. While bloodthirsty part could actually make him godlike in some scenarios (pretty much kushimaru effect on wind mains), it would be rather balancing in general. Good thing is that there are no super armors with dodges, but on the other hand there arent many super armors in use at all (agk, madara, samehada). And you actually dont actually want to target those. In Konan's scenario, hitting without immunity supressing chase (or clearing flower guard beforehand) seems meh. Idk what to think, he has really cool looking transmog, chase and standard (especially standard), but his mystery has an awful quality. So far he seems worse than susanoo in def and dmg aspect, chakra drain isnt noticeable, chaos is random because of immunes everywhere, which is basically 20k cp wasted. Sometimes I hate that i like uchihas in the anime so much. But hey, at least i can send madara flying and cause people epilepsy.




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On 2018-12-14 11:45:15Show this Author Only
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This Sasuke makes me sad too, im a huge sasuke fan and i have always said how much i wanted this character when he came out but..he is not that good and i really dont know if i should spend those 20k on just a nice transformation literally, i hope chiriku brings some utility to him otherwise as soon as i get nuff coups ill get a 6p naruto and give up on life lmao. i wish they buffed him once more to make him par to 6p naruto, * tencent making a lore wise super strong ninja a meme.

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On 2018-12-14 14:11:08Show this Author Only
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  • Mass On 2018-12-14 11:45:15
  • This Sasuke makes me sad too, im a huge sasuke fan and i have always said how much i wanted this character when he came out but..he is not that good and i really dont know if i should spend those 20k on just a nice transformation literally, i hope chiriku brings some utility to him otherwise as soon as i get nuff coups ill get a 6p naruto and give up on life lmao. i wish they buffed him once more to make him par to 6p naruto, * tencent making a lore wise super strong ninja a meme.

i am also a huge sasuke fan, i knew he is not strong as naruto and other strong ninja, but this game is for fun right XD ? even if i didnt win in the fight, i am still happy bcuz i have sasuke in my team XD, so i bought him yesterday, he is my first event ninja and i am still so weak, i cant use him now with the other weak ninjas XD i must save again for other event ninja first, but yea, i think they should buff him :o

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On 2018-12-14 15:08:06Show this Author Only
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Sasuke will become relevant after we get to the point of multiple stacked ninjas in your line up. So for most people around 250-300k power.

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On 2018-12-14 18:16:49Show this Author Only
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Pretty sure sasuke was never meant to be really a tanky pos 1 but more of a support pos 2/3

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On 2018-12-14 18:23:34Show this Author Only
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  • KuroYamii On 2018-12-14 15:08:06
  • Sasuke will become relevant after we get to the point of multiple stacked ninjas in your line up. So for most people around 250-300k power.

Basically never, since at this rate this feat will be never achieved by f2p or low cashers. The game will run out of business before.




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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-12-14 18:23:34
  • Basically never, since at this rate this feat will be never achieved by f2p or low cashers. The game will run out of business before.

It's definitely achievable given how many power features we got during last year. 2 years ago having 100k bp was nuts. Year ago it was 200k. Surprise, looking at our forum even one or more 'ftp' got there. ST bracket in uk s300-400 is like 150-280k already. If someone has 200k now, getting to 300 next year shouldnt be much of a problem, even without heavy spending. Keep in mind grocery shop gives a lot of free power items on daily basis and there are still some features to come and make gaining power even easier.


Whether game continues at that point is entirely different matter, they will have to find another way to get people to spend, since they are super close to CN with ninjas, so we will eventually get long avaited skill experiment.

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On 2018-12-14 19:51:08Show this Author Only
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lol...sb(skilltrail included) sasuke susanoo is far better than the indra version that is why they released indra first so people will buy him..imagine if we had already had the skill trail of susanoo sasuke before the indra version less people will be inclined to get him......and yeah indra sasuke is not meant to be a tank

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On 2018-12-14 19:53:50Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-12-14 18:57:42
  • It's definitely achievable given how many power features we got during last year. 2 years ago having 100k bp was nuts. Year ago it was 200k. Surprise, looking at our forum even one or more 'ftp' got there. ST bracket in uk s300-400 is like 150-280k already. If someone has 200k now, getting to 300 next year shouldnt be much of a problem, even without heavy spending. Keep in mind grocery shop gives a lot of free power items on daily basis and there are still some features to come and make gaining power even easier.


    Whether game continues at that point is entirely different matter, they will have to find another way to get people to spend, since they are super close to CN with ninjas, so we will eventually get long avaited skill experiment.

People that are at 200k power right now just more or less maxed out the basic level of the features you talk about and are on the high diminishing return tier on move 1 and move 2 on every single feature.

Getting 250k vs being 200k is not at all the same thing as reaching 150k vs 100k.

No, we won't get enough features next 10 months to let a low casher hit 300k (i consider low casher who spends less than 50$ per month) UNLESS they begin to apply real discounts on old features. You are way overvaluing what grocery store gives you after a certain point.






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On 2018-12-14 22:42:05Show this Author Only
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He is a good ninja.

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  • Scarlettblue On 2018-12-14 19:53:50
  • People that are at 200k power right now just more or less maxed out the basic level of the features you talk about and are on the high diminishing return tier on move 1 and move 2 on every single feature.

    Getting 250k vs being 200k is not at all the same thing as reaching 150k vs 100k.

    No, we won't get enough features next 10 months to let a low casher hit 300k (i consider low casher who spends less than 50$ per month) UNLESS they begin to apply real discounts on old features. You are way overvaluing what grocery store gives you after a certain point.



Im at 200 and nowhere near maxing out. lv8 charms, lv10 runes, 1x lv10 refine and others are lv7, mangatamas l7 and 9 more levels to get in treasured tool. Thats at least 20k+ worth of power before i max out. Sure, i hit those diminishing returns, but there are features like myoboku which are still fairly cheap (around 1 cave key rebate worth) that give you ~300 per tile. Costumes give me anywhere between 1-2k depending which one. And other positions are just way, way behind. Theres a lot of room to improve, but charms and refine take an awful long to do it as low casher. Refines and threads should really get some sort of discount, because 20k for 9>10 refine which gives 1k bp is highly inefficient nowadays. But getting 1.5k bp per week isnt as hard as you describe, even with those * diminishing returns.


@Laxus

Yeah, he's decent. But he isnt anywhere near as good as jonin or sosp and he's most definitely not worth his price in this meta. Been testing another 2 mains and teams for last 5h and results are just plain bad. He doesnt excel in anything, he depends on too many things (see my post above). Mediocre dmg on mystery, mediocre def, no undodgeable standards, no undodgeable mystery, unreliable passive because it triggers once 2 rounds and requires a kill as well, also you cant even set it up because of random line targetting. SA removal is good, although you hardly ever want to start combo immediately on SA ninja. Chakra drain is good. Standard dmg is good. Chaos is good as well, but not that favoured because of immunes.. Best thing about chaos proccing on opponent ninja attack is that it carries over to next round. He's just balanced in everything, but currently cant use him either as move1 or move2, because he doesnt excel in any of those roles, there are better ninjas that do the same (except aoe remove super armor) but better. He's a jack of all trades but master of none. If you get him for free in rng event when you dont have meta team, hes going to be good. But you may just as well use now kushimaru team for dmg, any 5k madara for chakra drain or water chaos bomb for chaos and be more successful. Kicked him out of the team, gonna revisit revisit next Christmas.




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  • Zathroth On 2018-12-14 23:30:21
  • Im at 200 and nowhere near maxing out. lv8 charms, lv10 runes, 1x lv10 refine and others are lv7, mangatamas l7 and 9 more levels to get in treasured tool. Thats at least 20k+ worth of power before i max out. Sure, i hit those diminishing returns, but there are features like myoboku which are still fairly cheap (around 1 cave key rebate worth) that give you ~300 per tile. Costumes give me anywhere between 1-2k depending which one. And other positions are just way, way behind. Theres a lot of room to improve, but charms and refine take an awful long to do it as low casher. Refines and threads should really get some sort of discount, because 20k for 9>10 refine which gives 1k bp is highly inefficient nowadays. But getting 1.5k bp per week isnt as hard as you describe, even with those * diminishing returns.


    @Laxus

    Yeah, he's decent. But he isnt anywhere near as good as jonin or sosp and he's most definitely not worth his price in this meta. Been testing another 2 mains and teams for last 5h and results are just plain bad. He doesnt excel in anything, he depends on too many things (see my post above). Mediocre dmg on mystery, mediocre def, no undodgeable standards, no undodgeable mystery, unreliable passive because it triggers once 2 rounds and requires a kill as well, also you cant even set it up because of random line targetting. SA removal is good, although you hardly ever want to start combo immediately on SA ninja. Chakra drain is good. Standard dmg is good. Chaos is good as well, but not that favoured because of immunes.. Best thing about chaos proccing on opponent ninja attack is that it carries over to next round. He's just balanced in everything, but currently cant use him either as move1 or move2, because he doesnt excel in any of those roles, there are better ninjas that do the same (except aoe remove super armor) but better. He's a jack of all trades but master of none. If you get him for free in rng event when you dont have meta team, hes going to be good. But you may just as well use now kushimaru team for dmg, any 5k madara for chakra drain or water chaos bomb for chaos and be more successful. Kicked him out of the team, gonna revisit revisit next Christmas.

"Im at 200 and nowhere near maxing out. lv8 charms, lv10 runes, 1x lv10 refine and others are lv7, mangatamas l7 and 9 more levels to get in treasured tool. Thats at least 20k+ worth of power before i max out. Sure, i hit those diminishing returns, but there are features like myoboku which are still fairly cheap (around 1 cave key rebate worth) that give you ~300 per tile. Costumes give me anywhere between 1-2k depending which one. And other positions are just way, way behind. Theres a lot of room to improve, but charms and refine take an awful long to do it as low casher. Refines and threads should really get some sort of discount, because 20k for 9>10 refine which gives 1k bp is highly inefficient nowadays. But getting 1.5k bp per week isnt as hard as you describe, even with those * diminishing returns."


I am in your same situation, just 1 level 9 refine and all level 8 in the other 4 places (so, more or less...).

I'm at page 13 in myoboku balance cultivation and here 1 tile costs 182 myoboku gifts = 36400 moon scrolls.

Most of the tiles give 120/150 power, only the atk/nin ones give 250/300.

I was at 4 level 10 + 1 level 9 runes too in move 1 + two level 12 and one level 11 in move 1 treasure tool.

Today i did a 1050 roll in the cave key rebate.

1000 keys cost 200000 moon scrolls.

Got 1 gold orb only (pretty common outcome).

I was able to bring the 5 runes from level 9 to 10 and to bring the 3rd slot of the tool from level 11 to 12.

Total power gained: 1028.

So, for 272000 moon scrolls i gained 1700 power.

272000 moon scrolls are 4 weeks of hoarded resources.


Getting 1100 advanced refinements (the average required to make 1 level 8 a level 10, and the best investment, power wise, on sun scrolls after you maxed your assist links on move 1 and after you brought them to all level 8 in move 2 and all move 6/7 in move 3/4 (like i own right now)) takes 150000 sun scrolls. For an average power up of 4k.

Takes 26 weeks to get them.


Imho you should re-evaluate your calculations about grocery store.




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  • alizainy On 2018-12-14 14:11:08
  • i am also a huge sasuke fan, i knew he is not strong as naruto and other strong ninja, but this game is for fun right XD ? even if i didnt win in the fight, i am still happy bcuz i have sasuke in my team XD, so i bought him yesterday, he is my first event ninja and i am still so weak, i cant use him now with the other weak ninjas XD i must save again for other event ninja first, but yea, i think they should buff him :o

My respects fellow Sasuke fan, get chiriku, anbu itachi and go to town.

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