@JustSaying

LOL heruzen is not a useless ninja even you are a free to play dude!if you can make a better team with him and if you know how to use him as well.

F2P players wanting P2W ninjas. Well there is your mistake. If P2W ninjas were easily available to F2P, they wouldn't be P2W ninjas ;)

i never recall certain ninjas have a threshold on power to make them even remotely viable per say, sure you can say the more power the better, but isnt that with every pos1 ninja nowadays, unless ur splitting power with all 4 members of ur team?

Considering normal hiruzen still costs 12k...

Their idea of making ninjas cheaper over time is quite weird...

(fyi, hiruzen 3rd hokage was never in the meta and in 1.0 costed 20k. If a ninja that has never been in the meta just gets a 40% discount after two years how long do you think you have to wait for some other ninjas?)

If you own 100k more power than your enemy you can easily run the very basic team 7 with water main and give to your enemy whatever op ninja he wants. You will win.

Why? Because he will control fail every time, he will hit you very low, he will never crit on you while every single attack you will land on him will be a critical hit.

Because he isn't a really good ninja overall that doesn't let you win if you have lower initiative, that scales low and that is very easy to counter.

The 16k starting price, infact, was inflationated because people were hyped for him and never reflected his real value.

The only ninja that got a significative price reduction in a very limited time was shisui, but just because it messes up arena so they wanted him to be common to be able to sold at higher prices kisame samehada and madara 5th kage summit.

No, edo hiruzen price won't ever go under 16k due to his usefulness in world boss battle and 2vs2/3vs3.

About jonin minato yes he is good but not worth more than 8k coupons. A simple paralysis shut him down almost completely and when i say he stacks slowly i literally mean that with the same exact gear hokage minato, that on paper has the same passive boost, in round 5 lands literally twice the damage jonin lands (if you are able to get the same amount of stacks from the buff).

correct, you could even run a troll team, for that matter, if u have the "right" power, not just numbers to show, you will always win against someone with a power difference way below yours, reason why, cuz there's many factors contributing to this, such as control, ini, nin, tai, all these stats, play a roll mind you, especially control stat, plays a huge part in pvp, if you wanna control a fight with chaos teams you can, that's where theorycrafting comes into play, and im not gonna down in numbers, i'll let the people who know better than i do, crunching down numbers and show you, that the stat i mention, is why you are sometimes able to beat higher power.