Reply
Views: 2520 | Replies: 8
Roshi or Han first position?

 [

Copy Link

]

  • Registered: 2018-06-05
  • Topics: 7
  • Posts: 3
On 2018-12-02 10:37:54Show this Author OnlyDescending Order
1# Go To

Hello, my current goal as f2p is to have the team of Han, Roshi, Sailor Sakura and water main. I have seen that most put Han in the first position, but I think Roshi's damage in first position is superior. What do you think about it, first position Roshi or Han?

  • Registered: 2018-02-03
  • Topics: 44
  • Posts: 213
On 2018-12-02 10:41:40Show this Author Only
2#

roshi since han ain't tanky he is buy not imune and he doesn't stack with nin and def like roshi :p roshi has alot more damage

  • Registered: 2018-01-01
  • Topics: 11
  • Posts: 74
On 2018-12-02 16:12:16Show this Author Only
3#

lot of ppl use han 1st pose for his mystrey since you have 2 ezlers it wont be a problem

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 28
  • Posts: 1096
On 2018-12-02 16:15:59Show this Author Only
4#

Capture

this what you should to use

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 163
  • Posts: 2514
On 2018-12-03 11:40:58Show this Author Only
5#

the reason why han is in move 1 is because you want to clear all the buffs asap.

the whole point of the team is to endure up to round 6+ while stacking roshi's defense.

You win the fight by killing your enemies with poison and ignition or, eventually, by owning more hp at the end of round 10.

You are not supposed to fire roshi immediately at the beginning of round 2, but after sakura standard attack landed to add another stack of poison, so that is move 1 or 2 doesn't matter much (you only want to use roshi soon in round 2 if the enemy lineup is able to kill one of your ninjas with the barrier up but is not without the barrier).

Roshi may be interrupted? yes, but is not an issue. You want him to stack, so if gets interrupted by a long combo chase triggered by the interrupting effect is fine.


the best distributions on the field for them are:


Sakura x x

AF x Han

x Roshi x


or


x Roshi x

AF x Han

Sakura x x



right now the lineup works only in the healing tip version with giant katsuyu summon mystery rank 3, but requires you to wisely use your healings.

the neurotoxin version is not anymore competitive.


P.S. if you are against a heavy ignition enemy you are doomed regardless, the same if you can't endure hits with your sakura, so there's no point in hiding her behind other ninjas.




This post was last edited by Garv on 2018-12-03 11:44:39.
  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 44
  • Posts: 1571
On 2018-12-03 13:52:13Show this Author Only
6#

I used to do Han as 1.

But not sure this team would work these days. I rarely see it.

There are too many ninjas can drop ignite on you and lack of protection against heavy cc team.

If you got cc round 1 on any healer, it's almost instant-loss.

  • Registered: 2017-07-24
  • Topics: 12
  • Posts: 111
On 2018-12-04 01:12:42Show this Author Only
7#

Han in position 1 , DON'T use roshi skill on turn 2 , put roshi in the middle so he always get attacked, use his mystery on turn 3 or 4 after he get buffed.

  • Registered: 2018-02-02
  • Topics: 32
  • Posts: 2137
On 2018-12-04 17:33:23Show this Author Only
8#
  • Broken Screen On 2018-12-03 13:52:13
  • I used to do Han as 1.

    But not sure this team would work these days. I rarely see it.

    There are too many ninjas can drop ignite on you and lack of protection against heavy cc team.

    If you got cc round 1 on any healer, it's almost instant-loss.

I still use it in matsuri as one of my expendable teams and on the distribution on the field Garv said, on the healing tips version indeed still works (at least at 200k power, where you heal back 7/8k easy with mysteries).

It just doesn't grant you anymore 90%+ chance to win as it used to grant in 3.0, but still gives you, on par power, a good 50/60%.


If you are faster than the enemy lets you beat some commonly used metas as, for example, edo hirzuen's, kushimaru's, kurama's if kurama is in front of han, and honestly speaking, unless itachi susano'o is overstacked, let you beat also the itachi susano'o, shisui, madara meta (happens often, if you are not made of paper tissue, that you are perfectly able to endure up to round 4,where all the ccs are in cd, and fully heal back and eventually win on round 10 due to higher total hp left).

But succs against shark bomb lineups, edo deidara+jinpachi lineups and may have an hard time against shisui/itachi anbu meta (that is relatively common).



That said, the best f2p team right now with han is the azure fang, han, kurenai (full sb)/ningendo, itachi (full sb) one.


Talents: 22324, summon koh.




This post was last edited by Scarlettblue on 2018-12-04 17:47:54.
Reply
Quicky Post
Reply

Log in in order to Post. | Register