Much better take then your previous one.

And yes, I'd agree.

@UchihaShay

Welcome to the universal online community that enjoys to Kek, Meme and spam.

Also, that's quite the dangerous bet you would endure. Considering the sheer numbers LoL has. You would lose in a heartbeat.

No.

Daiske is an admin, not a mod, and he falls exactly in the category i talked about: those that reply only when they feel to.

He actually replies once in a while, here, differently from the other admins that are MIA, but doesn't do it when there's a question that requires specific reply and explanations unless there a serious issue going on for months.

When there are specific questions asked that require the reply of an admin, because mods can't know the answer, Daiske is actually the only person that may give us a real reply here, but most of the times he doesn't do it.

Past examples of what i mean by saying so?

1) Issue of Advanced threads not available on SA expert mode after 3.0 implementation

2) Issue of BF hard mode ninja tools that ceased to show overpowered gold stats and +4 resistances after UT was introduced.

3) Issue of too slow mergings among servers in comparison with new opened servers.

4) Issue of disappearance of mood scrolls on group wheel.

People are mostly outraged because they gave an exclusive ninja to P2W....like with hiruzen recharge and hanna style recharge(was too pricey tho) AKA some people are paying and getting exclusive content and we are mad about it(give it to me free * it.lol). That being said, price is too high for Madara... even for most paying players(I really don't care for him personally).

As for kid kakashi, you guys could try selling it for 50-250 ingots or 500-1000 coupons.I mean, a person who has minato can afford it. Well it is upto even planners and not for mods so IDK.

Interesting choice of words "Exclusive"

Day 1 Exclusive, correct however that term is barring the exception that these items come back, and normally come back in a wide range for the entire playerbase.

There's honestly, hardly any exclusiveness in Naruto-Online (Fact Check it all you want)

Hiruzen came back into the Great Tree, then Lucky Board, then Lucky Wheel redeems, etc.

Hana Style outfit came back in Lucky Board (Which was quite successful fyi)

So again, exclusive now isn't the term that's accurate. And frankly, this game is a game of patience. Releasing first week limited content for the specific portion of the population that wants to buy it, isn't wrong. It's just how and what event it's released on that matters. Which is the gauge of opinion that differs between a lot of F2P on the forums and actual low spenders/paying players.

Also, that general assumption that Jonin Minato owners can afford it

Just saying.

@Scarlettblue

Hierarchy of information plus information on future featured content.

Most of those additional sections became null the moment Ninja Scrolls/Moon-Sun Shop came out.

Tencent will not re-code specific areas, knowing Kakashi will be added into the scroll later. Regardless of our requests for it. (Which already has been made long before Kakashi was in Great Plates)

So, are we aware? Of course, moderators are players too fyi.

Interesting choice of words "Exclusive"

Day 1 Exclusive, correct however that term is barring the exception that these items come back, and normally come back in a wide range for the entire playerbase.

There's honestly, hardly any exclusiveness in Naruto-Online (Fact Check it all you want)

Hiruzen came back into the Great Tree, then Lucky Board, then Lucky Wheel redeems, etc.

Hana Style outfit came back in Lucky Board (Which was quite successful fyi)

So again, exclusive now isn't the term that's accurate. And frankly, this game is a game of patience. Releasing first week limited content for the specific portion of the population that wants to buy it, isn't wrong. It's just how and what event it's released on that matters. Which is the gauge of opinion that differs between a lot of F2P on the forums and actual low spenders/paying players.

Also, that general assumption that Jonin Minato owners can afford it

Just saying.

@Scarlettblue

Hierarchy of information plus information on future featured content.

Most of those additional sections became null the moment Ninja Scrolls/Moon-Sun Shop came out.

Tencent will not re-code specific areas, knowing Kakashi will be added into the scroll later. Regardless of our requests for it. (Which already has been made long before Kakashi was in Great Plates)

So, are we aware? Of course, moderators are players too fyi.

Technically, when they were released, they were ingot only AKA they were exclusive(madara is still exclusive might change so)....well I know it is always few weeks or months exclusive(except for monthly card+jonin medal for some extent) ,but most people always cry when it is not redeemable for coupons from day 1(not saying they are right or anything wrong with what you guys doing).They always want to get the newly released items for free /using coupons just after the release. If you look at the trend, you will see that, most of the time when you introduce a ninja in a recharge/spending rebate ,f2p cry about not being redeemable for coupons;not agreeing with their entitled way of thinking ,but just stating the saltiness of the common player base.As you can see from the comments of this thread, some f2p expects to compete with whales.lol

Technically, most people got minato from saving coupons(except the people got him from wheel/free from mission general or other events) and common f2p can sure save 500-1000 coupons from current events right? As for ingots ,yes some are complete f2p but there exist a large number of fake f2p...even if they are real f2p, they might dishout small amount of ingots ...I mean if you can afford a PC and internet, you sure could afford 50-250 ingots(sure, if you are using another person's computer or a child, this is not the case)...trying to make people spend some money is good for the game...Just Saying.

As for,if they want to implement these stuff depends on many factors I guess... coding + cost of changes and not wanting to make events too good; so, some f2p might start spending.So,I do understand the logic from your side.

what if i dont wanna recharge anymore, to a game that has not been completly transparent with their decisions(for 2 years yes...geez), i recharged yes back in the days in hope that my money was put to good investment and good choices for the future right? isnt that what a game is all about, giving them so u can enjoy the content later? and i feel at least me, that my money i invested in this game wasnt put to good use, lot of bad decisions were made, the "feedback" post was a absolute joke, since they already have their hands and feet tied by tencent's content of patches and such, that everything we said was for nothing, so when u recharge, are u really supporting this company, in a way yes, but u mainly doing it for to get power/ninjas whatever, from there it's your money, your call, no one has the right to judge you from there, but if you tell me "im going to go for a 3k ninja" i would call you insane, but you do what you gotta do, if you enjoy the game by spending so be it, in the grand scheme of things, majority of players that spend alot wether be weekly basis or monthly basis will eventually move on, if they feel their money is not worth the rewards they get. That's my opinion of it.

Yes, except that you play the game of the whales and not the game of the common players, given the abnormal quantity of coupons you own by doing your job.

I'm not saying is wrong you get this wage, but doesn't make you feel what the common player feels.

I just look at you all and i see only people with 250k+ accounts. Something that put you all in top16 in your respective bracket.

How may you know what a 120-150k f2p player feels?

P. S. I don't see what is the link between monthly event and grocery store. So you are telling us that monthly event cannot be touched anymore because grocery store was implemented?

moderators are players too yes but are moderators competing with regular players? seems a bit unfair... And i've seen a video where some guy named utopia haacked into a mods account and found 80 tsunade hokage frags on the guy's mail so... yea looks fair for the other players lol. Fortunately for you guys the guy deleted all his videos. Would you like to give your opinion on that?

Don't forget you need compensation for what you are doing. We don't know if people that work for Oasis are paid in real money only, game currency/ninjas only or a combination of both and I don't expect them to tell how they are compensated.

My outlook of the game is of a whale because regardless of my Moderation earning, I've spent quite a large number of my own money into the game.

And of course, that's why there's a range of team that's suppose to provide different viewpoints of how players view spending on reports received.

I'm only typing in this thread based on my experiences and my outlook of the game.

@UchihaShay

", since they already have their hands and feet tied by tencent's content of patches and such, that everything we said was for nothing"

While I agree to a point, let me put it in this way, which is quite unpopular by the way.

What if that Feedback post wasn't about if the content would arrive or not, but if it should come now or later?

Which by the way, served its propose.

@BigKaz

Moderators only receive salary as compensation for the work we do.

Watching videos and taking it as absolute facts and adding the assumption that it's "moderators"

You have your truth, and there's absolutely nothing I can say to change that.

There's not gonna be a discussion on that matter when it's entirely based on one viewpoint.

If you want to discuss it openly, feel free to hop on discord.

@JustSaying

The double jab is a funny thing.

Doing the exact thing you've said, would echo back to what this thread was open on.

contradictory actions, and thus the salt would be unlimited

Salary = Coupons.

It's public knowledge.

As for how much? That's undisclosed.

Unfortunately for you, its no longer undisclosed. Senbon released that info in his latest video. I'm certain you will either just ignore/delete this this post or attack his credibility (as you just did with the video of a Mod account getting *ed (which exposed the fact that they had a blatant unfair advantage while actively competing with REAL players), just as Oasis did with Aristeus, etc....via saying its one-sided while refusing to put up the other side of the argument). Every time something major like that has happened, it was suppressed via 1984 style and swept under the rug until people went back to sleep and forgot about it.

Sorry, you don't get to use the, "It is just a one-sided account" while REFUSING to even bring YOUR SIDE (Oasis, not yours) to the table.

List of things that were forgotten: (there are many more examples, but these stand out the most)

Aristeus video disclosing the fact that he spun lucky stars wheel for max every single day and no jackpot.....coming to the conclusion that it was 0% drop rate.

Ingot only wheel of fortune where people got screwed out of their respective jackpots on the coupons that they could earn (still videos out there of this on youtube). Turns out it glitched and people were spending ingots like crazy to stay on top, then Oasis fixed it and essentially reset the jackpot counts.....thus people spent $1000s and got nowhere near what they were promised.

Flowers event (not once, but twice!! Unacceptable and people should have been fired for this) where people weren't properly told that this was a cross server event AND combined with the fact that the listings ONLY displayed their server....so those that spend $300 to get top spot were sorely mistaken thus they lost money they never would have spent.

The itachi susanno bug where people in yet ANOTHER flower event were able to get the jackpot prize immediately bu just simply placing first, but before the event actually ended. The reason why I mention this is because this is proof that OASIS HAS THE ABILITY TO ADJUST AND IMMEDIATELY FIX issues similar to this. Almost instantly when people were recruiting Itachi, they took it offline and reverted everyone that had gotten him. After all, he was (still is?) a 150k ninja or more if you were to buy the seal scrolls outright. Which brings me to the.....

Foodsacks event where the majority of the people were able to benefit from cheaper ninjas/power (by over 50%) and dirt cheep redeems on Cloak/suit sakura/sasuke. All throughout the week, Oasis claimed they couldn't do anything to revert it back....essentially LIED saying it was always 20 coupons per sack (wrong, it was 10 since introduction) even though they literally hotfixed the price and adjusted it real time without taking the servers offline. If that wasn't enough, the people that actually did redeem for cheap purification runes lost out when they reverted the packs back....at a very capped rate.

Starting to see a pattern here when it comes to what Oasis is mostly concerned about......(Hint, it isn't satisfying OR protecting the players)

While GLs get a 1500 bi-weekly salary, its amazing (and disheartening) to learn that the higher ups (included but not limited to mods gl hiring, etc) can make upwards of 16,000 coupons every two weeks (via doing extra "work" for Oasis). When you are given that for essentially little work AND combine that with the fact that you are essentially competing with people who play this game, that is pretty unfair. And please, don't compare this to someone getting a job and spending their real money on this game. It isn't the same, not by a long shot. People work 35 hours an average per week. 6-8 hours per day. They spend $100 for 5,000 ingots.....vs a couple hours a week for 8k coupons? Give me a break.

I also am amused at your example of Oasis listening to players....when it comes to PAYING players....even though I'm almost certain that they never asked to be milked THIS hard just in time for Christmas. Better to get paid that to give to the players no doubt.

What about skill experiments?

What about RNG rates that by law you are supposed to provide now? (Don't give me the rhetoric of that is china, etc. because you certainly buckled when it came to sailor sakura and playboy sasuke)

How about the mood scrolls in the Group Wheel?

People's concern about releasing all the new ninjas every week?

And most hilariously: What about peoples illusion of choice on CROSS SERVER SAGE WORLD? Remember when people were given a poll as to what they wanted....and they overwhelmingly were against it? I know you were there for that. But Oasis and friends went ahead and did it anyways.

The point is, you (not you specifically, Oasis) DOES NOT LISTEN to their community the majority of the time. I believe it is safe to say that 15% of the time they listen....14% of the time its for the spenders and 1% of the time its for everyone else. You can be slick and say, "Well on our discord they say blah blah blah ad nausem..." but this is supposed to be the OFFICIAL FORUMS of this game.....and you are opening saying that opinions here have less weight vs discord? Why even bother asking us for feedback on here then? Why post ANY content here?

You can (and will) defend Oasis until this game closes, that is because you have a vested interested in this game in the thousands of coupons they give you per month. That alone is enough to skew anyone's view and ultimately become biased (there are many ways that bias can take form, simply because you [specifically] aren't displaying it in one form doesn't mean you are in other aspects).

The only reason why they pay you in coupons and not in real money is to cir*vent the law that would force you to admit that you are paid by the company every time you give an opinion. That and hiring literal minors to do work. Can't really call yourself an employee or representative if you never signed a contract or anything of the sort.

Final thought.....why is it that everyone who seems to "work" for Oasis and then leave, they are always 'jaded' or frustrated? Just strange, is all....

Unfortunately for you, its no longer undisclosed. Senbon released that info in his latest video. I'm certain you will either just ignore/delete this this post or attack his credibility (as you just did with the video of a Mod account getting *ed (which exposed the fact that they had a blatant unfair advantage while actively competing with REAL players), just as Oasis did with Aristeus, etc....via saying its one-sided while refusing to put up the other side of the argument). Every time something major like that has happened, it was suppressed via 1984 style and swept under the rug until people went back to sleep and forgot about it.

Sorry, you don't get to use the, "It is just a one-sided account" while REFUSING to even bring YOUR SIDE (Oasis, not yours) to the table.

List of things that were forgotten: (there are many more examples, but these stand out the most)

Aristeus video disclosing the fact that he spun lucky stars wheel for max every single day and no jackpot.....coming to the conclusion that it was 0% drop rate.

Ingot only wheel of fortune where people got screwed out of their respective jackpots on the coupons that they could earn (still videos out there of this on youtube). Turns out it glitched and people were spending ingots like crazy to stay on top, then Oasis fixed it and essentially reset the jackpot counts.....thus people spent $1000s and got nowhere near what they were promised.

Flowers event (not once, but twice!! Unacceptable and people should have been fired for this) where people weren't properly told that this was a cross server event AND combined with the fact that the listings ONLY displayed their server....so those that spend $300 to get top spot were sorely mistaken thus they lost money they never would have spent.

The itachi susanno bug where people in yet ANOTHER flower event were able to get the jackpot prize immediately bu just simply placing first, but before the event actually ended. The reason why I mention this is because this is proof that OASIS HAS THE ABILITY TO ADJUST AND IMMEDIATELY FIX issues similar to this. Almost instantly when people were recruiting Itachi, they took it offline and reverted everyone that had gotten him. After all, he was (still is?) a 150k ninja or more if you were to buy the seal scrolls outright. Which brings me to the.....

Foodsacks event where the majority of the people were able to benefit from cheaper ninjas/power (by over 50%) and dirt cheep redeems on Cloak/suit sakura/sasuke. All throughout the week, Oasis claimed they couldn't do anything to revert it back....essentially LIED saying it was always 20 coupons per sack (wrong, it was 10 since introduction) even though they literally hotfixed the price and adjusted it real time without taking the servers offline. If that wasn't enough, the people that actually did redeem for cheap purification runes lost out when they reverted the packs back....at a very capped rate.

Starting to see a pattern here when it comes to what Oasis is mostly concerned about......(Hint, it isn't satisfying OR protecting the players)

While GLs get a 1500 bi-weekly salary, its amazing (and disheartening) to learn that the higher ups (included but not limited to mods gl hiring, etc) can make upwards of 16,000 coupons every two weeks (via doing extra "work" for Oasis). When you are given that for essentially little work AND combine that with the fact that you are essentially competing with people who play this game, that is pretty unfair. And please, don't compare this to someone getting a job and spending their real money on this game. It isn't the same, not by a long shot. People work 35 hours an average per week. 6-8 hours per day. They spend $100 for 5,000 ingots.....vs a couple hours a week for 8k coupons? Give me a break.

I also am amused at your example of Oasis listening to players....when it comes to PAYING players....even though I'm almost certain that they never asked to be milked THIS hard just in time for Christmas. Better to get paid that to give to the players no doubt.

What about skill experiments?

What about RNG rates that by law you are supposed to provide now? (Don't give me the rhetoric of that is china, etc. because you certainly buckled when it came to sailor sakura and playboy sasuke)

How about the mood scrolls in the Group Wheel?

People's concern about releasing all the new ninjas every week?

And most hilariously: What about peoples illusion of choice on CROSS SERVER SAGE WORLD? Remember when people were given a poll as to what they wanted....and they overwhelmingly were against it? I know you were there for that. But Oasis and friends went ahead and did it anyways.

The point is, you (not you specifically, Oasis) DOES NOT LISTEN to their community the majority of the time. I believe it is safe to say that 15% of the time they listen....14% of the time its for the spenders and 1% of the time its for everyone else. You can be slick and say, "Well on our discord they say blah blah blah ad nausem..." but this is supposed to be the OFFICIAL FORUMS of this game.....and you are opening saying that opinions here have less weight vs discord? Why even bother asking us for feedback on here then? Why post ANY content here?

You can (and will) defend Oasis until this game closes, that is because you have a vested interested in this game in the thousands of coupons they give you per month. That alone is enough to skew anyone's view and ultimately become biased (there are many ways that bias can take form, simply because you [specifically] aren't displaying it in one form doesn't mean you are in other aspects).

The only reason why they pay you in coupons and not in real money is to cir*vent the law that would force you to admit that you are paid by the company every time you give an opinion. That and hiring literal minors to do work. Can't really call yourself an employee or representative if you never signed a contract or anything of the sort.

Final thought.....why is it that everyone who seems to "work" for Oasis and then leave, they are always 'jaded' or frustrated? Just strange, is all....

Quite the jarring post.

Expected to be completely honest.

Also, side note. Senbon (Jiraiya) is my personal friend and I'm having quite the laugh with the information and rambling in his latest video.

And no, don't be certain about an action that clearly I'm replying too. So let me again, state. My salary is undisclosed. There's public information and hearsay by others, if you believe it, so be it. GL salary, for example, has been commonfolk. You think Senbons video is shining light on it? Stop.

As for your entire second paragraph.

I actually agree. Higher staff should be receiving more because of the hours we put into our considered assignments.

So I wouldn't dare compare my actual living wage. But thanks though. Also for your next sentence, I'll quote myself.

"My outlook of the game is of a whale because regardless of my Moderation earning, I've spent quite a large number of my own money into the game.

And of course, that's why there's a range of team that's suppose to provide different viewpoints of how players view spending on reports received.

I'm only typing in this thread based on my experiences and my outlook of the game."

Take it from what you will.

What about skill experiments?

Incoming in future updates.

What about RNG rates that by law you are supposed to provide now? (Don't give me the rhetoric of that is china, etc. because you certainly buckled when it came to sailor sakura and playboy sasuke):

That rhetoric that actually applies. Sakura and Playboy Sasuke are completely and utterly due to license issues.

How about the mood scrolls in the Group Wheel?

Were never meant to be in the group wheel in the first place, However, Tencent decided to change the plans (Due to 3.0) when Oasis(+Staff) pushed for Mood scrolls. This has been repeated, over and over again. A simple Discord search or Forum search will find it.

People's concern about releasing all the new ninjas every week?

That's my concern as well. And has been pushed again.

And most hilariously: What about peoples illusion of choice on CROSS SERVER SAGE WORLD? Remember when people were given a poll as to what they wanted....and they overwhelmingly were against it? I know you were there for that. But Oasis and friends went ahead and did it anyways.

Badly titled post that mislead people into thinking one thing over another.

Slick Tobias says Discord because well, Discord is the freest form where you get direct argument, discussion and disagreements from me and allows me to easily reply back without a tedious wait due to the forums, Majority of the time, the lovely posters that are extremely negative, can't create defenses or debates without watching a video to determine their emotional mindset and/or original thought.

As for the matter of me defending Oasis? I will if it's just in certain aspects, if not they'll hear it the loudest from me.

Oh, and my actual earning being spent into the game is what gives me the honorable right to critic them at its core.

But thank you for your opinion and gestures.

Edit: Didn't see your edit, will comment on additional comments at a later time.

Unfortunately for you, its no longer undisclosed. Senbon released that info in his latest video. I'm certain you will either just ignore/delete this this post or attack his credibility (as you just did with the video of a Mod account getting *ed (which exposed the fact that they had a blatant unfair advantage while actively competing with REAL players), just as Oasis did with Aristeus, etc....via saying its one-sided while refusing to put up the other side of the argument). Every time something major like that has happened, it was suppressed via 1984 style and swept under the rug until people went back to sleep and forgot about it.

Sorry, you don't get to use the, "It is just a one-sided account" while REFUSING to even bring YOUR SIDE (Oasis, not yours) to the table.

List of things that were forgotten: (there are many more examples, but these stand out the most)

Aristeus video disclosing the fact that he spun lucky stars wheel for max every single day and no jackpot.....coming to the conclusion that it was 0% drop rate.

Ingot only wheel of fortune where people got screwed out of their respective jackpots on the coupons that they could earn (still videos out there of this on youtube). Turns out it glitched and people were spending ingots like crazy to stay on top, then Oasis fixed it and essentially reset the jackpot counts.....thus people spent $1000s and got nowhere near what they were promised.

Flowers event (not once, but twice!! Unacceptable and people should have been fired for this) where people weren't properly told that this was a cross server event AND combined with the fact that the listings ONLY displayed their server....so those that spend $300 to get top spot were sorely mistaken thus they lost money they never would have spent.

The itachi susanno bug where people in yet ANOTHER flower event were able to get the jackpot prize immediately bu just simply placing first, but before the event actually ended. The reason why I mention this is because this is proof that OASIS HAS THE ABILITY TO ADJUST AND IMMEDIATELY FIX issues similar to this. Almost instantly when people were recruiting Itachi, they took it offline and reverted everyone that had gotten him. After all, he was (still is?) a 150k ninja or more if you were to buy the seal scrolls outright. Which brings me to the.....

Foodsacks event where the majority of the people were able to benefit from cheaper ninjas/power (by over 50%) and dirt cheep redeems on Cloak/suit sakura/sasuke. All throughout the week, Oasis claimed they couldn't do anything to revert it back....essentially LIED saying it was always 20 coupons per sack (wrong, it was 10 since introduction) even though they literally hotfixed the price and adjusted it real time without taking the servers offline. If that wasn't enough, the people that actually did redeem for cheap purification runes lost out when they reverted the packs back....at a very capped rate.

Starting to see a pattern here when it comes to what Oasis is mostly concerned about......(Hint, it isn't satisfying OR protecting the players)

While GLs get a 1500 bi-weekly salary, its amazing (and disheartening) to learn that the higher ups (included but not limited to mods gl hiring, etc) can make upwards of 16,000 coupons every two weeks (via doing extra "work" for Oasis). When you are given that for essentially little work AND combine that with the fact that you are essentially competing with people who play this game, that is pretty unfair. And please, don't compare this to someone getting a job and spending their real money on this game. It isn't the same, not by a long shot. People work 35 hours an average per week. 6-8 hours per day. They spend $100 for 5,000 ingots.....vs a couple hours a week for 8k coupons? Give me a break.

I also am amused at your example of Oasis listening to players....when it comes to PAYING players....even though I'm almost certain that they never asked to be milked THIS hard just in time for Christmas. Better to get paid that to give to the players no doubt.

What about skill experiments?

What about RNG rates that by law you are supposed to provide now? (Don't give me the rhetoric of that is china, etc. because you certainly buckled when it came to sailor sakura and playboy sasuke)

How about the mood scrolls in the Group Wheel?

People's concern about releasing all the new ninjas every week?

And most hilariously: What about peoples illusion of choice on CROSS SERVER SAGE WORLD? Remember when people were given a poll as to what they wanted....and they overwhelmingly were against it? I know you were there for that. But Oasis and friends went ahead and did it anyways.

The point is, you (not you specifically, Oasis) DOES NOT LISTEN to their community the majority of the time. I believe it is safe to say that 15% of the time they listen....14% of the time its for the spenders and 1% of the time its for everyone else. You can be slick and say, "Well on our discord they say blah blah blah ad nausem..." but this is supposed to be the OFFICIAL FORUMS of this game.....and you are opening saying that opinions here have less weight vs discord? Why even bother asking us for feedback on here then? Why post ANY content here?

You can (and will) defend Oasis until this game closes, that is because you have a vested interested in this game in the thousands of coupons they give you per month. That alone is enough to skew anyone's view and ultimately become biased (there are many ways that bias can take form, simply because you [specifically] aren't displaying it in one form doesn't mean you are in other aspects).

The only reason why they pay you in coupons and not in real money is to cir*vent the law that would force you to admit that you are paid by the company every time you give an opinion. That and hiring literal minors to do work. Can't really call yourself an employee or representative if you never signed a contract or anything of the sort.

Final thought.....why is it that everyone who seems to "work" for Oasis and then leave, they are always 'jaded' or frustrated? Just strange, is all....