Much better take then your previous one.
And yes, I'd agree.
Welcome to the universal online community that enjoys to Kek, Meme and spam.
Also, that's quite the dangerous bet you would endure. Considering the sheer numbers LoL has. You would lose in a heartbeat.
Putting him in monthly event for 10 points per frag no eh?
In the sense.
Are you guys aware that feature exists in game and is wholly useless and outdated or not? Sometimes i wonder if you actually think only hot topics events exist.
There's also the group shop left if you talk to the merchant in konoha. Why not there, if not in the monthly event, for 300 currencies per frag?
No.
Daiske is an admin, not a mod, and he falls exactly in the category i talked about: those that reply only when they feel to.
He actually replies once in a while, here, differently from the other admins that are MIA, but doesn't do it when there's a question that requires specific reply and explanations unless there a serious issue going on for months.
When there are specific questions asked that require the reply of an admin, because mods can't know the answer, Daiske is actually the only person that may give us a real reply here, but most of the times he doesn't do it.
Past examples of what i mean by saying so?
1) Issue of Advanced threads not available on SA expert mode after 3.0 implementation
2) Issue of BF hard mode ninja tools that ceased to show overpowered gold stats and +4 resistances after UT was introduced.
3) Issue of too slow mergings among servers in comparison with new opened servers.
4) Issue of disappearance of mood scrolls on group wheel.
The way daiske and the other admins interact with the community is horrible, most of the times they give fake or partial informations to mods to just let them manage the enraged playerba
Just look at how ended the very good initiative of the threads that asked about what the community wanted!
Interesting choice of words "Exclusive"
Day 1 Exclusive, correct however that term is barring the exception that these items come back, and normally come back in a wide range for the entire playerba
There's honestly, hardly any exclusiveness in Naruto-Online (Fact Check it all you want)
Hiruzen came back into the Great Tree, then Lucky Board, then Lucky Wheel redeems, etc.
Hana Style outfit came back in Lucky Board (Which was quite successful fyi)
So again, exclusive now isn't the term that's accurate. And frankly, this game is a game of patience. Releasing first week limited content for the specific portion of the population that wants to buy it, isn't wrong. It's just how and what event it's released on that matters. Which is the gauge of opinion that differs between a lot of F2P on the forums and actual low spenders/paying players.
Also, that general assumption that Jonin Minato owners can afford it
Just saying.
Hierarchy of information plus information on future featured content.
Most of those additional sections became null the moment Ninja Scrolls/Moon-Sun Shop came out.
Tencent will not re-code specific areas, knowing Kakashi will be added into the scroll later. Regardless of our requests for it. (Which already has been made long before Kakashi was in Great Plates)
So, are we aware? Of course, moderators are players too fyi.
Yes, except that you play the game of the whales and not the game of the common players, given the abnormal quantity of coupons you own by doing your job.
I'm not saying is wrong you get this wage, but doesn't make you feel what the common player feels.
I just look at you all and i see only people with 250k+ accounts. Something that put you all in top16 in your respective bracket.
How may you know what a 120-150k f2p player feels?
P. S. I don't see what is the li
Unfortunately for you, its no longer undisclosed. Senbon released that info in his latest video. I'm certain you will either just ignore/delete this this post or attack his credibility (as you just did with the video of a Mod account getting *ed (which exposed the fact that they had a blatant unfair advantage while actively competing with REAL players), just as Oasis did with Aristeus, etc....via saying its one-sided while refusing to put up the other side of the argument). Every time something major like that has happened, it was suppressed via 1984 style and swept under the rug until people went back to sleep and forgot about it.
Sorry, you don't get to use the, "It is just a one-sided account" while REFUSING to even bring YOUR SIDE (Oasis, not yours) to the table.
List of things that were forgotten: (there are many more examples, but these stand out the most)
Aristeus video disclosing the fact that he spun lucky stars wheel for max every single day and no jackpot.....coming to the conclusion that it was 0% drop rate.
Ingot only wheel of fortune where people got screwed out of their respective jackpots on the coupons that they could earn (still videos out there of this on youtube). Turns out it glitched and people were spending ingots like crazy to stay on top, then Oasis fixed it and essentially reset the jackpot counts.....thus people spent $1000s and got nowhere near what they were promised.
Flowers event (not once, but twice!! Unacceptable and people should have been fired for this) where people weren't properly told that this was a cross server event AND combined with the fact that the listings ONLY displayed their server....so those that spend $300 to get top spot were sorely mistaken thus they lost money they never would have spent.
The itachi susanno bug where people in yet ANOTHER flower event were able to get the jackpot prize immediately bu just simply placing first, but before the event actually ended. The reason why I mention this is because this is proof that OASIS HAS THE ABILITY TO ADJUST AND IMMEDIATELY FIX issues similar to this. Almost instantly when people were recruiting Itachi, they took it offline and reverted everyone that had gotten him. After all, he was (still is?) a 150k ninja or more if you were to buy the seal scrolls outright. Which brings me to the.....
Foodsacks event where the majority of the people were able to benefit from cheaper ninjas/power (by over 50%) and dirt cheep redeems on Cloak/suit sakura/sasuke. All throughout the week, Oasis claimed they couldn't do anything to revert it back....essentially LIED saying it was always 20 coupons per sack (wrong, it was 10 since introduction) even though they literally hotfixed the price and adjusted it real time without taking the servers offline. If that wasn't enough, the people that actually did redeem for cheap purification runes lost out when they reverted the packs back....at a very capped rate.
Starting to see a pattern here when it comes to what Oasis is mostly concerned about......(Hint, it isn't satisfying OR protecting the players)
While GLs get a 1500 bi-weekly salary, its amazing (and disheartening) to learn that the higher ups (included but not limited to mods gl hiring, etc) can make upwards of 16,000 coupons every two weeks (via doing extra "work" for Oasis). When you are given that for essentially little work AND combine that with the fact that you are essentially competing with people who play this game, that is pretty unfair. And please, don't compare this to someone getting a job and spending their real money on this game. It isn't the same, not by a long shot. People work 35 hours an average per week. 6-8 hours per day. They spend $100 for 5,000 ingots.....vs a couple hours a week for 8k coupons? Give me a break.
I also am amused at your example of Oasis listening to players....when it comes to PAYING players....even though I'm almost certain that they never asked to be milked THIS hard just in time for Christmas. Better to get paid that to give to the players no doubt.
What about skill experiments?
What about RNG rates that by law you are supposed to provide now? (Don't give me the rhetoric of that is china, etc. because you certainly buckled when it came to sailor sakura and playboy sasuke)
How about the mood scrolls in the Group Wheel?
People's concern about releasing all the new ninjas every week?
And most hilariously: What about peoples illusion of choice on CROSS SERVER SAGE WORLD? Remember when people were given a poll as to what they wanted....and they overwhelmingly were against it? I know you were there for that. But Oasis and friends went ahead and did it anyways.
The point is, you (not you specifically, Oasis) DOES NOT LISTEN to their community the majority of the time. I believe it is safe to say that 15% of the time they listen....14% of the time its for the spenders and 1% of the time its for everyone else. You can be slick and say, "Well on our discord they say blah blah blah ad nausem..." but this is supposed to be the OFFICIAL FORUMS of this game.....and you are opening saying that opinions here have less weight vs discord? Why even bother asking us for feedback on here then? Why post ANY content here?
You can (and will) defend Oasis until this game closes, that is because you have a vested interested in this game in the thousands of coupons they give you per month. That alone is enough to skew anyone's view and ultimately become biased (there are many ways that bias can take form, simply because you [specifically] aren't displaying it in one form doesn't mean you are in other aspects).
The only reason why they pay you in coupons and not in real money is to cir*vent the law that would force you to admit that you are paid by the company every time you give an opinion. That and hiring literal minors to do work. Can't really call yourself an employee or representative if you never signed a contract or anything of the sort.
Final thought.....why is it that everyone who seems to "work" for Oasis and then leave, they are always 'jaded' or frustrated? Just strange, is all....
You pointed out everything perfectly. Marvelous reply. Vote 10.
May i add something more since garv pointed it out?
'advanced threads are there as potential drops in sa expert mode, just with a low chance' has been the OFFICIAL REPLY of oasis for over 4 months when 3.0 was introduced while legions of people showed in any possible ways that wasn't true and entire servers in thousands of tries never got one.
Then treasure tools were implemented (don't remember if was this feature or another one, doesn't really matter) and they magically become sure drops once per try for the whole 4.0 (as was supposed to be since the beginning, showing blatantly how a lie was the previously official assumption).
"Believe what you will"
I stand by that because I'm not here to convince you differently, I'll say my side and finish at that.
You have the liberty to express your experiences and your rhetoric as openly as you want.
As for the Mood Scroll,
Yes, you're entirely right. A promise is a promise. And there's no denying that it was broken, thus lied upon.
We tried and stated that it would be something that would be coming back, we tried fighting for it but denied due to Tencent, I've explained it to people multiple times throughout the forums and discord. That hasn't changed.
As you say "it side-steps"
No, there's a multitude of people that refuse to use the forums because of this community.
Discord is a better form of communication. It's *ternative option and one that is vastly more expressive with fewer restrictions
The problem here, tobei, is what happened after oasis admitted it was a broken promise (and took over 1 year to make them admit it).
Was mood scrolls cost in any following event cut by 10 times? No
Were 500 mood scrolls sent to every player as a compensation? No
This is the problem with oasis.
They behave like they have no responsibility. Every single time.
sorry if i say this but, while i'm sure that oasis was not happy that tencent denied them the chance to update the group wheel, oasis didn't actually do anything, after this became a matter of fact, to make us feel they really cared for us.
as Scarlettblue said, if they really cared about the broken promise nothing would have stopped them from simply adding mood scrolls pack with 10 of them in at a symbolic cost of 1 coupon for the following year, or to simply choose to go for the dango only system the second after tencent replied with a no.
Why was not done?
the backthought all of us had at that time was simply one: they want to go on milking us or making us spend hunderds of coupons on a feature they promised to give us for free and what actually happened in game, sadly, is exactly this.
@Tobei: at least answer this one. Otherwise seems you deliberately skipped every single reply he made since you didn't answer nor mentioned him in any of your replies and he was who started the real thread...
Interesting choice of words "Exclusive"
Day 1 Exclusive, correct however that term is barring the exception that these items come back, and normally come back in a wide range for the entire playerba
There's honestly, hardly any exclusiveness in Naruto-Online (Fact Check it all you want)
Hiruzen came back into the Great Tree, then Lucky Board, then Lucky Wheel redeems, etc.
Hana Style outfit came back in Lucky Board (Which was quite successful fyi)
So again, exclusive now isn't the term that's accurate. And frankly, this game is a game of patience. Releasing first week limited content for the specific portion of the population that wants to buy it, isn't wrong. It's just how and what event it's released on that matters. Which is the gauge of opinion that differs between a lot of F2P on the forums and actual low spenders/paying players.
Also, that general assumption that Jonin Minato owners can afford it
Just saying.
Hierarchy of information plus information on future featured content.
Most of those additional sections became null the moment Ninja Scrolls/Moon-Sun Shop came out.
Tencent will not re-code specific areas, knowing Kakashi will be added into the scroll later. Regardless of our requests for it. (Which already has been made long before Kakashi was in Great Plates)
So, are we aware? Of course, moderators are players too fyi.
"most of those additional..."
And the day after:
umm... no it's gonna be mostly paid content... and the "free content" will be.... not that great, to put it this way...
To be honest i would be happy if they put in the very minimum effort by adding 3 features: 1) kage ti normal and hard mode. 2) all the basic missing ninjas skillbreaktroughs we still miss and 3) permanently release 1 or 2 edo jinchuriki treasure.
When one mod at least bother to answer your questions tread lightly...he is not incharge of operation of oasis and has limited say.lol He said most not all :P If you compare our group shop to china it is not the same so it is expected to have few updates before getting there....we got a new summon so it make sense to add more ways to feed summons.Easiest way to get mood scrolls is , *er up a whale, let him carry you in bonds then get mood scrolls from strange stone shop :V
Tobei replied to my reply and i deliberately talked about only group shop and monthly event.
His reply was that was not possible for oasis to modify most of them since grocery store opened.
After two days a modification of group shop happens, so was evidently possible.
My reply was focusing on this
"Are you guys aware that feature exists in the game and is wholly useless and outdated or not? Sometimes i wonder if you actually think only hot topics events exist."
Please, it was in reference to Kakashi Boy's fragments.
Group Summon packs are something that frankly was there long before anything in 5.0.
So it was quite awkward for Tencent to let us have it now than before.
Also, "Most of those additional sections"
Good thing that references most, and not all
Adding kakashi shonen in the place of konan or Jigokudo, that are redeemable at a lower price than in group shop in ninja collection, was, imho, the best way to solve the issue without unlocking the scroll with him in.
Putting him in great plates was a bad move because compelled you in using coupons to get something that was supposed to be free (was not sure at all that with the 140 free rolls you managed to recruit him) while, at the same time, removed some other potential good things you could gain from it. The result was that one event the community really loved became only 'decent'.
It's the same exact thing that happened with shinobi feast. You removed the sure 100 coupons gained on the first roll and from being the best event for recharging for low cashers became a relatively bad recharging event for whales only.
That said, while may be true monthly event can't be changed I'm pretty sure the pack in the shop that grants monthly points for the event may be easy modified by oasis for the secondary rewards. I talk about them because literally none has ever bought one of those packs, if not blatantly by mistake, since 1.0 onwards.
Changing it to grant 10 mood scrolls + 2 fragments of kakashi shonen for 1 coupon, adding a limitation to max 40 packs purchasable in lifetime would have solved both the issue of the missing ninja and of the broken promise of the group wheel.
Why was not done something like this?
I wait your reply.
Once again, I'm only gonna reply this time. It's impossible for me to have a civil discourse without having ill merit replies that completely derail the conversation.
Mood Scrolls, as even a 2x in Great Plates has been something I've personally pushed before, hasn't happened.
Next core meeting, I'll do it again because frankly, that's something everyone wants.
And no, I will not answer the additional question you added because that's not for me say nor for people to misconstrue.
I've openly answered quite a lot, truthfully in this thread and already people twisted a few of my words.
And here's an example of that.
Let me illustrate,
"And of course, that's why there's a range of team that's suppose to provide different viewpoints of how players view spending on reports received."
I'm only typing in this thread ba
Each staff members focuses on their respective reports, we address and voice our suggestions, so-on.
You don't have to believe anything I'm saying, but I'll state the core obviously.
I see a lot on Discord and on the Forums, as I agree with some
But because I disagree with others, doesn't mean I'm not listening.
The staff (moderators) are Y'all. If they don't listen to the players, then our jobs are useless.
You're not the only voice of the community, there's a multitude of people who express different opinions, and thus allow us to have a dialog within the staff to best course release content. But that's not all. Oasis gets that and pushes upwards, and from there it's a hierarchy of issues with Tencent, and what their vision for certain updates, etc.
If you still refuse to see it in that aspect, then there's absolutely nothing I can help you with.
Anyway
Thank you.
tencent is not forcing you to not put things in group shop or other events.. this is OASIS not tencent... the licensee agreement is over the things used and not over the how are used.. this is standard license agreement across most browser games... pure example look at wartune vs divosaga, and before you start with "but are different bla bla bla" no... again those are standard license agreements, and as long tencent makes money out of it they dont give a f....
Unless oasis actually is tencent. Many times feels like they are not independent one from the other at all.
The Price is " Too Much " But if u can't do that rebate that means this rebate not for you . if you want to quit go ahead but most i see they will come back just to complaint / whine / play again .
Honestly speaking i don't understand why they do not reduce overtime the price of old features while adding new features. This make no sense from my point of view.
Example?
Why the battle armor panic buy event still is ingots only and why the discount for advanced threads still is only 40% when this feature is wholly outdated and totally unwroth the investment?
Personally speaking if they added coupons too in while making 1 thread cost 7 coupons/ingots (this is how is right now in china) i would actually think about recharging once 5k ingots while spending also 10k coupons to get rank 9 ba.
But they do not do it, so people like me do not invest a single cent there, nor whales do for the simple reason that not only the event is not worth it, but also the rebate rewards are horrible.
After 3and half months of playing , i would like to say a bit. ( BP 47k lvl 70 freezing, soon reach 50k by monday )
Firstly , i only play competitive games like dota and do it almost everyday . I used to play naruto arena way back and was searching for it . But it was closed and some how found this game 3 monts earlier.
First impression- it was really welcoming , and i do enjoy it a lot . After cross server started , it was a nightmare xD. No more seal scrolls in matsuri lol. and swb was gg. Even arena (not ranked) was a bit difficult @ start & ranked arena is not for new players i guess coz every time i find itachi ss or other nightmares. Fortunately , training grounds saved the day for the sun scrolls for me to farm adv refines . Player ba
This is the first ever browser game i played apart from naruto arena . Honestly, i had no idea that browser games were so * expensive.
1$ in my country is Rs 73. its like paying 70 times more. and madara ten tails 3000$=more than 2 lakhs which is nonsense.
Yet, i am not a f2p player . i do both monthly cards/month and i can afford to do 5000 ingots froggy/month. I want this game to not die as i see ppl telling and even the players leaving from servers speaks for itself.
About the community , its good ( SEA dota community is a nightmare ) , i find it okay since the mods & ppl are helpful and answer any question i pm them.
Well for the event managers or who ever is responsible for the events i dnt like them at all.
During that sasuke/sakura bug . i was one of the first to ask whether it was bug or intended. and it was replied it was intended .. After this information, many of our server's f2p were waiting to collect it in the week. (i got it both 5 stars that instant). And later it was removed. They even said to bring back,still waiting.
The sakura food event sudden price increase without notice was another flaw. I mean like seriously WTF. Before players i asked, got shisui & minato for less than 5k cps form here and now its gg.
Price for Madara tt, well i cant say much here since its my 1st browser game (i already find it * expensive , I think i may get Edo hashirama after 2years but never madara, and i am not upset as there are other good alternatives).
Well , its true you cant satisfy all kinds of gamers in Weekly events. I would suggest to increase the pages of reward per event and think about both f2p/p2p.
I dnt trust the game event managers any more after this experience , they dnt * to their words . False promises.
Edit: this is just my experience, Thank you.
Don't worry, you'll face something like that about once every 6/7 months.
I play since November 2016 and this is hm... The sixth time? We see something like that. Sometimes what happened was even way worse.
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