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I don't understand why people always bring up P2W and F2P. F2P should be thankful for P2W because they are the ones that keep the servers up and running because they pay. Without them, OASIS will not have income and won't be able to support the cost for server maintenance which will lead to the game shutting down. I'm just enjoying the game while I still can. Maybe the other salty F2Ps should do the same, just enjoy the game and don't expect to beat a paying player.
4nalogy: If you drive a car with stock engine, then don't expect to beat someone driving a car with custom engine and with nitro.
What players should know is that mods can only relay info from higher management. They have no say in the matter. Everything boils down to higher management. If you don't like what you see, then don't buy it, don't participate in the event.
4nalogy: If you don't like the food in the menu of the restaurant, do you go to the waiter and complain about it? No you don't. You ask the waiter to call the manager. Also, if you don't like what's in the menu, then don't buy it.
Freeloaders don't have the right to complain. Beggars can't be choosers.
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- Do I Care? 2 On 2018-11-03 06:42:54
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Because the F2Ps come along and say "this isn't fair, this only benefits the P2Ws and thus alienates 60-80% of the playerba
se" and the P2Ws say "shut up and stop being entitled, P2Ws keep the game alive". And then nobody can agree, and the playerba
se is disunified which means it's easier for the team to calm down all the hubbub.
The world has never been fair. It never will. So either they accept that fact and svck it up or just keep on complaining without giving possible solution that is beneficial to everyone. By everyone, I mean it includes OASIS and not just the players because this is a business. Business needs money. Money is the reason why they invested in this game. Put yourselves in OASIS shoes for once or maybe imagine that you have a business yourself, a store. You have a new item to introduce, would you sell it cheap when it's just newly released? Of course not. You will do everything to make as much money from it. Same thing that OASIS is doing here because there are people willing to purchase digital stuff.
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- Liez07 On 2018-11-03 06:46:39
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nah Daiske, the price has always been 10 coupons. Do you want me to send multple "PROOFS" from last year that the event has always been 10 coupons a pack? Feel free to let me know so I can prove that this "optimized" thing is an error on your end.
I'm not defending Daiske here (even if it looks like it). OASIS owns the rights for this game. They can price it with whatever they want. If you have a store, do you let the customers dictate the price of your products? Of course not. You price it yourself whether they like it or not. So what if it was 10 coupons before? They could always change the pricing because they own this game. You could always change the pricing because you own the store.
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- Fiyuri On 2018-11-03 07:31:41
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^ my buddy here seems to be a TAD SLOW....I can agree with P2W helping out paying the bills...but he seems to be unable to process the number of people that are F2P....us "freeloaders" are the ones allowing you to play the game at all lol. IF there were no F2P....you'd be sitting there with your clan...just you guys. That sounds so much fun! at least you wouldn't have to try right? Do you think there would be a reason for you to even PAY for ingame items to get stronger if it's just say...your clan of maybe 20people because of course you all want to be top ranked right...so you all join the strongest guild which happens to be the only one due to just P2W people left.
Oh how fun that would be! YES P2W pay the bills but without the F2P you have NO GAME. Competition? well would you really have to pay in a server of like 20 actives(p2w)?
DON'T kid yourself...I've come to find out that people that pull off the P2W on one server...end up trying it in many other NEW servers that come out like weekly. So even THEN there's maybe only a good 10% or so P2W....
So go ahead and keep paying the bills....that is NOT the problem. The problem is that there are others that have saved with time....perhaps during events and maybe even spent a few dollars here and there .... and now they have coupons but NOPE!
Oasis prefers you recharge. CMON a recharge event shouldn't go out and make people pay up over $400(to what I have been told....since I've stopped caring about recharge events).
My personal problem with all this is...WHY are there still recharge events that seem to cost more EVERY TIME THEY COME OUT?
DAISUKE! if you read this....hopefully you can pass this message along ^
Whether you lie to us or not...that's on you...but HOPEFULLY you can at least tell me "I have already passed this over" or something.
Where are the random NICE events for those F2P that have saved up?
Give them an event like this recharge event....if something is usually around 7k ingots/coupons...make it 9k ingots/coupons for an early grab~
but when i hear all this nonsense about "ingots only" like....do YOU realize....you have had the one WHEEL on the front...can't even remember the name of it atm.
You toss in a few ingots...and you get more of it in Coupons...
Yet you can't seem to at least convert coupons to ingot for events?
Like if something is normally 100ingots? can you not AT LEAST give it to us for 100-200coupons?
Like make some changes! do something! EVERYTIME there are events...you have things like this pop up....
Give the F2P some love and make it known to them...Like i think you should literally be like...
OK we made this a COUPON ONLY event. Knock yourselves out! Then toss in a minigame to exchange ingots to coupons...at a REASONABLE rate.
With hopefully....DECENT items...and not like a....well...you MAY randomly get ONE good prize....every 10000 tries! lol
Only good thing I've seen more recently...is that DAISUKE is at least talking.
Whether we have actually noticed any improvements...Make a Poll DAISUKE...
Though as far as I can see...we've yet to make sufficient improvements dont you think? :(
ALSO I did notice how you conveniently HAVE NOT removed the message about the one guy in almost ALL CAPS
insulting ALL OF US....for apparently...INSULTING YOU DAISUKE....
I know you may like having that one person OPENLY defending you...but yeah...I don't think that help the conversation at all and you
As the GREAT mod you are....should talk to the OBVIOUS ALT ACCOUNT, someone(hoping it's not your alt...) , made and then delete it.
Thanks buddy!
I'm part of the free loaders that don't complain and just thankful for the people that pay the server to keep it up so I can enjoy the game. I'm not part of the complaining kids who feel that they are important because that's what they tell themselves. If they have saved up some coupons, then it's up to them to spend it or not. If the event is not good, then why spend? Wait for a good event to spend it on. I have some coupons saved up as well and I'm not spending them because it's a bad event for me. I'm just waiting for a good event to spend them on. The problem with F2Ps is that they also want to get the new released stuff on the day/week it gets released without spending real life money/cash which is absurd lol. It's that simple.
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So what if this is a bad week? Then OASIS will see it from their data and would try to get back their loses next time. In the end, OASIS will still earn no matter how small, it's still an earning because there will still be people who will spend. F2Ps who saved up coupons will still wait for good events and P2W will spend when they see a good deal while others won't give a care in the world and will still spend this week.
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- Do I Care? 2 On 2018-11-03 11:33:37
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If they will still earn no matter how small, then in theory they *should* be able to be more generous.
This doesn't mean this will happen all the time obviously. But it should lead to more flexibility for change through F2P demands. Saying the P2Ws are the only player that matter is just plain bizarre, each P2W is built on a foundation of F2P.
Also, genuine question - do you guys remember a time when Oasis improved on themselves? I can't. I'm wondering if I missed something.
I would say there is one that I remember and that was when Fuku Deals and Lucky Stars were on the same event. This was when AGK was released with Edo Dei as the 80 frag jackpot in Lucky Stars and Edo Dei was also the max reward for Fuku Deals. This was the time when my friend got AGK and Edo Dei 4 stars in one event for 25K ingots.
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