I'm sorry, who's hating here?

I don't mind this being behind a paywall tbh, mainly because Idontcare will never ever get them anyways.

Alright buddy. Why do people always bring up the issue of F2P vs P2W? We're all players here.

But just because the P2W keep the game running doesn't mean they can be d0uchey to the F2Ps for wanting the game to be more generous and calling it "entitlement". I think it's more a concern of fairness regarding the rebates.

This is just a neutral person's perspective though.

Because the F2Ps come along and say "this isn't fair, this only benefits the P2Ws and thus alienates 60-80% of the playerbase" and the P2Ws say "shut up and stop being entitled, P2Ws keep the game alive".

And then nobody can agree, and the playerbase is disunified which means it's easier for the team to calm down all the hubbub.

The world has never been fair and it never will. But that doesn't mean people will stop trying to make it more fair, does it? What's wrong with trying to make the world a bit of a better place even if it'll never be perfect? If Oasis always goes to the route that benefits themselves the most, it's only natural for people to complain.

Of course a business needs money. But we have... like, what, 1000 servers here? Each server has, let's say, 10-20 big whale spenders who dump money into the game every week. That's 10-20,000 people who spend thousands of dollars on this game – it's already a * ton of money. From the perspective of someone on the bottom, who just plain can't see it from Oasis's perspective because we don't know how much it costs to maintain these things and buy the content from Tencent (and we'll probably never know, cause what kind of company releases that info?), people have to wonder where all that money is going and why it isn't enough for them.

Of course, I could be very wrong about this. This is just stup1d ol' Doicare trying to explore the mind of a complainer.

If they will still earn no matter how small, then in theory they *should* be able to be more generous.

This doesn't mean this will happen all the time obviously. But it should lead to more flexibility for change through F2P demands. Saying the P2Ws are the only player that matter is just plain bizarre, each P2W is built on a foundation of F2P.

Also, genuine question - do you guys remember a time when Oasis improved on themselves? I can't. I'm wondering if I missed something.

Alrighty boyo. I get what you're saying. Daiske may be a lot of things, but he doesn't exactly deserve all of the unrestrained hate. If people wanna complain they might as well do it logically.

Now I might be neutral on the Hana issue, but transparency is a no no. I'm going to have to dispute you on that one, boyo.

First of all. What's made you defend Daiske so much. I'm curious to see what he's done that has won him your favor. What kind of godly thing did he do for you to worship him and make him "yo boi", eh?

Secondly, the statement of "how can you say he lacks transparency when all he does is reply with logical statements that nobody wants to accept" really fires me up. Let's look at some of his statements.

There was, nor is, any need to fix this event. There is no error or problem that would require our attention or emergency maintenance. It was planned to release this clothing in recharge event.

While we understand it may be a bit disappointing to some players, it does not mean it is completely unavailable to free to play players. For its release week, this specific clothing is limited only to recharge (paying players) event but it doesn't mean it cannot appear in redeemable event in the future. We will take your feedback of this change into consideration for future releases.

What I, as a player, value in transparency is reasoning. I don't mind decisions that don't benefit me or make me mad – as long as they have a logical reasoning that I can understand and get behind.

There's just an explanation here. No "why". This isn't transparency. If there was transparency, people would've been calmed down.

As I stated before, just because it is in recharge event does not mean it can't appear in other events as redeemable item in the future.

Same here. No reason why. No concrete details, you just kind of have to "hope". That doesn't distill player fears at all.

In previous Sakura event, food sacks were supposed to cost 20 coupons/ingots from the begging. Due to error in system, system did not update the new price. For now, its price (20 ingots/coupons) should stay same.

This is at least a decent reason "why", but it does not address the problem. In the previous Sakura events, it cost 10. But they decided not to change their plans and allocate for this error in the system for some reason. Why can't they just change their plans? I don't know, because Daiske didn't explain it. That's not transparency.

Not to mention, here's another thing Daiske told me a while back regarding schedule releases.

I do not play FGO but I really doubt they release their whole schedule with all details. They might announce that some new changes, features or characters are coming in next few weeks. We sadly can't do that.

Again, no reason why not. Releasing details in advance actually helps a lot in hyping stuff up, but I guess... they can't do that for some reason?

Now I get that Oasis is inclined to keep a lot of its info to itself. They won't give out everything, no poo poo, dippoo poo. But the least they can do is share just a few more details with us so we feel like they actually care. I'm going to quote Dosu and the Dosu case again here as an example to show the kind of "transparency" we have. Somebody who wasn't Dosu suggested to add Dosu as playable, and every 9 or so months Dosu starts feeling like the suggestion is being ignored and posts some big thread about why Dosu should be added into the game as a reminder to the team. His last paper was about transparency, and how they should at least give updates for their CS suggestions to show that they're actually getting somewhere. And Tobei (I think?) provided a great and detailed answer, and said "yeah we have so many requests that it'd be impossible for us to check up on each and every one of them". After a year and a half of poor transparency, Dosu finally got what I would call genuine transparency. There's an understandable reason behind it, and that's fine. Since then it's gotten a little better, as mods have started openly acknowledging Dosu's other posts. But it isn't optimal. More explanations like Tobei's would be better.

Peace out, yo.

-Doicare

The lad he deleted got rather... salty to say the least.

First of all, the entire point of me sending you that PM was so we wouldn't spread our toxicity all over this thread. "But I'm not toxic, just drunk" you say. Yeah, yeah, Dumbledore had a headache and that's why he swore. It's still toxicity.

Second of all, let me re-iterate this to you. The reason I type so much is so I can be clear and – hey, guess what? – TRANSPARENT with you. I'm trying to help you understand what I'm saying. But I guess that didn't work because you completely misunderstood what I was saying. If you can, if this buggy PM system works for you, re-read what I said and see if you can understand what I'm trying to say, or if I need to write another "20 page essay" on what I mean.

It's a complex issue. It won't be solved by just one sentence.

Thirdly, I thought I outlined that though I feel like Daiske DOES deserve some hate, the amount of hate he gets in this forum can occasionally be overboard. Which I guess you didn't read. Oh well.

Peace out,

-Doicare