Lets talk about edo hiruzen, since he falls into the same category: someone higher power than you 1shots you. Thats understandable. But when during bonds people with 15-20% less battle power (me- 2x 180k vs 2x150k) pretty much wipes the field clean, there is an issue. Same thing applies to kakuzu post skillbooks. People without him start losing, what my hiruzen example says, thats all.

The difference is kakuzu right now is unplayable (unless you are so stacked you can 1shot with konohamaru corps, ergo doesnt matter what lineup you actually use). AGK example is a bad one. On my server half of the top ranking people have angel konan, some of them kakuzu and kakuzu is NEVER used in competitive team, because right now hes bad. Maybe not danzo izanagi level bad, but propably 1 tier above him. He needs those buffs, but not buffs like making his total dmg 2x higher on top of other buffs. Every skillbook except chakra passive adds something:

- mystery- 10% more nin buff, but you still need to actually kill something OR spammable interrupt with low dmg when at 50+ chakra // 1st requires thinking to make him scale while second good timing with interrupts. Mystery on its own doesnt deal that much damage.
- standard- you hit 4 people, thats actually 33% dmg increase. // cool, because right now he doesnt deal much dmg.
-1 passive- you hit 4 people and ignite them (again, 33% dmg increase because of 1 more target + ignite) OR 3 people hit + paralysis // sasuke got same buffs, did hitting 1 more person make him op? No.

-2passive- +1 auto to akatsuki on top of current heal + debuff clear //finally supportive part of kakuzu that does something better than regular healer.

-3passive- +2% att/nin and 5% def for each chakra over 50 (100att/100nin/250def buff in total at 100 chakra) OR revive. // hint, nobody is using revive because dmg part is broken.

Kakuzu with books vs kakuzu without books:

As you can see, 3rd passive is where things get ugly, since he gets twice as much damage (stacked with changes to standard and chase that actually means dealing 266% more damage than current EGF kakuzu does). Together with x2 auto passive, suddenly CN kakuzu with standard attacks just dealt 532% more damage than kakuzu without books. Then comes chase, which deals 266% more damage than current one. In total, CN kakuzu dealt over 5x more damage with autos and 2.5x more dmg with chase than regular one. This is why he is broken, and thats only because of 3rd passive scaling. On top of those over the top damage buffs, he has 250% buff to defense...

to sum it up:

2x auto damage= 2*133*2=532% vs 100

chase damage= 133*2=266% vs 100

Kakuzu without 3rd passive vs kakuzu without books at all:

2x auto= 2x133=266% vs 100%

chase= 133% vs 100%

Personally, whatever happens to him I want #2 passive to be allowed to upgrade. Additional standard on akatsuki ninjas is something this ninja really needs and might allow some akatsuki teams to be at least playable for fun.

Lets talk about edo hiruzen, since he falls into the same category: someone higher power than you 1shots you. Thats understandable. But when during bonds people with 15-20% less battle power (me- 2x 180k vs 2x150k) pretty much wipes the field clean, there is an issue. Same thing applies to kakuzu post skillbooks. People without him start losing, what my hiruzen example says, thats all.

The difference is kakuzu right now is unplayable (unless you are so stacked you can 1shot with konohamaru corps, ergo doesnt matter what lineup you actually use). AGK example is a bad one. On my server half of the top ranking people have angel konan, some of them kakuzu and kakuzu is NEVER used in competitive team, because right now hes bad. Maybe not danzo izanagi level bad, but propably 1 tier above him. He needs those buffs, but not buffs like making his total dmg 2x higher on top of other buffs. Every skillbook except chakra passive adds something:

- mystery- 10% more nin buff, but you still need to actually kill something OR spammable interrupt with low dmg when at 50+ chakra // 1st requires thinking to make him scale while second good timing with interrupts. Mystery on its own doesnt deal that much damage.
- standard- you hit 4 people, thats actually 33% dmg increase. // cool, because right now he doesnt deal much dmg.
-1 passive- you hit 4 people and ignite them (again, 33% dmg increase because of 1 more target + ignite) OR 3 people hit + paralysis // sasuke got same buffs, did hitting 1 more person make him op? No.

-2passive- +1 auto to akatsuki on top of current heal + debuff clear //finally supportive part of kakuzu that does something better than regular healer.

-3passive- +2% att/nin and 5% def for each chakra over 50 (100att/100nin/250def buff in total at 100 chakra) OR revive. // hint, nobody is using revive because dmg part is broken.

Kakuzu with books vs kakuzu without books:

As you can see, 3rd passive is where things get ugly, since he gets twice as much damage (stacked with changes to standard and chase that actually means dealing 266% more damage than current EGF kakuzu does). Together with x2 auto passive, suddenly CN kakuzu with standard attacks just dealt 532% more damage than kakuzu without books. Then comes chase, which deals 266% more damage than current one. In total, CN kakuzu dealt over 5x more damage with autos and 2.5x more dmg with chase than regular one. This is why he is broken, and thats only because of 3rd passive scaling. On top of those over the top damage buffs, he has 250% buff to defense...

to sum it up:

2x auto damage= 2*133*2=532% vs 100

chase damage= 133*2=266% vs 100

Kakuzu without 3rd passive vs kakuzu without books at all:

2x auto= 2x133=266% vs 100%

chase= 133% vs 100%

Personally, whatever happens to him I want #2 passive to be allowed to upgrade. Additional standard on akatsuki ninjas is something this ninja really needs and might allow some akatsuki teams to be at least playable for fun.

^Agree with above comment.

Also he removed all equipment from his main.So, clearly a biased and useless video.

you guys are forgetting sb AY...XD he is Good as well

His own video 200 seal edo yagura wins so called game breaking Ay with 44k less power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoqpGsXo3ug

His own video 200 seal edo yagura wins so called game breaking Ay with 44k less power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoqpGsXo3ug

ignorance fools.

u jjust want to get that broken sb ninja

will it work against SB Grudge? uff they ate that AY

You just jealous and don't want people to have good ninjas they spent thousands of dollars for. This mentality is why spenders leaving this game. They pour in thousands of dollars in to this game and all they get is:neft that thousands of dollar worth ninja, don't let them get a skill break,insults, f2p deserve same items as people who spent thousands of dollars(sometimes each month).When spenders,a leave no one to pay for servers,developers and support=closed game. Not every spender leave quietly some of them do some stuff that decrease the profit margin for oasis cough that German super whale drama happened in Germany about 6 months ago cough .

Also game breaking Ay getting destroyed by 200 seal scrolled edo yagura according to his own video ,there are many counters ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoqpGsXo3ug

But please explain me how removing equipment from your main is not biased, every teams needs some form of support from the main character....heal,buff,shield etc and let's not mention summon....so when he removes everything from main it is biased.

Also same power doesn't mean anything, I have seen stacked pos 1 kimimaro and non stacked earth main with 110k power beating susano itachi,susano sasuke teams. Pos 1 and pos 2 power matters more than ninja. Ask UK players about Rizi vs StonneMc.

If they implement same skill break /experiment system most f2p will be able to get them after saving 20k-30k coupons max.Compared to current good skill breaks costing the price of a car.

Kakuzu counter ,his own video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SHDk6kZd1w

ignorance fools.

u jjust want to get that broken sb ninja

^Agree with above comment.

Also he removed all equipment from his main.So, clearly a biased and useless video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dYh3blMvOc take a look at this, then again he tries to avoid flamers claiming it's on arena.

You just jealous and don't want people to have good ninjas they spent thousands of dollars for. This mentality is why spenders leaving this game. They pour in thousands of dollars in to this game and all they get is:neft that thousands of dollar worth ninja, don't let them get a skill break,insults, f2p deserve same items as people who spent thousands of dollars(sometimes each month).When spenders,a leave no one to pay for servers,developers and support=closed game. Not every spender leave quietly some of them do some stuff that decrease the profit margin for oasis cough that German super whale drama happened in Germany about 6 months ago cough .

Also game breaking Ay getting destroyed by 200 seal scrolled edo yagura according to his own video ,there are many counters ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoqpGsXo3ug

But please explain me how removing equipment from your main is not biased, every teams needs some form of support from the main character....heal,buff,shield etc and let's not mention summon....so when he removes everything from main it is biased.

Also same power doesn't mean anything, I have seen stacked pos 1 kimimaro and non stacked earth main with 110k power beating susano itachi,susano sasuke teams. Pos 1 and pos 2 power matters more than ninja. Ask UK players about Rizi vs StonneMc.

If they implement same skill break /experiment system most f2p will be able to get them after saving 20k-30k coupons max.Compared to current good skill breaks costing the price of a car.

He is op in china because they have something here we won't ever get (thanks to god): % tactics. That unbalance so much the game towards attacking stats that the boosts to atk/nin he selfgrants become overpowered.

Remove that thing and you get a very good ninja but not a real issue you can't deal with in any way.

The buff to defense is good, indeed, but is relatively useless because 90% of the damage right now is dealt by nin or half nin half tai attacks.

Kakuzu with breaktroughs, in general, has the same exact issues edo hiruzen owns: can be controlled and his standard attack and chase may mostly be wasted on clones/summons.

A faster move 1 water main, for example, will always be able to counter any teams made with currently available ninjas and him in it.

i need EDO YAGURA NOW!!!!