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Hidan[Death Possesion Blood] GNW-OP???

I don't know why i write this but i just want to kill my time doing nothing since i talk to my friend in game S1-Naruto (ini. JH) and talk to me about HIDAN[DPB] about how Hidan can be OP in GNW he give me his calculation but i do my own calculation too... and this is what I get from it;

Note:(i don't have all the ninja so i can't be so sure if its OK or not but if you have with your friends try it to KAKASHI-sensei XD)

Hidan-Death-Possesion-Blood

Hidan [Death Possesion Blood]

Attribute: Fire

Special Abilities: [Tag] [Resurrection after 2 rounds]

Chase Effect: None

Chase Trigger: [10 COMBO]

Number of Chases: 1 Chase

3 Midnight Blade Team(Lightning Main)

Formation Screenshot(2)

Your Team should have Asuma[Edo Tensei], Guy[Normal], and Hidan[Death Possesion Blood]

*X AsumaET Midnight

*X *X *X

*X HidanDPB Guy

Tactics: Ghost Skill(for Hidan[DPB] Attack Boost)

Skills:

Mystery - Lightning Sealing Slash

Standard - Beam of Light

Chase - Moon Cutting Flash

Passive - Warrior's Killing Intent

- Root of Warrior

Mystery Summon: Giant Katsuyu (your choice; it's my choice)

Chase Summon: Fukurokumaru

Treasure: all BLADEs XD (if you just want)

Note: Your Main, Asuma and Hidan is Sword type Ninja

*Your Main Mystery should interrupt Mysteries, the Killing Intent buffs 3 sword-user ATK by 40% + 0 CD if mystery kills a unit, and Root Warrior gives 3 sword-user 100% RES and immune to debuffs for 2 rounds, and

Asuma[Edo tensei] Pose of Invinsibility buffs ATK&NIN by 30% if you have full health, while

Guy Hot Blooded Guidance buffs ATK by 30% + 15% Heal base on Damage, and

Hidan[DPB] do the killing with 3 ninja that are tag that can increases his damage...(if the opponent ninja died even 1, your mystery CD reset to 0)

Assume this line-up gives you a 100% ATK Buffs + 100% Resistance + 0 CD Mystery/Kill + immunity to debuffs for 2 rounds (immobile of earth/blind of wind/chaos&poison of water/ignite of fire)

The 2nd and the 3rd Lightning Main Team should use the 1st passive: Anbu Special Assault Tactics that buffs the entire field that give ATK 25% + 25% Heal base on Damage with this (2) Midnight Blade buffs ATK 50% + 50% Heal base on Damage

use mystery summon: Pakkun if you want to go for all TAG XD but that is not necessary since his mystery can only target 3 tags; konan and shisui of the other team c*so put tags .

also the 2 Teams should have this following ninjas for the boost:

Shisui Uchiha genjutsu barrier-Radiance buffs fire, lightning, & wind ATK&NIN by 40%,

(be sure to interrupt all opponents ninjas that will cast BARRIERS and put shisui last so that he will be the last who cast passive barrier or the buffs he will do will be cancel),

Mifune kendo instruction that buffs 9 sword-user ATK by 30% for 5 rounds,

Konan(Normal) angel of god buffs 40% base RES shield to 9 Akatsuki + ATK&NIN 30%,

(Not the Konan[AngelofGod] because its only buffs 20% of ATK&NIN of all akatsuki) also

Tobirama[Second Hokage] inheritor of the will of fire that buffs all unit in the field ATK 30% for 5 rounds, last is

Hiruzen[Edo Tensei] five style ninja enhancement that buffs only 9 units ATK&NIN 40% (be sure that out of 12 ninjas in formation hidan should get the buffs)

(also take note that it said "ONLY" the Main Charcter Style Jutsu Enchancement cannot stack that means Assault Tactics and Killing Intent can stack since its not jutsu enhancement)


This will give a TOTAL of ATK buffs by 350%, NIN buffs by 110%, LEECH of 65% + 100% Resistance + 0 CD Mystery/Kill +

immunity to debuffs for 2 rounds + 40% RES base shield for Hidan[Death Possesion Blood]

so lets assume that Hidan[DPB] can damage 10k since it was buffed it will do up to 35k+ DAMAGE and

Hidan get also 50%(18K) damage from his damage but because of the 65% Heal base on damage(20k Heal)

you can assume that hidan never receive damage.


Other buffed {+ 40% if hiruzen boosted too(only 9 units)}

your Midnight Blade ATK 250%(290%), NIN 40%(80%) + LEECH of 65% + 100% Resistance + 0 CD Mystery/Kill + immunity to debuffs for 2 rounds

Asuma ATK 250%(290%), NIN 40%(80%) + LEECH of 65% + 100% Resistance + 0 CD Mystery/Kill + immunity to debuffs for 2 rounds

Guy ATK 180%(220%), NIN 40%(80%) + LEECH of 65%

other Midnight Blade ATK 150%(190%), NIN 40%(80%) + LEECH of 65%

Shisui ATK 150%(190%), NIN 40%(80%) + LEECH of 65%

Mifune ATK 150%(190%), NIN 40%(80%) + LEECH of 65%

Konan ATK 150%(190%), NIN 70%(110%) + LEECH of 65% + 40% shield RES base(NOT SWORD TYPE)

Tobirama ATK 120%(160%), NIN 0%(40%) + LEECH of 65%(NOT SWORD TYPE and WATER ATTR)

Hiruzen ATK 120%(160%), NIN 40%(80%) + LEECH of 65%(NOT SWORD TYPE)

the other one is depend on you....

i suggest you choose Fu Yamanaka for his foundation guardian that can give 30% RES base shield to 9 fire and lightning type ninja also fu is a sword type ninja + his puppet can do chaos...

so that's it guys!

correct me if I'm wrong but this is base on my own Calculation :)

hope it can help you guys ;)

*if you ever try this formation tell me if it works or not thanks XD XD XD

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On 2018-10-21 22:01:31Show this Author Only
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Hiruzen's buff doesn't stack with Warrior's Killing Intent. And Mifune doesn't stack with not skillbroken Hashirama/Tobirama. Other than that, good idea ;)

Edit: And Guy won't stack with Konan (ATK buff).




This post was last edited by żółw on 2018-10-21 22:46:24.
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On 2018-10-21 22:48:54Show this Author Only
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hidan' used to be a very good gnw ninja but he's really lost popularity.


the main problem with hidan nowadays are ninjas that remove buffs and shields. kushina, shisui and madara are common in gnw now. they can easily remove your buffs and control your hidan.


the other problem is that a chaosed hidan still does massive damage...to your own team.and if you don't have a way to clear that chaos, you're going to be the dead ones instead.




This post was last edited by Kuebiko on 2018-10-21 22:49:14.
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On 2018-10-21 23:44:47Show this Author Only
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  • Kuebiko On 2018-10-21 22:48:54
  • hidan' used to be a very good gnw ninja but he's really lost popularity.


    the main problem with hidan nowadays are ninjas that remove buffs and shields. kushina, shisui and madara are common in gnw now. they can easily remove your buffs and control your hidan.


    the other problem is that a chaosed hidan still does massive damage...to your own team.and if you don't have a way to clear that chaos, you're going to be the dead ones instead.

He lost his popularity not because of how easy it is to take away his buffs/control him. He lost his popularity because 99% of ninjas dodge or are immune, so he cant hit anything.

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On 2018-10-21 23:46:03Show this Author Only
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this is nice but i think all the ninja here is hard to get as a F2P players only konan and guys is the one that can easily farm...

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On 2018-10-22 11:29:47Show this Author Only
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  • żółw On 2018-10-21 22:01:31
  • Hiruzen's buff doesn't stack with Warrior's Killing Intent. And Mifune doesn't stack with not skillbroken Hashirama/Tobirama. Other than that, good idea ;)

    Edit: And Guy won't stack with Konan (ATK buff).

how come that Hiruzen's buff doesn't stack with Warrior's Killing Intent if this skill is not a jutsu enhancement

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Lightning Style Enhancement - Increases Ninjutsu and Attack by 40% up to 3 Lightning attribute units from your Lineup, lasts for 5 rounds.(this is the passive that is not stack-able)

I didn't mention that Mifune's buff can stack in Tobirama i included their that Tobirama is not a sword type user that's why i didn't added up his buff!

and also i just didn't included Guy or Asuma buffs to others because guy and asuma buffs is for group only + i included Guy's buff the lifesteal because konan can still lifesteal cause her standard is taijutsu :)

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On 2018-10-22 11:35:44Show this Author Only
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  • Kuebiko On 2018-10-21 22:48:54
  • hidan' used to be a very good gnw ninja but he's really lost popularity.


    the main problem with hidan nowadays are ninjas that remove buffs and shields. kushina, shisui and madara are common in gnw now. they can easily remove your buffs and control your hidan.


    the other problem is that a chaosed hidan still does massive damage...to your own team.and if you don't have a way to clear that chaos, you're going to be the dead ones instead.

to think of it i included that Hidan[DPB] will have immunity because of your main;

Root of Warrior - At the beginning of a battle, up to 3 Sword User attribute units from your Lineup will be Immune to Debuffs and will have their Resistance increases by 100%, lasts for 2 rounds.

that is why i said that

"It will give a TOTAL of ATK buffs by 350%, NIN buffs by 110%, LEECH of 65% + 100% Resistance + 0 CD Mystery/Kill +

immunity to debuffs for 2 rounds + 40% shield RES base for Hidan[Death Possesion Blood]

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On 2018-10-22 11:40:02Show this Author Only
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  • Zathroth On 2018-10-21 23:44:47
  • He lost his popularity not because of how easy it is to take away his buffs/control him. He lost his popularity because 99% of ninjas dodge or are immune, so he cant hit anything.

Hidan can't be control or what so ever in 2 rounds by its immunity so that all your opponent ninjas dodge or some immune since you have shisui in the group + if all your main MB mystery will be interrupt you can control the game flow :)

just be sure you don't do auto ;)

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On 2018-10-22 11:44:21Show this Author Only
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  • 0mayuminakamura On 2018-10-21 23:46:03
  • this is nice but i think all the ninja here is hard to get as a F2P players only konan and guys is the one that can easily farm...

I know that all ninjas I included here is hard to get if your new or if you're a FREE2PLAY player, cause even me I'm a F2P player... i just write it out of curiosity if it really can give super buffs to Hidan... that is why i included there to try it and tell me if it's good or not... if I'm correct or not...

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On 2018-10-22 11:47:17Show this Author Only
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Note: I don't have all the ninja so i can't be so sure if its OK or not but if you have with your friends try it to KAKASHI-sensei XD

then could you please tell me if all buffs is effective to HIDAN :)

thanks :)



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  • ┼KuramaYouko┼ On 2018-10-22 11:35:44
  • to think of it i included that Hidan[DPB] will have immunity because of your main;

    Root of Warrior - At the beginning of a battle, up to 3 Sword User attribute units from your Lineup will be Immune to Debuffs and will have their Resistance increases by 100%, lasts for 2 rounds.

    that is why i said that

    "It will give a TOTAL of ATK buffs by 350%, NIN buffs by 110%, LEECH of 65% + 100% Resistance + 0 CD Mystery/Kill +

    immunity to debuffs for 2 rounds + 40% shield RES base for Hidan[Death Possesion Blood]

Then hello to shisui (everywhere), han(f2p) or masked man(shisui users also got him) , even worst madara 5 kage(almost everywhere, since last sakura event cost below 10k). Even you calculate using maths it will become useless with these ninjas.

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On 2018-10-22 12:58:45Show this Author Only
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Something you don't seem to realise, is Hidan DPB's mystery does very, very little damage. It is primarily a tool of his to spread tag and start Hit Combo's. Boosting it by even 500%, especially in a Position 4, will do next to nothing for it.

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On 2018-10-22 14:18:40Show this Author Only
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  • ┼KuramaYouko┼ On 2018-10-22 11:35:44
  • to think of it i included that Hidan[DPB] will have immunity because of your main;

    Root of Warrior - At the beginning of a battle, up to 3 Sword User attribute units from your Lineup will be Immune to Debuffs and will have their Resistance increases by 100%, lasts for 2 rounds.

    that is why i said that

    "It will give a TOTAL of ATK buffs by 350%, NIN buffs by 110%, LEECH of 65% + 100% Resistance + 0 CD Mystery/Kill +

    immunity to debuffs for 2 rounds + 40% shield RES base for Hidan[Death Possesion Blood]

newsflash: temporary immunity is a buff. ninjas that remove buffs (kushina, han, madakage, etc ninjas that i listed in my first post) will remove your immunity buff and all your other buffs and shields.




This post was last edited by Kuebiko on 2018-10-22 14:36:06.
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  • Zathroth On 2018-10-21 23:44:47
  • He lost his popularity not because of how easy it is to take away his buffs/control him. He lost his popularity because 99% of ninjas dodge or are immune, so he cant hit anything.

welp yea i overlooked that too




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  • ┼KuramaYouko┼ On 2018-10-22 11:29:47
  • how come that Hiruzen's buff doesn't stack with Warrior's Killing Intent if this skill is not a jutsu enhancement

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    Lightning Style Enhancement - Increases Ninjutsu and Attack by 40% up to 3 Lightning attribute units from your Lineup, lasts for 5 rounds.(this is the passive that is not stack-able)

    I didn't mention that Mifune's buff can stack in Tobirama i included their that Tobirama is not a sword type user that's why i didn't added up his buff!

    and also i just didn't included Guy or Asuma buffs to others because guy and asuma buffs is for group only + i included Guy's buff the lifesteal because konan can still lifesteal cause her standard is taijutsu :)

Hiruzen doesn't stack with any 5 round main buffs unfortunately, not just "x style jutsu enhancement". It used to stack with Red Lotus Secret when it was 3 round buff, but it doesn't anymore.

Hiruzen's +ATK/NIN buff only stacks with (from main buffs): Ninjutsu Urge, Anbu Special Tactics, Pose of Duel and self-buffs.

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On 2018-10-23 17:11:19Show this Author Only
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thanks for all the responses and all the knowledge in game that you share to me i will note that all :)

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On 2018-10-24 18:38:13Show this Author Only
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  • ┼KuramaYouko┼ On 2018-10-22 11:29:47
  • how come that Hiruzen's buff doesn't stack with Warrior's Killing Intent if this skill is not a jutsu enhancement

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    Lightning Style Enhancement - Increases Ninjutsu and Attack by 40% up to 3 Lightning attribute units from your Lineup, lasts for 5 rounds.(this is the passive that is not stack-able)

    I didn't mention that Mifune's buff can stack in Tobirama i included their that Tobirama is not a sword type user that's why i didn't added up his buff!

    and also i just didn't included Guy or Asuma buffs to others because guy and asuma buffs is for group only + i included Guy's buff the lifesteal because konan can still lifesteal cause her standard is taijutsu :)

If you have both you get +40% atk, +40% nin and if your swordbearer kill something his mystery cd is reset. Just doesn't stack the +40% atk increase granted by the two buffs

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On 2018-10-25 13:17:29Show this Author Only
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Check out ICE* guides on stackable and none stackable buffs, with the general trend of same round length buffs will not stack there similar portion, the unique aspects will though. I.e shields and leech with iruka and guy. Also a more effective but p2w setup would be 3 po1 edo hiruzens, with each having either edo asuma or wb asuma, an edo sasori, an edo Tobirama with bond link, a breakthrough hashirama, and 3 mains of choose, with fire mains or earth mains being generally good choices. This leads to 40% from barrier, 40% from hiruzen, 45% nin from 3 firemain, 30% from the asumas, 30%nin from the hashirama, 30% from sasori, leading to a buff of 215% nin and 140% attack on three edo hiruzen. Now where this has advantage is that unless the enemy has an interrupt ninja at po1 thats faster than you, all 3 Hiruzens c*e there mystery first thing thus very limiting counter options, with the added benefit that if no 5k madara or kisame are on the field, or just a really fast po2, the sasori can give double attacks too the 8 edo units and 1 additional. Another option is to use hokage minato instead of hashirama for 30% less nin but a 40% increase in resitance. Its not a flawless setup, but it will rough up your enemies quite well in most cases and harder to shutdown th*ot of other setups, since again the only way to stop it is to both have a faster po1 and also sacrifice that spot with something like 5 k madara.

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